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crewchiefwife
11-06-2007, 07:21 PM
Right now the house is trying to impeach VP Cheney what are your thoughts on this?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/11/cheney_impeachment_resolution.html

LaneyBug
11-06-2007, 10:11 PM
Honestly, I don't even care anymore. So, I will leave it to people who actually have an opinion to make that decision. I don't know how to say it to make it clear, but it is such a clusterf%$^ anymore, that I'm just tired of it all.

LittleMsSunshine
11-06-2007, 10:12 PM
My thoughts? I think I need to go watch the news.... :D :D :D

LuvNmyAO
11-06-2007, 10:13 PM
no comment here either

harrisonsdream
11-06-2007, 10:15 PM
not touching this with a 100ft pole.

leftover
11-06-2007, 10:16 PM
not touching this with a 100ft pole.

Me either...

*.:Hope:.*
11-06-2007, 10:16 PM
well that's what I get for being sick, I didn't even know the house was/is trying to impeach him.

LittleMsSunshine
11-06-2007, 10:18 PM
well that's what I get for being sick, I didn't even know the house was/is trying to impeach him.

I'm a news JUNKIE and I haven't even heard of this..... gonna go look it up. I have all kinds of opinions about Cheney.... but I'm sure they'd be pretty unpopular on this site, so I'll just keep them to myself.

I will say though.... in general, I am totally 100% in favor of holding criminals accountable for their crimes. :yes

MSJackson
11-06-2007, 10:26 PM
Right now the house is trying to impeach VP Cheney what are your thoughts on this?

oh no, did he shoot someone else?:lmao

Wicked
11-07-2007, 12:36 AM
This isn't the first time. Or at least this isn't a new development. This has been in the works for a while. And I think that if they have the grounds to do it, they should. If Congress can impeach Clinton for his personal life, then why not impeach Cheney for his political one?

LittleMsSunshine
11-07-2007, 12:54 AM
This isn't the first time. Or at least this isn't a new development. This has been in the works for a while. And I think that if they have the grounds to do it, they should. If Congress can impeach Clinton for his personal life, then why not impeach Cheney for his political one?

:agree

Green~Mammy
11-07-2007, 01:00 AM
This isn't the first time. Or at least this isn't a new development. This has been in the works for a while. And I think that if they have the grounds to do it, they should. If Congress can impeach Clinton for his personal life, then why not impeach Cheney for his political one?

I agree 100%. I am also hoping they don't stop with Cheney, after all he does have a boss that should also be held accountable.

Astra
11-07-2007, 01:03 AM
I agree 100%. I am also hoping they don't stop with Cheney, after all he does have a boss that should also be held accountable.

ITA :yes
i didnt even know they were trying to impeach him before i read this thread >.>' :oops

Loretta
11-07-2007, 01:06 AM
Well, I'm not afraid to comment, because I don't care what anyone thinks about my political beliefs:lol SMALL FISH in the sea of life.

I agree-criminals should be held accountable. If they have proof he is indeed a criminal, I hope he gets every bit the sentence that anyone else would.

I haven't even bothered to watch the news for months, so I have no clue. Just don't really care, either.
I agree, clusterf#@$.

Traci
11-07-2007, 07:03 AM
not touching this with a 100ft pole.

:yes

MIKOSWIFEY
11-07-2007, 07:09 AM
Can they add Bush to that? If they can, awesome. If not, what's the damn point?

mpicky
11-07-2007, 09:56 AM
I am all for it. I don't think it will go through, but, I do believe this is one reason the Democrats were voted into Congress.

mrskmw
11-07-2007, 09:57 AM
not touching this with a 100ft pole.

Me either!!!

crewchiefwife
11-07-2007, 10:48 AM
This isn't the first time. Or at least this isn't a new development. This has been in the works for a while. And I think that if they have the grounds to do it, they should. If Congress can impeach Clinton for his personal life, then why not impeach Cheney for his political one?
I agree, I saw it last night on tv it was the house argueing about whether or not to impeach him

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/11/cheney_impeachment_resolution.html


Cheney Impeachment Resolution Sent to House Committee
The House voted today to send a resolution considering the impeachment of Vice President Cheney to the Judiciary Committee, a move that embarrassed Democratic leaders who were forced into the parliamentary tactic to avoid a floor debate on impeachment.

