Ok couldnt figure out where to put this so it goes here. I know its going to get flack so might as well....

"Merry Christmas !!!"


T'was the month before Christmas
When all through our land,
Not a Christian was praying
Nor taking a stand.
Why the Politically Correct had taken away,
The reason for Christmas - no one could say.
The children were told by their schools not to sing,
About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.
It might hurt people's feelings, the teacher would say,
December 25th is just a " Holiday ".

Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit,
Pushing folks down to the floor just to get it!
CDs from Madonna, an X BOX, an I-pod,
Something was changing, something quite odd!
Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa,
In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.
As Targets were hanging their trees upside down,
At Lowe's the word Christmas - was no where to be found. At K-Mart and Staples and Penny's and Sears,
You won't hear the word Christmas; it won't touch your ears
Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty
Are words that were used to intimidate me.
Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen,
On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton !
At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter
To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.
And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith.
Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace.
The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and
discarded,
The reason for the season, stopped before it
started.
So as you celebrate "Winter Break" under your
"Dream Tree", Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me.
Choose your words carefully, choose what you
say,
Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS, not Happy Holiday.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!:yes:five:woot

All I will say is this:

I am not religious. I do however say Merry Christmas. I ALSO say happy holidays. Its the "holiday" season meaning Christmas and New years. So when I say happy holidays I am referring to the season and to the holidayS. Not just Christmas. I Christmas I do answer my phone Merry Christmas and wish people it.

All I will say is this:

I am not religious. I do however say Merry Christmas. I ALSO say happy holidays. Its the "holiday" season meaning Christmas and New years. So when I say happy holidays I am referring to the season and to the holidayS. Not just Christmas.

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Amen!

Merry Christmas!

All I will say is this:

I am not religious. I do however say Merry Christmas. I ALSO say happy holidays. Its the "holiday" season meaning Christmas and New years. So when I say happy holidays I am referring to the season and to the holidayS. Not just Christmas. I Christmas I do answer my phone Merry Christmas and wish people it.

same here!!!

All I will say is this:

I am not religious. I do however say Merry Christmas. I ALSO say happy holidays. Its the "holiday" season meaning Christmas and New years. So when I say happy holidays I am referring to the season and to the holidayS. Not just Christmas. I Christmas I do answer my phone Merry Christmas and wish people it.


Kristi worded it perfectly.

Merry Christmas!!!

one thing that annoys me is when businesses put up "holiday trees" umm last time i checked the trees we put up in december were for Christmas not Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or any other holiday

Kristi worded it perfectly.

:yes

Merry Christmas!!!

one thing that annoys me is when businesses put up "holiday trees" umm last time i checked the trees we put up in december were for Christmas not Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or any other holiday

Nope, Christmas trees were ripped off from the Pagen practice of the yule log, most Christian holidays mirror Pagen ones since it was a way that the Catholic church could get the Pagens to mass and the Pagens could still practice the old ways under the guise of the Catholic church doctrine. Everyone was "happy" and it led to less persecution of Pagens thus less burning at the stake and other barbaric acts perpetrated by the Catholic church during the dark ages.

This whole thing real is chapping my hide are we going to do this ALL month it is starting to make me feel quite bitter and it is in fact starting to make me think that there may be many Christians harboring this ill will towards their fellow Americans in specific and man kind in general. What is SO wrong with Happy Holiday's go look at the stores what do YOU see? Do you see Menorah's every where? Do you see Kwanzaa every where? Yule? Ramadan? (which by the way passed it was from September 13th to October 12th) Do you even know when ANY of these holidays happen or what they are about? Do you care? No all you care is that some one might want you to include them in the month of merry making, family togetherness, and in general a well being of our fellow human beings. Is THIS the spirit of the season? Is this what Jesus would want? From what I was taught as a child (I was raised Catholic) NO this type of bitterness is the EXACT opposite of what he would of behaved like. It is not being PC to consider how OTHERS may feel.

