View Full Version : Pilots slept on overnight flight


Veronica
11-02-2007, 11:06 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071102/ap_on_re_us/sleeping_pilots;_ylt=AgmQwp6C0..oLlTeuicYdYes0NUE


DENVER - Two commercial pilots allegedly fell asleep on a flight between Baltimore and Denver, with one pilot waking up to "frantic" calls from air traffic controllers warning them they were approaching the airport at twice the speed allowed.

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The March 2004 event, which was discussed during a Congressional hearing Wednesday, was reported by the captain on the flight on NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System, which allows crew members to anonymously document incidents.

Details of the "red eye," or late night/early morning flight, including the airline, flight number, or number of passengers aboard are not included in the reporting system. It did note the type of airplane, an Airbus A319, which are flown by Frontier Airlines and United Airlines.

United spokeswoman Megan McCarthy told the Rocky Mountain News, which first reported the incident, that United did not fly a "red eye" between the two cities at the time and it had no reports of that incident.

Frontier spokesman Joe Hodas told the newspaper the airline had a "red eye" flight on the schedule at the time but could not find a report of the incident.

Federal Aviation Administration officials did not immediately return a message left by The Associated Press after business hours.

"Last 45 mins of flt (flight) I fell asleep and so did the FO (first officer)," according to the narrative in the report.

The captain noted they were approaching a point where they were to begin their descent into Denver International Airport about 60 miles southeast of there at 35,000 feet, much higher than required, and at Mach .82, or 608 mph, instead of a required slower speed.

"I woke up, why I don't know, and heard frantic calls from ATC ... I answered ATC and abided by all instructions to get down. Woke FO (first officer) up."

He spiraled the jet down to a lower altitude as ordered, then landed "with no further incidents."

The pilot had been switched to three nights in a row of flying the overnight, eight-hour round trip.

While unable to find a report on the incident, Hodas said the airline has received similar reports in the past and have addressed them, noting that pilot fatigue is a bigger issue in the industry than the public realizes.

"We take safety very seriously and watch crew fatigue very closely," he said.

The company has a number of programs in place to prevent crew fatigue, including no-fault fatigue reporting in which a pilot who feels fatigued and is scheduled to fly can call and be relieved from flying.
:wow

Becca
11-02-2007, 11:13 AM
:sigh

Kiser'sBabe
11-02-2007, 11:19 AM
WOW

mrskmw
11-02-2007, 11:19 AM
wow!!!!

Lckychrmzz
11-02-2007, 11:21 AM
holy cow. i guess they forgot to drink some redbull. i would be scared shitless if i was on that plane.

Veronica
11-02-2007, 11:22 AM
holy cow. i guess they forgot to drink some redbull. i would be scared shitless if i was on that plane.

:yes the scary part is the passengers probably never even knew.

Heather
11-02-2007, 12:05 PM
I heard about that on the news. They said they are not placing the blame on the pilot but the airline. Thats some scary stuff right there :wow

harrisonsdream
11-02-2007, 12:07 PM
it happens more than you think on long flights. i'm glad they are placing the blame on the airline not the pilots. the pilots have to fly to keep their jobs :dunno it's sad though

Jillove27
11-02-2007, 12:17 PM
Yeah this is scary to me since I fly over to Europe alot! If they were sleeping on that long flight I would be upset! Beacause I trust them to keep us safe!Talk about putting our lives in danger. :(

USNIwife
11-02-2007, 04:54 PM
:sigh (dummies)

ltlfoot
11-02-2007, 04:59 PM
That is so freaky. I agree it falls on the airline. However, the pilot should've told someone he was so tired. Especially if they have a "fatigue line" or whatever. But, ultimately, the airline should not schedule people like that, pilots or otherwise.