Led by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, the long-shot anti-war candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, scores of Democrats were joined by scores of Republicans in initially supporting a Kucinich resolution that would have prompted a full debate on impeaching Cheney.

Democratic leaders long ago rejected any consideration of impeaching Cheney and President Bush as an irresponsible move supported only by the far left, so they tried today to table Kucinich's impeachment resolution. After initially having more than enough votes to kill the resolution - the "yea" tally to table impeachment topped out at 291 - Republicans decided they had a chance to politically shame Democrats into a full debate on the sensitive issue. Republicans gleefully said they wanted the debate to show the public how many Democrats would actually support impeaching Cheney, which they consider a move supported only by a fringe element of anti-war activists.

More than 120 members, predominantly Republicans, then switched their votes in favor of holding a one-hour debate on the issue, with a final vote of 251-162 supporting a debate on impeachment. Rather than allow a debate fraught with political risk, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) moved to send the Kucinich resolution to the Judiciary Committee, whose chairman, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), has publicly speculated about impeaching the president or vice president but has declined taking any action since taking the gavel in January.

Defusing any chance of an actual impeachment debate today, the House then voted 218-194 to send the motion to Conyers's committee, with Democrats overwhelmingly supporting the move.

Today's resolution from Kucinich (D-Ohio) was essentially the same as the legislation he introduced earlier this year, which included three articles of impeachment against Cheney based largely on allegations that he manipulated intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. The last article accuses Cheney of threatening "aggression" against Iran "absent any real threat."

"In all of this, Vice President Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as Vice President, and subversive of constitutional government, to the prejudice of the cause of law and justice and the manifest injury of the people of the United States," Kucinich said on the floor today, reading his resolution. "Wherefore Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office."

Kucinich, who had 22 co-sponsors for his articles of impeachment measure, predominantly members of the left leaning Out of Iraq Caucus, has been angry that Democratic leaders would not allow impeachment to be considered. He took to the floor today to offer his impeachment articles as a privileged resolution, which under the chamber rules can be offered by any member and must be considered within two days of its offering.

MontanaSweetie
11-07-2007, 11:18 AM
I had no idea this was happening either...

Honestly, what's the point though. That administration will be gone next year when the new president is elected. I do agree that if they have full proof that he has committed a criminal act, that he should be held accountable for it.

Brandi
11-07-2007, 11:26 AM
I'm confused, what did he do that would be considered criminal? This is all news to me, but I haven't been following the news very closely lately anyhow.

harrisonsdream
11-07-2007, 11:27 AM
I'm confused, what did he do that would be considered criminal? This is all news to me, but I haven't been following the news very closely lately anyhow.

i've been wondering too :shrug

Krisha
11-07-2007, 11:27 AM
I could care less honestly. It's a little too late. Why wait the time and money when he will clearly be gone very soon. Take that energy and time and come up with a real plan to end this war.

Wicked
11-07-2007, 11:35 AM
Read the impeachment documents. It lists the grounds for impeachment.

I am honestly surprised that people can't see what he has done that could earn him an impeachment. LOL.

MontanaSweetie
11-07-2007, 11:58 AM
This is the reason, I'm assuming :dunno

Today's resolution from Kucinich (D-Ohio) was essentially the same as the legislation he introduced earlier this year, which included three articles of impeachment against Cheney based largely on allegations that he manipulated intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. The last article accuses Cheney of threatening "aggression" against Iran "absent any real threat."

Krisha
11-07-2007, 11:59 AM
Read the impeachment documents. It lists the grounds for impeachment.

I am honestly surprised that people can't see what he has done that could earn him an impeachment. LOL.

I don't think it's as though we can't see what he's done but I personally don't care any more. There are much more important issues to be taken care of at this point in time.

Wicked
11-07-2007, 12:11 PM
I don't think it's as though we can't see what he's done but I personally don't care any more. There are much more important issues to be taken care of at this point in time.

Well, holding people responsible for their actions, especially when those action cost lives, is important to me. I don't think that just because we are only 14 months from the end of this administration that they shouldn't be investigated. What happened to accountability? Rule of law?

Del
11-07-2007, 08:33 PM
ITA :yes
i didnt even know they were trying to impeach him before i read this thread >.>' :oops

:yes But, I'll have to read up on this... I try to avoid the news, and I haven't heard anything about this yet.

mermom
11-09-2007, 04:35 PM
Wow... what rock have I been living under?