Sorry I won't be reading anymore threads like this because it is really getting under my skin. The sense of entitlement is disturbing.

I'm going to start saying this just to be safe.. happy chrismahanukwanzakah... haha jk. I normally say Merry Christmas unless I know that the person i'm with doesn't celebrate christmas

Merry Christmas!!!

one thing that annoys me is when businesses put up "holiday trees" umm last time i checked the trees we put up in december were for Christmas not Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or any other holiday

Well, considering that those trees are actually traditionally PAGAN symbols for Yule, why is it automatically a CHRISTMAS tree when someone puts it up? I am not Christian, so if I put up a tree it sure won't be a Christmas tree since I don't celebrate Christmas.

I say Merry Christmas, it is how I was raised and I don't even think of it when I say it. If someone else wants to say something different or not celebrate at all more power to them.

I don't think anyone should be told they are not allowed to say Merry Christmas, just like I don't think anyone should be told they are not allowed to say Happy Hollidays, Happy Rahmadon (sp?), or whatever else their belief.

I view the "holidays" as a time for giving, and being with family. I think that any religion can celebrate that. IMO

I say both, but mostly Merry Christmas.

The Japanese say Merry Christmas. They like to decorate, but they don't really celebrate.

Coming from a really fundamentalist, conservative Christian....

Christmas is such a secular holiday that I don't understand why people are offended by Merry Christmas. I mean, Santa and reindeer and eggnog, really? Santa isn't Christian, and since Jesus wasn't really born on Christmas and it's just a ripoff of a pagan holiday, I honestly don't see why people have such a heartburn about "Merry Christmas" being Christian because it's NOT.

That said, I do say Merry Christmas to most people...except my one Jewish friend (and I have the major Jewish holidays marked on my calender at work, so I remember...I'm too much of a flake otherwise). I think even he has a Christmas tree though.

Coming from a really fundamentalist, conservative Christian....

Christmas is such a secular holiday that I don't understand why people are offended by Merry Christmas. I mean, Santa and reindeer and eggnog, really? Santa isn't Christian, and since Jesus wasn't really born on Christmas and it's just a ripoff of a pagan holiday, I honestly don't see why people have such a heartburn about "Merry Christmas" being Christian because it's NOT.

That said, I do say Merry Christmas to most people...except my one Jewish friend (and I have the major Jewish holidays marked on my calender at work, so I remember...I'm too much of a flake otherwise). I think even he has a Christmas tree though.


A lady that works with my mom is Jewish. I adore her and refer to her as my "Jewish" mother. She loves it! I always send her a Christmas card too. She thinks it's cute. Ironically, her husband (also Jewish) was born on Christmas day, so I always make sure to write HAPPY BIRTHDAY in it too.

I think people get butthurt over the silliest things sometimes. 95% of the time, people do not mean to offend others. :dunno

you know, i see so many more people get upset about people saying "happy holidays" than "merry christmas." in my personal experience, nobody cares when somebody says merry christmas (again, i know this isn't everywhere, just ime) but when somebody says "happy holidays" i see soooo many people take it as like a personal offense. saying happy holidays isn't freaking bashing christmas, it's just wishing somebody a happy holiday season. i don't see it as being PC, i see it as being courteous to others, and i DON'T see it as discourteous to christians just because some people choose to recognize the other major holidays in the season.

you know what, if somebody's wishing me well, whatever it is they're saying, i'm just grateful for the positive attitude.

A lady that works with my mom is Jewish. I adore her and refer to her as my "Jewish" mother. She loves it! I always send her a Christmas card too. She thinks it's cute. Ironically, her husband (also Jewish) was born on Christmas day, so I always make sure to write HAPPY BIRTHDAY in it too.

I think people get butthurt over the silliest things sometimes. 95% of the time, people do not mean to offend others. :dunno

i agree with this. i don't go around wishing people merry christmas/happy holidays or whatever with the expectation that my possible underlying political or religious affiliations will be analyzed. i'm just trying to give somebody some well wishes.

