What do you think of girls who try to trap men *or boys* in a relationship by getting pregnant on purpose?

that they're desperate and conniving. can't see as how the relationship would ever be that great considering it was built on such manipulation. the poor child too...

I think of them the same way as girls who get pregnant to get out of going on a deployment.

:loser

Yes I agree, if you are not happy know do you honestly thing having a baby is going to make him a better person and stay with you.

And girls who try to get out of cruise or dets drive me crazy ____why even join the navy.

it's just wrong

I'm not sure there's anything positive to say about them...

Just out of curiosity, what made you think to ask?

lol, exactly Zelda...I was going to say "i think their great!" :lol

Does this apply to young girls who think having a baby will make their relationship better & will be happy?

I think it's sad all around....They don't know it at the time, but a baby isn't going to solve anything and then they have to learn the hard way....

Does this apply to young girls who think having a baby will make their relationship better & will be happy?

I think it's sad all around....They don't know it at the time, but a baby isn't going to solve anything and then they have to learn the hard way....

:yes among other things....

Well I think that it shows a lack of maturity, to think that having baby with a man/boy who won't commit to you, will make him suddenly want to commit in a relationship.

Its a really bad choice. From what I've seen it really doesnt work. She'll end up with the kid no man and no money. Not smart. they need to be better educated

Its a really bad choice. From what I've seen it really doesnt work. She'll end up with the kid no man and no money. Not smart. they need to be better educated

I have always had the "old fashioned" belief that you should wait until you are married to have children. I am raising my daughter this way. Having a child to trap a man/boy into an inevitable rocky marraige at best, is immoral, immature, and just not a good idea. As Heather said - she will end up with a kid, no man and no money. My husbands first wife did that to him....it didn't work out....

Nothing good ever comes of it. Most of the time the child is looked at with resentment (by both parents-from what I have seen). It is a constant arguement and way more drama than should ever be brought into a child's life.

i dont think that you can totally put this on the girls though. i have had john beg me to have his child so that i could move to CA and marry him. and that is just as bad..

it is just so immature and foolish

i dont think that you can totally put this on the girls though. i have had john beg me to have his child so that i could move to CA and marry him. and that is just as bad..

it is just so immature and foolish

I would have to disagree with you. A woman can protect themselves from getting pregnant. A woman has control over her body. Use protection if you don't want to get pregnant.
Besides, why would you have to 'have a child' in order to move to California and get married. Why not get married!

a woman does not have total control. for example, i was taken off my BC by my doctor and have not been on anything for 6 months. i am not able to take anything until they figure out what to do wiht me :lol

i wouldnt marry him and he knew i would if i had a kid (to answer your last question)

Then don't have sex.

Then don't have sex.


:agree

A woman is ultimately in control, except in instances of rape.

a woman does not have total control. for example, i was taken off my BC by my doctor and have not been on anything for 6 months. i am not able to take anything until they figure out what to do wiht me :lol

i wouldnt marry him and he knew i would if i had a kid (to answer your last question)

You and every other woman DOES have total control of their body. If you don't, then who does? And there are other methods of BC than just pills!

I think it's sad that girls and women get pregnant for all the wrong reasons...trapping the man, wanting to feel loved, etc...It' sad, and it's wrong because the child is the one who ends up suffering. I wish more people understand how wonderful it is to have a child, but how hard and time consuming it really is. It's NOT NOT NOT something to be taken lightly! :no

And people who get mad because they get pregnant when they didn't use ANY form of BC need slapped!

A friend of mine recently came to me completely distraught that she might be pregnant. She wont do anything without a condom, but she found out that her guy has been taking it off halfway through sex. She caught him the last time, they had just changed positions and she noticed he'd taken it off. She, of course, was completely livid as without her knowledge the control had been taken away from her.

