View Full Version : FDA considers more behind-the-counter sales


Ashnbri
10-04-2007, 01:46 PM
What do you think of this? Do you think it is a good idea?


WASHINGTON - A change may be brewing for U.S. drugstores: The government is mulling more "behind-the-counter" sales, to let patients buy certain medicines directly from pharmacists without a doctor's prescription.

The Food and Drug Administration announced Wednesday that it was seeking public reaction to such a switch, including whether it would ease access for the uninsured.

"This is an issue that has been raised by pharmacists, by manufacturers, by patients," said Ilisa Bernstein, FDA's director of pharmacy affairs.

Today, most U.S. drugs either require a prescription or are sold in a traditional over-the-counter method — no prescription required, just grab a bottle and head for the cashier.

Finding a middle ground
"Behind-the-counter" sales offer a middle ground. Last year, the FDA allowed the emergency contraceptive Plan B, also called the morning-after pill, to be sold without a doctor's note to women 18 and older — but only by pharmacies that checked women's photo identification before handing over the pills. Minors still require a prescription.

Now the question is whether requiring additional interaction with a trained pharmacist — health advice or even, say, a blood pressure or cholesterol check — might further spur the evolution of nonprescription drugs from quick symptom relief to more complex therapy.

Routine birth control pills are an often-cited candidate. And in 2005, the FDA rejected a bid to sell cholesterol-lowering Mevacor without a prescription — although some of the agency's scientific advisers said such a move might one day be possible if pharmacists could help guide which customers bought the pills.

Indeed, Britain allows the anti-cholesterol drug Zocor to be sold behind the counter.

Variations of behind-the-counter sales also are allowed in Australia, Canada, France, Denmark, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Sweden and Switzerland, the FDA said.

On Nov. 14, FDA will hold a meeting in Washington to solicit input from patients, pharmacists, doctors — in short, anyone interested — on whether it's time for such a switch here. FDA also will accept written comments through Nov. 28.

The agency doesn't have any petitions to switch specific drugs, said FDA's Bernstein. Nor would she list potential candidates.

"The purpose is just to gather information and find out more about how behind-the-counter availability of drugs can improve patient access to certain medications that would be helpful," she said.

The National Association of Chain Drug Stores welcomed the FDA discussion, saying it was open to behind-the-counter sales, depending on what would be required of pharmacists.

FDA acknowledged that drugstores would face logistical issues, such as how to stock behind-the-counter drugs. Also, while advising customers about safe drug use already is part of a pharmacist's job, another question is whether behind-the-counter sales would increase that workload enough to raise reimbursement issues.

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harrisonsdream
10-04-2007, 01:47 PM
i think it's opening an entire can of worms

Mak327
10-04-2007, 01:57 PM
Depends what they are putting there. For example, that's what they do with Sudafed now (at least around here) because of people using it to make meth. I take Sudafed almost every day and have since I was about 10 years old. So, to have to go to a pharmacy and ask the pharmacist and show my driver's license and all that is a bit of a PITA to be honest. I usually would run down to the store last minute to get my sudafed when I realized I was out. Didn't have to be a pharmacy even. Now, I have to go to a Pharmacy and have to go during pharmacy hours. Just a PITA. So.. depends what they are talking about putting back there. IF it is currently prescription drugs being non-prescription, I'm all for it. If it is currently OTC stuff being put behind the counter, I don't know.

Ashnbri
10-04-2007, 02:01 PM
They are talking about stuff that you would usually need a prescription for..like birth control pills, cholesterol pills..etc. They think it will be easier on people who are uninsured.

ash
10-04-2007, 02:01 PM
I think it is great.

A lot of thought and care will need to go into a decision of what to sell in that manner but I am all for better access to medications.

I whole heartedly support the sale of the morning after pill "behind the counter" and am glad they can do that.

harrisonsdream
10-04-2007, 02:01 PM
i think it's not a good idea because you will have people abusing the drugs, using them to make other forms of drugs (meth for example) kwim?

Saigon
10-04-2007, 02:09 PM
I think it could be a great thing. Or a huge mistake. Depending on the medication. An antibiotic, could be beneficial, a heart medication..not so much. Just depends on the training of the pharmacist. I would think they would need to regularly take classes after this.