I really don't care either way. I'm not religious but I don't get bent out of shape if someone wishes me a merry christmas. I switch back and forth between merry christmas and happy holidays, I like to use both, depending on when it is. Neither irritates me or offends me, so I'm just neutral on it. :dunno

Nope, Christmas trees were ripped off from the Pagen practice of the yule log, most Christian holidays mirror Pagen ones since it was a way that the Catholic church could get the Pagens to mass and the Pagens could still practice the old ways under the guise of the Catholic church doctrine. Everyone was "happy" and it led to less persecution of Pagens thus less burning at the stake and other barbaric acts perpetrated by the Catholic church during the dark ages.


:hail

In fact, read Jeremiah 10:1-5.

I'm not religious in the least, but I do have to concede, good point!

you know, i see so many more people get upset about people saying "happy holidays" than "merry christmas." in my personal experience, nobody cares when somebody says merry christmas (again, i know this isn't everywhere, just ime) but when somebody says "happy holidays" i see soooo many people take it as like a personal offense. saying happy holidays isn't freaking bashing christmas, it's just wishing somebody a happy holiday season. i don't see it as being PC, i see it as being courteous to others, and i DON'T see it as discourteous to christians just because some people choose to recognize the other major holidays in the season.

you know what, if somebody's wishing me well, whatever it is they're saying, i'm just grateful for the positive attitude.

I figure that since I wouldn't be offended if someone else wished me well in reference to a different religion/holiday, then they shouldn't be offended if I wish them a Merry Christmas. It's not like saying Merry Christmas is preaching or trying to convert someone. For goodness sake, all we're doing is wishing them well in the spirit of the season.

That said, Merry Christmas everyone! :bliss


ETA: I also say Happy Holidays. It is really just a matter of what comes out of my mouth first :P

Nope, Christmas trees were ripped off from the Pagen practice of the yule log, most Christian holidays mirror Pagen ones since it was a way that the Catholic church could get the Pagens to mass and the Pagens could still practice the old ways under the guise of the Catholic church doctrine. Everyone was "happy" and it led to less persecution of Pagens thus less burning at the stake and other barbaric acts perpetrated by the Catholic church during the dark ages.

This whole thing real is chapping my hide are we going to do this ALL month it is starting to make me feel quite bitter and it is in fact starting to make me think that there may be many Christians harboring this ill will towards their fellow Americans in specific and man kind in general. What is SO wrong with Happy Holiday's go look at the stores what do YOU see? Do you see Menorah's every where? Do you see Kwanzaa every where? Yule? Ramadan? (which by the way passed it was from September 13th to October 12th) Do you even know when ANY of these holidays happen or what they are about? Do you care? No all you care is that some one might want you to include them in the month of merry making, family togetherness, and in general a well being of our fellow human beings. Is THIS the spirit of the season? Is this what Jesus would want? From what I was taught as a child (I was raised Catholic) NO this type of bitterness is the EXACT opposite of what he would of behaved like. It is not being PC to consider how OTHERS may feel.

Sorry I won't be reading anymore threads like this because it is really getting under my skin. The sense of entitlement is disturbing.

:yes thank you. you said this so much better than i did. what is SO WRONG with saying happy holidays? it's not like people are going around saying eff christmas. geez all they're doing is encompassing more than one celebration.

I figure that since I wouldn't be offended if someone else wished me well in reference to a different religion/holiday, then they shouldn't be offended if I wish them a Merry Christmas. It's not like saying Merry Christmas is preaching or trying to convert someone. For goodness sake, all we're doing is wishing them well in the spirit of the season.

