ok so i have a just under year old beagle (he turns one on nov. 24). he is a really good dog except when he has something he should not have. he has a time out spot already. yesterday he snapped at me with the intent to hurt and today he snapped at dh with the intent to hurt. he just started this about 2 days ago. crate training at this point would not be beneficial being as he is a well-behaved dog except when he has something he shouldn't. today it was over a lollipop stick yesterday it was something he found outside. what sort of punishment can we use to deter him? he goes in time out after he does something like snapping/biting.

Spank his ass when he tries to bite you obviously timeout isn't working so well. Hope he quits that before you have the baby.

I really have no advise for you, but I hope that he stops soon!

Try a water bottle...spray him right in the face

Have you tried looking up some discipline ideas online?? I am getting ready to see what I can find, if I see a good site I will post it

thanks ladies. yeah he gets spanked hard. when he bit me i hit him super hard around the face and he rolled on his back and ducked his tail. he gets time out in addition to spanks. i'm going to research some stuff online.

I'd pop him in the nose. He'll learn eventually.

I would either use a water bottle and spray him in the face like Judy said or flick him in the nose but make sure you said "NO" loudly and firmly.

thanks. again. the water bottle usually snaps him out of trying to bite us. i'm reading online also and it says to leave the room/time out when they bite which is what happens when he is very out of control.

well as the dog whisperer would say, try claiming the item rather than taking it away. IE move in and claim it. kwim, also the harsh noise and the hand/claw thing he does that really does work.

You could also try bitter apple and spay that in his mouth, also try to slowly adjust him to allowing you to take things away from him. I really hope he stops!

rosebud how can we claim it if when we get close he tries to bite us?

when he makes a move you either say no or some other harsh sound. the main thing is to not back down.. which is hard because who wants to get bit, but when you draw back you are letting him know you are afraid.. Oreo was very toy possesive, so I would move in making sure to not just swoop in and take it, and slow try and take what I was getting, if she went after me i would say hey, and when I would reach the toy if she went after me again I would say hey and with my other hand do the touch thing. It took a while ( not gonna lie) but it worked and she came to realize that I control when she plays with what. I would suggest start with toys or things he feels comfy with kwim, rather than things he shouldn't have, if you can safely get those away it can help trigger for when he has stuff he shouldn't

Try a water bottle...spray him right in the face

Have you tried looking up some discipline ideas online?? I am getting ready to see what I can find, if I see a good site I will post it

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Another idea is instead of smacking his butt get him under his chin. Another idea is either bitter apple spray, when he snaps spray his mouth, or get a empty clean can and put some rocks, marbles, coins, anything that can make noise, put tape over the part you would drink from to seal it up and throw it on the ground when he does something. Just say NO and throw it down. You can't shake it or throw it for any reason except to train your dog or they think it's a game. You can make your own or get a fancy version at petsmart. It's a great tool. It broke my boxer of jumping up on people. I have know people to do it for barking, jumping, getting on the couch anything. Good Luck! Nip it before the baby comes.

traci that's exactly what worries both dh and me. and i'm very hesitant to just give him to someone because i do not want to turn on the news and see my dog on tv for being abused or something ya know. that scares me but not as much as what he might do to the baby which is why this is going to work even if i have to get those falconers gloves and do it kwim?

thanks rosebud :) we'll try that too. i also emailed his obedience trainer to see if she has/had any suggestions

traci that's exactly what worries both dh and me. and i'm very hesitant to just give him to someone because i do not want to turn on the news and see my dog on tv for being abused or something ya know. that scares me but not as much as what he might do to the baby which is why this is going to work even if i have to get those falconers gloves and do it kwim?