Pebbles
10-04-2007, 02:11 PM
Does it mean that the chances of people self diagnosing will happen?

Kat
10-04-2007, 02:11 PM
I think it could be a great thing. Or a huge mistake. Depending on the medication. An antibiotic, could be beneficial, a heart medication..not so much. Just depends on the training of the pharmacist. I would think they would need to regularly take classes after this.

Thats how I feel.

USCGBoxerMom
10-04-2007, 02:36 PM
It's either going to be great or a great big PITA. Going to depend on what they are going to put behind the counter. If they do anitbiotics and the like then people will probably self diagnois.

I hate going through the hassle now of trying to get Sudafed type products, the DL, the SSN, the signing, ringing up ONLY at the pharmacy...but I understand the reasoning.

peatys girl
10-04-2007, 07:13 PM
I don't use a mil pharmacy. I'm wondering if I would have to pay full price now that a script wasn't needed. Motrin 800 mg is crazy expensive w/o insurance. :thinking

Wicked
10-04-2007, 07:24 PM
Does it mean that the chances of people self diagnosing will happen?

The internet caused more self diagnosis than anything else. :dunno

i think it's not a good idea because you will have people abusing the drugs, using them to make other forms of drugs (meth for example) kwim?

It depends on the drugs they are offering. I doubt anyone is going to be making meth out of birth control pills. It's a little impossible considering what meth is. LOL.

I am all for low dose birth control pills over the counter or behind the counter. As for cholesterol or heart medicine, it depends on what is in the medication and how long it's been on the market and how extensively it's been tested.

harrisonsdream
10-04-2007, 10:06 PM
The internet caused more self diagnosis than anything else. :dunno



It depends on the drugs they are offering. I doubt anyone is going to be making meth out of birth control pills. It's a little impossible considering what meth is. LOL.

I am all for low dose birth control pills over the counter or behind the counter. As for cholesterol or heart medicine, it depends on what is in the medication and how long it's been on the market and how extensively it's been tested.

it was an example

LittleMsSunshine
10-04-2007, 11:54 PM
I agree with Wicked.

I think it'd be a great thing... especially for families who can't afford to go to the doctor to get the prescription.

MIKOSWIFEY
10-05-2007, 12:00 AM
It's a complete pain in the ass for the pharmacy. It's a pain in the ass for the consumer. People still make meth and will still do whatever the heck they need to do to get what they want, so ultimately it's stupid and a waste of time.

Green~Mammy
10-05-2007, 01:43 AM
I agree withTrina.

inmansgirl06
10-05-2007, 06:44 AM
there are certain meds that i think would do good for behind the counter, like low dose birth control (obviously to those 18 and up or with parental permission). but antibiotics i dont think would be a good idea, if your not a doctor you cant really self diagnos yourself. Ya know just because ya have a sore throat doesnt mean you have strep. So I dont know, guess it really depends on what meds they are talking about

missyanne24
10-05-2007, 09:33 AM
i think if they're going to be selling pills behind the counter, they need to regulate that the pharmacist can't tell you that you CANNOT buy them... i.e. the morning after pill, etc..if you qualify to buy them legally otherwise.

Green~Mammy
10-05-2007, 02:23 PM
there are certain meds that i think would do good for behind the counter, like low dose birth control (obviously to those 18 and up or with parental permission). but antibiotics i dont think would be a good idea, if your not a doctor you cant really self diagnos yourself. Ya know just because ya have a sore throat doesnt mean you have strep. So I dont know, guess it really depends on what meds they are talking about

You don't need parental permission to get BC pills/depo as is you can go to planned parenthood and get them as a minor (ages 12 and up) without parental consent.

LittleMsSunshine
10-05-2007, 06:21 PM
there are certain meds that i think would do good for behind the counter, like low dose birth control (obviously to those 18 and up or with parental permission). but antibiotics i dont think would be a good idea, if your not a doctor you cant really self diagnos yourself. Ya know just because ya have a sore throat doesnt mean you have strep. So I dont know, guess it really depends on what meds they are talking about

:agree

I was always taught to avoid antibiotics if you can.... they're not very good for you to take all the time... they should be used sparingly. :)

However... there's always people like me with chronic sinus infections and strep..... antibiotics are sometimes my best friend :giggle

That reminds me... antibiotics... I think yeast infection medicines should all be OTC, lol.