That said, Merry Christmas everyone! :bliss

i agree with you. and for the record, i don't get offended when people say merry christmas. like i said, i'm just grateful for the positive attitude. what i don't like is when people act like somebody saying happy holidays, or stores requiring their employees to say happy holidays instead of merry christmas, means they're trying to do something other than simply be respectful of others. in my hometown people act like saying happy holidays is trying to, i dunno, ruin christmas for everybody forever. or something. but then i will be the first to admit that my hometown is nowhere near an accurate example of most of the general population.

this is a sore topic with me.
very few people actually care about whether or not you say 'merry christmas' but a LOT of people get mad over 'happy holidays'

the way i see it is, december holds quite a few holidays... hanukka, winter solstice, kwanzza... which isnt even RELIGIOUS. kwanzza is actually a celebration of the earth... its like a thanksgiving.. you give thanks to the earth for the food it has given you.. and the life... most people who celebrate kwanzza also celebrate christmas or (not as often) hanukka.

i cant stand listening to certain 'christians' bitching and moaning (pardon the harshness) over others 'not giving them the RIGHT to practice their religion.'

excuse me?

by saying HAPPY HOLIDAYS you are acknowledging ALL the holidays and giving EVERYONE the right to practice their own!

and for that matter... as the poem mentioned it... what is this bullshit about how awful it is that public schools dont allow mandatory prayer anymore? and then say... NO ONE BELIEVES IN JESUS BECAUSE OF IT!

they are not saying you cant believe in jesus... they are just saying some dont. and religious freedom is part of America's Freedoms.

with that said, jesus could care less if anyone is forced to pray... he would actually be AGAINST that seeing as he was an all loving pacifist who just wanted everyone to be good and kind and caring.

certain people need to stop trying to force their religion into public places where not all people believe in it... and be more like certain people from the same and other religions who just practice their religion because they WANT to... and NOT try to convert the entire nation.

i dont say happy holidays OR merry christmas... if its CHRISTMAS i say merry christmas... if its HANUKKA and the person i am talking with celebrates, i say happy hanukka... otherwise... whatever one person says to me... i just repeat it.

i hope for the best for everyone
and i dont use this time of year as a means to do it... i do it year round.

and WITHOUT making religion a big deal of it.

I work with the public so most times I say Happy Holidays.. sometimes they "correct" me and say Merry Christmas and in turn I say it back..

However with those I know.. I say Merry Christmas

Yikes....and people wonder why I'm reluctant to say that I'm Christian. Believe it or not, there is quite a bit of animosity towards us, and it's really unfortunate. In fact, I would say that I'm actively discourage from practicing my religion, and I live in what is apparently the Bible Belt!

Christians in America are not persecuted, Christians in certain middle eastern countries, Christians in China, Christians in various other communist countries THEY are persecuted. Until you have to hide in basements or attics to worship, until you have to memorize whole religious texts because it is too dangerous to have the written texts, until you are rounded up and murdered for your faith you have no idea what persucution really is. To say American Christians are persecuted is a slight among all of the many that HAVE been truly in all sense of the word persecuted.

American Christians have freedom of religion JUST LIKE every other American in this country. The only difference is before it was OK to be the majority and not make exceptions for anyone else's religious view points. (Prior to the civil rights movements it was common to have signs saying No Dogs, No Blacks, No Jews allowed) Or rather it was ok to exclude or discriminate them for their beliefs. Just because the majority is made to SHARE that limelight does NOT mean they are being oppressed or having their rights removed.

I have nothing against Christmas we celebrate a secular version in my OWN home. I don't care if I am wished Merry Christmas or Happy Holiday's. I just get tired of EVERY holiday season reading this crap. It IS crap because if you open your eyes you will see secular Christmas every where and religious Christmas every where that it is appropriate. (people's lawn's, private businesses, churches.) It is EVERYWHERE so I don't get why Happy Holiday's makes Christians so angry.

Do you know WHY they have holiday parties rather then Christmas parties at schools? Think how it might feel to be the lone Jewish kid in the class, or the lone Muslim kid, Pagen kid etc. Why shouldn't the party be all encompassing? It's not because people are offended and angry it is so ALL the children can feel a part of the occasion.