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I think this is something you guys can fix before the baby comes. Animals can sense things so he may know it's almost baby time. Do you have the crib and stuff out yet? My OB told me to put the stuff up about a month before so the dog had time to get use to it. Maybe call your vet. They may have ideas. I am sure they have run into this before. He is testing you guys. Show him who's boss.:club

yeah the crib and everything is out. like i said this has just started the last 2 days. i think he senses the end is near because he did this when i was newly pregnant (acting up). i think he's just trying to make sure mommy doesn't go away or something i dunno :shrug

yeah the crib and everything is out. like i said this has just started the last 2 days. i think he senses the end is near because he did this when i was newly pregnant (acting up). i think he's just trying to make sure mommy doesn't go away or something i dunno :shrug

Sometimes they can be just like kids.

yeah i'm thinking he knows everything is set to change very very soon

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Beagles-2535/Beagle-Puppy-Attacking.htm
i found this on a website for beagles

First, if this doesn't stop with in a short period I would recommend contacting a dog trainer or speaking to your local SPCA.
When he is starting to bite pick him up (no, snatch him up) and turn him over in your arms. Hold him down with your hand over his chest and belly (mostly chest but low enough that he can't bite you). Look him in his eyes (don't get close enough that he can bite you).This is a submissive position and most puppy's don't like it. BUT, he bite you so, you don't care if he likes it or not!! Hold him there until he submits and stops trying to get away. Also, wait until he turns his eyes to the side and doesn't look you in the eyes. This is another way that he is submitting. Only do this to put him in check. Don't do this when he is being good (this is a correction not a training tool). Afterward you can play with him.
Second, if you ever play games with him that he can win DON'T let him win. He can win one out of 3 times (or 1 out of 5 times to start). If you play tug of war guess who wins? YOU! If he wins these games he will gain more dominates with every win.
Third, you can grab him by the back of his neck. Don't tap his nose or hold his mouth. If you have ever seen a mother beagle correct her pups she will bite them on the back of these neck and hold them. You don't have to hurt him. Just grab a hand full of the back of his neck and hold him and tell him "NO BITE". You shouldn't have to do this for more then 10 seconds but, you can do this over and over. Soon he should know what no bite means. Tell him no bite and if he doesn't listen grab the neck.
Since he is so small now picking him up may be the best thing to prevent getting bite and being in more control.
I really hope this helps. Whatever he learns now will make him the dog he will become.

after he stops it would be good training to teach him drop it and leave it, i never have to reach to to grab something he shouldnt anymore

thank you so so much. he will do leave it sometimes

My dogs wouldnt be living in this house if they acted like that...We have a spoken agreement between us...

Good luck! I hope he stops before the baby gets there...

Plain and simple - you are not the alphas in this "pack". If you were, in his mind, he would not engage in any sort of resource guarding but would readily surrender anything to you. You have had some excellent advice. Because of the impending arrival and the added importance of you and your DH becoming the true pack leaders before that time (for everyone's sake) I would suggest seeking some assistance from a behaviourist.

yeah well there are no behaviorists in this area, he's been to obedience training already, i'm waiting to hear back from her.

you need to continue his training...I know how hard it is to make to classes, my DH is super busy and he still takes them because its important.

i emailed noel already at guiding hands and i'm just waiting on hearing back from her

i emailed noel already at guiding hands and i'm just waiting on hearing back from her

are you going to continue his classes?

She is busy, she is showing this weekend and as a bunch of finals. Ill see her tonight and thursday and Ill mention it to her.

Yep a water bottle, and spray him right in the face

are you going to continue his classes?

She is busy, she is showing this weekend and as a bunch of finals. Ill see her tonight and thursday and Ill mention it to her.

i asked her for suggestions being as we have the baby on the way. thanks for letting me know that she is super busy this weekend. if she suggests he continue with classes then we might work that into our budget or see where she points us

there is a woman in NK that deals with aggressive dogs, her name is Shade, you may want to consider working with her..

thanks jenny. he bit dh really hard last night, he's going to the dr today to get a proper bandage on it. :sigh

Let me get shades number...Ill pm it to you when they send it...

thank you so so much jenny. i really appreciate it

I would either use a water bottle and spray him in the face like Judy said or flick him in the nose but make sure you said "NO" loudly and firmly.
:agree
bop on the nose
spank the bum

thanks jenny. he bit dh really hard last night, he's going to the dr today to get a proper bandage on it. :sigh
:wow that puppy woulda been in big trouble

Curve your hand in a "C" like shape and then poke him hard with your entire hand. Its supposed to be like a bite he would get from another dog from misbehaving. This works well for my dogs. I'm sure I'm not explaining it correctly, but it really does work. Give him a very firm "No", or use a noise like a "Ch" sound and only use that noise when he's in trouble that way he associates it with something he's doing wrong.