I doubt anyone is angry about Merry Christmas perhaps they are angry about the sense of moral superiority, and entitlement.

Christians in America are not persecuted, Christians in certain middle eastern countries, Christians in China, Christians in various other communist countries THEY are persecuted. Until you have to hide in basements or attics to worship, until you have to memorize whole religious texts because it is too dangerous to have the written texts, until you are rounded up and murdered for your faith you have no idea what persucution really is. To say American Christians are persecuted is a slight among all of the many that HAVE been truly in all sense of the word persecuted.

American Christians have freedom of religion JUST LIKE every other American in this country. The only difference is before it was OK to be the majority and not make exceptions for anyone else's religious view points. (Prior to the civil rights movements it was common to have signs saying No Dogs, No Blacks, No Jews allowed) Or rather it was ok to exclude or discriminate them for their beliefs. Just because the majority is made to SHARE that limelight does NOT mean they are being oppressed or having their rights removed.

I have nothing against Christmas we celebrate a secular version in my OWN home. I don't care if I am wished Merry Christmas or Happy Holiday's. I just get tired of EVERY holiday season reading this crap. It IS crap because if you open your eyes you will see secular Christmas every where and religious Christmas every where that it is appropriate. (people's lawn's, private businesses, churches.) It is EVERYWHERE so I don't get why Happy Holiday's makes Christians so angry.

Do you know WHY they have holiday parties rather then Christmas parties at schools? Think how it might feel to be the lone Jewish kid in the class, or the lone Muslim kid, Pagen kid etc. Why shouldn't the party be all encompassing? It's not because people are offended and angry it is so ALL the children can feel a part of the occasion.

I doubt anyone is angry about Merry Christmas perhaps they are angry about the sense of moral superiority, and entitlement.

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Well said, Green Mammy!

I totally agree with Jamie. Absolutely.

I figure that since I wouldn't be offended if someone else wished me well in reference to a different religion/holiday, then they shouldn't be offended if I wish them a Merry Christmas. It's not like saying Merry Christmas is preaching or trying to convert someone. For goodness sake, all we're doing is wishing them well in the spirit of the season.

That said, Merry Christmas everyone! :bliss


ETA: I also say Happy Holidays. It is really just a matter of what comes out of my mouth first :P

I don't get mad when people wish me a Merry Christmas even though I am not Christian, but I just wanted to ask you in regards to your post...

If I don't celebrate Christmas, why would you wish me a Merry one? If you really want to wish someone well in the spirit of the season, why would you pick a greeting only that only recognizes something they do not celebrate?

That's the one thing I never understood. :shrug

I get upset by people who get upset when people say happy holidays to them what does it matter. You can continue to say Merry Christmas and I can say happy holidays to you. why get upset about it? and I agree with Green Mammy she makes her points much better than I am right now :yes

I get upset by people who get upset when people say happy holidays to them what does it matter. You can continue to say Merry Christmas and I can say happy holidays to you. why get upset about it? and I agree with Green Mammy she makes her points much better than I am right now :yes

too true. i mean... happy holidays MEANS merry christmas!
sure it also means OTHER things...

BUT CHRISTMAS IS INCLUDED!

I totally agree with Jamie. Absolutely.



I don't get mad when people wish me a Merry Christmas even though I am not Christian, but I just wanted to ask you in regards to your post...

If I don't celebrate Christmas, why would you wish me a Merry one? If you really want to wish someone well in the spirit of the season, why would you pick a greeting only that only recognizes something they do not celebrate?

That's the one thing I never understood. :shrug

How am I to know what a particular person celebrates? I am not saying "Happy Christian Day" or something like that...
Let me ask you something...how many people who don't like "Merry Christmas" put up a Christmas tree? Or hang stockings? Or give their children presents from Santa? I going to go ahead and say most of them. So they are celebrating Christmas, whether or not they are practicing Christians. IMO, Merry Christmas is not a religious statement anymore.

How am I to know what a particular person celebrates? I am not saying "Happy Christian Day" or something like that...
Let me ask you something...how many people who don't like "Merry Christmas" put up a Christmas tree? Or hang stockings? Or give their children presents from Santa? I going to go ahead and say most of them. So they are celebrating Christmas, whether or not they are practicing Christians. IMO, Merry Christmas is not a religious statement anymore.

LOL, CHRISTMAS is a CHRISTIAN thing, so basically yeah, you are saying Happy Christian Day. LOL.

"Christmas" trees are pagan traditions. Santa is NOT strictly a Christian thing, at least I don't remember Santa being in the bible. Stockings aren't either. So, you can do ALL of that and NOT celebrate Christmas. CHRISTmas is a religious statement. Hence the whole CHRIST part. LOL. Happy Holidays on the other hand, is not. Neither is Seasons Greetings.

LOL, CHRISTMAS is a CHRISTIAN thing, so basically yeah, you are saying Happy Christian Day. LOL.

"Christmas" trees are pagan traditions. Santa is NOT strictly a Christian thing, at least I don't remember Santa being in the bible. Stockings aren't either. So, you can do ALL of that and NOT celebrate Christmas. CHRISTmas is a religious statement. Hence the whole CHRIST part. LOL. Happy Holidays on the other hand, is not. Neither is Seasons Greetings.

Well, its not like I'm going to say Merry Pagan-tree-Secular-jolly-old-fat-guy-Put-goodies-in-a-sock Day am I? So Christmas it is, since that is the holiday those things have come to symbolize.

Well, its not like I'm going to say Merry Pagan-tree-Secular-jolly-old-fat-guy-Put-goodies-in-a-sock Day am I? So Christmas it is, since that is the holiday those things have come to symbolize.

You can say whatever you want. I just don't understand why HAPPY HOLIDAYS is so offensive. Why does it have to Merry Christmas or NOTHING for some people? :dunno NOT EVERYONE IS CHRISTIAN. LOL. I just really don't understand why anyone would think that not saying Merry Christmas is some kind of personal insult against Christianity. It's isn't. Christmas is one of the holidays included in the phrase Happy Holidays. Why does it HAVE to be singled out?

I just don't get it...

Well, its not like I'm going to say Merry Pagan-tree-Secular-jolly-old-fat-guy-Put-goodies-in-a-sock Day am I? So Christmas it is, since that is the holiday those things have come to symbolize.

But see thats the point. You should be free to wish what you want and others NOT get offended. Its kinda a damned if ya do and damned if ya dont situation. If you say nothing then people get offended. If you say happy holidays people get offended etc.

I celebrate the season. I celebrate the lights, giving, scents, family, togetherness, tree, santa, magic etc. It doesnt matter to me if someone wishes me happy holidays or merry christmas or whatever. Shoot if someone wished me Happy Hannukah I would wish it back and be pleased someone thought enough to wish it to me. Even tho I am not Jewish

Its a holiday season filled with numerous holidays. So saying happy holidays has become popular because you have NO idea if the person in you are wishing celebrates Christmas, or Hannukah, or whatever. This way you cover all the holidays. I say it as a way to cover it all including new years. This time of year is about MORE then JUST Christmas. Saying Happy Holidays is easier then asking WHAT the person believes and wishing them it

I am happy when people wish me anything. its a season of giving. A happy season. Regardless of beliefs. Its about togetherness

But see thats the point. You should be free to wish what you want and others NOT get offended. Its kinda a damned if ya do and damned if ya dont situation. If you say nothing then people get offended. If you say happy holidays people get offended etc.