:wow that puppy woulda been in big trouble

he was/is.

Okay, I've raised about 8 puppies in my lifetime (7 of them were for Guide Dog's for the Blind) and a few things they taught us over the years with agressive puppies (I've had 3 German Shepherds) was to grab them around the mouth when they nip/bite at you. What I mean by that is to put your hand over the top of their snout, like you are going to pick up something, thumb on ones side, fingers on the other side, then you squeeze so you pinch his lips/jowls between his teeth and your fingers, just enough that they yelp and get the message, and make sure you reapeat the command 'don't bite' or whatever you want to use. I had one Shepherd that out of desperate measures, I was told to bite him back. He was just a baby, like 5 months at most, and when squeezing his nose like I mentioned, I bit him square on the nose. I don't recommend that, since you really dont' want your face near a dog's mouth if they bite, but since my boy was a puppy it was more that biting was wrong while playing, not that he was biting me for a reason. But try pincing his nose like I said. And always stare them square in the eyes! Show them you are the dominant one! Our dog now is great, but we've noticed that when we stare at him (when he's begging for food while we eat mostly) he gets all kinds of self concious and upset, starts to whimper and what not.... His previous owners were big on beign the dominant alpha male in training....

And although you are hesitant to reach for a toy or anything they are agressive over, if you want to keep the dog, you have to prove you are the alpha. Someone said it earlier, swoop in, take the toy/item, and grab them over the nose and squeeze if they get protective. Grabbing their nose like this will help to keep them from biting you too. And if they do chomp down on your fingers while you are squeezing (I have yet to have it happen with any of the puppise I've trained) then it's time to invest in an agression trainer if you want to keep him.

Good luck.....

(7 of them were for Guide Dog's for the Blind)

Slight T/J - was that the one out of San Rafael?

Slight T/J - was that the one out of San Rafael?

Yup, sure was. My mom is now a leader for the 4-H puppy raising project in North Orange County, CA. Although the rules have changed about this kind of thing, back then it was allowed, and worked.


Um.... call me dense, but what does T/J mean?

If he is just doing it w/ some things then he may be "garding" and w/ that what may help is if you work on this when he does NOT have somthing that he normaly tryes to bit you for. you take a handfull of treats and somthing that he likes but will NOT gard like if he likes a Kong w/ peanut butter but will not try to bite you if you take it away give him the kong then toss some treast like a few chunks of string cheese or his faverite soft treat somthing that he likes. when he goes to get it take the kong off the flor and let him eat the treats. give it back to him and let him lick somemore of the peanutbutter out then toss somemore treats. the more that you do it the more that he should get useto you taking things from him. hope that helps

i thought you made the decision to give him up? apparently you've changed your mind.

i agree with those who've said you & your dh are definitely not the alpha in this relationship. crosby knows if he gets a little agressive you are gonna back down. my dog knows that if i want something she has, she best give it up. a lot of times i can just give her "the look" and she backs off of it.

another thing you can work on to assert your dominance is take something crosby really likes (i usually use a bone), make sure he sees it, put it at your feet & tell him "mine", then don't let him have it. if he comes towards it, do the dog whisperer thing (make a "pssst" sound, which i usually follow with "no", & "poke" him with your hand in his collar area on the side of his neck. make him wait a few minutes until he calms down about the situation & then let him have the bone, giving him a command like "okay" or "yours" as you release the treat to him.

if/when your dh gets treated for the bite, crosby may be put under quarantine, meaning you can't surrender him to a shelter or rescue for a period of time. i'm not sure exactly what the laws on this are in wa.

I don't have any advice for you but I hope you figure something out. I'd be scared to have a baby around him. Good luck!

Yup, sure was. My mom is now a leader for the 4-H puppy raising project in North Orange County, CA. Although the rules have changed about this kind of thing, back then it was allowed, and worked.


Um.... call me dense, but what does T/J mean?


(i beleive its thread jacking:))

he is doing much better actually. dh and i had been getting lax with him and he's doing much much better. we are definitely going to keep working with him.

We have a mini yorkie and the spray bottle works wonders.. But she also had a crate.. we try not to use it because I think theres other ways to train her besides locking her up.