I celebrate the season. I celebrate the lights, giving, scents, family, togetherness, tree, santa, magic etc. It doesnt matter to me if someone wishes me happy holidays or merry christmas or whatever. Shoot if someone wished me Happy Hannukah I would wish it back and be pleased someone thought enough to wish it to me. Even tho I am not Jewish

Its a holiday season filled with numerous holidays. So saying happy holidays has become popular because you have NO idea if the person in you are wishing celebrates Christmas, or Hannukah, or whatever. This way you cover all the holidays. I say it as a way to cover it all including new years. This time of year is about MORE then JUST Christmas. Saying Happy Holidays is easier then asking WHAT the person believes and wishing them it

I am happy when people wish me anything. its a season of giving. A happy season. Regardless of beliefs. Its about togetherness

:tu I agree. Seriously, I personally could care less if someone wishes me Merry Christmas even though I'm not a Christian. I just wish them one right back. It just upsets me that people actually get ANGRY with me if I wish them Happy Holidays.

But see thats the point. You should be free to wish what you want and others NOT get offended. Its kinda a damned if ya do and damned if ya dont situation. If you say nothing then people get offended. If you say happy holidays people get offended etc.

I celebrate the season. I celebrate the lights, giving, scents, family, togetherness, tree, santa, magic etc. It doesnt matter to me if someone wishes me happy holidays or merry christmas or whatever. Shoot if someone wished me Happy Hannukah I would wish it back and be pleased someone thought enough to wish it to me. Even tho I am not Jewish

Its a holiday season filled with numerous holidays. So saying happy holidays has become popular because you have NO idea if the person in you are wishing celebrates Christmas, or Hannukah, or whatever. This way you cover all the holidays. I say it as a way to cover it all including new years. This time of year is about MORE then JUST Christmas. Saying Happy Holidays is easier then asking WHAT the person believes and wishing them it

I am happy when people wish me anything. its a season of giving. A happy season. Regardless of beliefs. Its about togetherness

:agree also with Wicked. People do get all up in arms if I say happy holidays rather than merry christmas.

Its just sad because whats gonna happen is people will stop wishing it to strangers for fear of people getting angry or insulted by it. How sad is that. I think instead of being focused on WHAT was wished, be happy ANYTHING was wished. Life is too short

Chimming in late, but...I don't care what people say to me, whether it be Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Have a Cool Yule...whatever. On the other hand, I do get pissed when people try to take the meaning for me away. I.e. In my house, Christmas is about the birth of Christ (yes, we know that his actually birth was not in December) and the stories that we pass down from the Bible. NOBODY has the right to take that away from us or ask us to not say Merry Christmas. For other people who are not Christians, Christmas or "the holiday season" has other meanings. For others it may just be a time of reflection or exhanging gifts or whatever. I would not try to take that away from them either.

Still not understanding how making a TINY effort to include EVERYONE in a greeting and NOT JUST Christians by saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas takes anything away from anyone... :dunno

Still not understanding how making a TINY effort to include EVERYONE in a greeting and NOT JUST Christians by saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas takes anything away from anyone... :dunno

doesn't take anything away from it for me. Everytime I keep reading "happy holidays" I keep wanting to burst out singing Happy Holidays!!!

Here you go Miss Sunshyne...

'Twas the week before Christmas and all through the House
No bills were passed 'bout which Fox News could grouse;
Tax cuts for the wealthy were passed with great cheer,
So vacations in St. Barts soon would be near;

Katrina kids were nestled all snug in motel beds,
While visions of school and home danced in their heads;
In Iraq our soldiers needed supplies and a plan,
Plus nuclear weapons were being built in Iran;

Gas prices shot up, consumer confidence fell;
Americans feared we were on a fast track to...well...
Wait--- we need a distraction--- something divisive and wily;
A fabrication straight from the mouth of O'Reilly

We can pretend that Christmas is under attack
Hold a vote to save it--- then pat ourselves on the back;
Silent Night, First Noel, Away in the Manger
Wake up Congress, they're in no danger!

This time of year we see Christmas every where we go,
From churches, to homes, to schools, and yes...even Costco;
What we have is an attempt to divide and destroy,
When this is the season to unite us with joy

At Christmas time we're taught to unite,
We don't need a made-up reason to fight
So on O'Reilly, on Hannity, on Coulter, and those right wing blogs;
You should just sit back, relax...have a few egg nogs!

'Tis the holiday season: enjoy it a pinch
With all our real problems, do we honestly need another Grinch?
So to my friends and my colleagues I say with delight,
A merry Christmas to all, and to Bill O'Reilly...Happy Holidays.

:rofl

Here you go Miss Sunshyne...

'Twas the week before Christmas and all through the House
No bills were passed 'bout which Fox News could grouse;
Tax cuts for the wealthy were passed with great cheer,
So vacations in St. Barts soon would be near;

Katrina kids were nestled all snug in motel beds,
While visions of school and home danced in their heads;
In Iraq our soldiers needed supplies and a plan,
Plus nuclear weapons were being built in Iran;

Gas prices shot up, consumer confidence fell;
Americans feared we were on a fast track to...well...
Wait--- we need a distraction--- something divisive and wily;
A fabrication straight from the mouth of O'Reilly

We can pretend that Christmas is under attack
Hold a vote to save it--- then pat ourselves on the back;
Silent Night, First Noel, Away in the Manger
Wake up Congress, they're in no danger!

This time of year we see Christmas every where we go,
From churches, to homes, to schools, and yes...even Costco;
What we have is an attempt to divide and destroy,
When this is the season to unite us with joy

At Christmas time we're taught to unite,
We don't need a made-up reason to fight
So on O'Reilly, on Hannity, on Coulter, and those right wing blogs;
You should just sit back, relax...have a few egg nogs!

'Tis the holiday season: enjoy it a pinch
With all our real problems, do we honestly need another Grinch?
So to my friends and my colleagues I say with delight,
A merry Christmas to all, and to Bill O'Reilly...Happy Holidays.

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Merry Christmas!!!!!

Still not understanding how making a TINY effort to include EVERYONE in a greeting and NOT JUST Christians by saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas takes anything away from anyone... :dunno

But I should not have to change what I say, just as I don't ask others to change what they say. I take what is said by each individual in the spirit it is given.....I am not going to say to somebody who says to me, "Happy Hanukkah" - "By the way, I'm not Jewish, so say something different that includes Christians and non-Christians." I know they mean well and just want to wish me a joyous and safe season.
Personally I don't dissect what I say in greeting to another person during the holidays. It is usually just the first thing that pops to mind...it may be Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays or whatever.
But, that is JMO.:D

But I should not have to change what I say, just as I don't ask others to change what they say. I take what is said by each individual in the spirit it is given.....I am not going to say to somebody who says to me, "Happy Hanukkah" - "By the way, I'm not Jewish, so say something different that includes Christians and non-Christians." I know they mean well and just want to wish me a joyous and safe season.
Personally I don't dissect what I say in greeting to another person during the holidays. It is usually just the first thing that pops to mind...it may be Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays or whatever.
But, that is JMO.:D

:tu I don't disagree with you. Just saying that there are people who hate the term Happy Holidays because they think it takes away from Christmas. I don't get that...

Of course, I have NEVER heard of ANYONE being forced to change what they say. The only time it is even an issue is when a company asks it's employees to say a certain greeting, and I can hardly feel bad for people who knowingly go against the policy their company puts in place. Besides the fact that the policy is usually instituting an all encompassing greeting, which there is NOTHING wrong with seeing as they are trying to make sure that ALL of their customers are covered (kinda the JOB of the company, therefore the job of the employees), if someone pays you to do a job, they have the right to fire you if you don't do it. Especially if you knowingly and willfully go against company policy. Bottom line. Otherwise, when has anyone ever been forced to say anything? I have never heard of a person being fined, arrested, or sued for saying "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" in public. :shrug I see a lot of people complain because other people CHOOSE not to say what they want them to, but no one is FORCED.

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Merry Christmas!!!!!

Merry Christmas to you too :D

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