A friend of mine recently came to me completely distraught that she might be pregnant. She wont do anything without a condom, but she found out that her guy has been taking it off halfway through sex. She caught him the last time, they had just changed positions and she noticed he'd taken it off. She, of course, was completely livid as without her knowledge the control had been taken away from her.


my old roommate found out her cousin's boyfriend had been poking holes in their condoms :(

i am glad john would never go that far with me.

but situations like that prove that the woman does not always have control

my old roommate found out her cousin's boyfriend had been poking holes in their condoms :(

i am glad john would never go that far with me.

but situations like that prove that the woman does not always have control


BUT, a woman has the choice to abstain. I cant imagine wanting to be touch by someone willing to poke holes in a condom.

BUT, a woman has the choice to abstain. I cant imagine wanting to be touch by someone willing to poke holes in a condom.

totally.. but she did not know until she was pregnant with his child.

BUT, a woman has the choice to abstain. I cant imagine wanting to be touch by someone willing to poke holes in a condom.

Wow, have I gone back in time 50-60yrs without being told?!

I wouldn't want to be touched by someone like that either, but if I was male I doubt I'd want to be touched by a girl who messed with her birth control. They're both the same in my book.

Shouldn't there be en equal responsibility to the man and woman to ensure that they dont have a baby if they dont want one?

Shouldn't there be en equal responsibility to the man and woman to ensure that they dont have a baby if they dont want one?

Yes there is. But the discussion was about woman trapping men into marriage by getting pregnant intentionally. Accidents happen. Women these days are probably NOT going to abstain. Trapping a man into marriage by getting pregnant is NOT going to make a woman's relationship with her boyfriend better. Yes, sometimes it works out. Majority of time it backfires and the woman ends up with a baby and no man. Babies should be cherished, not used as a pawn.

Yes there is. But the discussion was about woman trapping men into marriage by getting pregnant intentionally. Accidents happen. Women these days are probably NOT going to abstain. Trapping a man into marriage by getting pregnant is NOT going to make a woman's relationship with her boyfriend better. Yes, sometimes it works out. Majority of time it backfires and the woman ends up with a baby and no man. Babies should be cherished, not used as a pawn.

:agree

EXACTLY!

Yes there is. But the discussion was about woman trapping men into marriage by getting pregnant intentionally. Accidents happen. Women these days are probably NOT going to abstain. Trapping a man into marriage by getting pregnant is NOT going to make a woman's relationship with her boyfriend better. Yes, sometimes it works out. Majority of time it backfires and the woman ends up with a baby and no man. Babies should be cherished, not used as a pawn.


I believe I have already posted that I dont think there is anything positive to say about the issue of trapping men with babies. The last comment I made was objecting to the statement that the woman has total control and that women should simply abstain if they do not want to get pregnant. If you read the previous comments you might see that the debate has changed to a slightly different topic.

There is ALWAYS a slight risk of getting pregnant, even if you wear a condom, use birth control, hell, sometimes even surgeries (vasectomy, etc.) can still allow conception! So its up to both the male and the female to be careful, but its never 100% foolproof unless you abstain, so yes, ultimately, its up to the woman to not get pregnant... IMO

I understand that the debate has changed. And I do agree with the statement that if a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, then they should take steps to prevent it from happening, or abstain.

And the same goes for the guy - if he doesn't want to be trapped, he should either abstain or at least put a condom on!

I disagree. I agree that its a man and a womans RESPONSIBILITY, but its up to the woman not to get pregnant! A woman does have ultimate control... if she does not want to have a chance at getting pregnant, then she should not have sex! My pregnancy was an "planned surprise" meaning we weren't using BC, but hadn't got pregnant in over two years of unprotected sex.. but if I were to say that I had no control over that would be foolish.

I disagree. I agree that its a man and a womans RESPONSIBILITY, but its up to the woman not to get pregnant! A woman does have ultimate control... if she does not want to have a chance at getting pregnant, then she should not have sex! My pregnancy was an "planned surprise" meaning we weren't using BC, but hadn't got pregnant in over two years of unprotected sex.. but if I were to say that I had no control over that would be foolish.

I agree that ultimately it's up to the woman and if she doesn't want to get pregnant she should take measures or abstain. BUT we're debating women who are trapping men by getting pregnant. I think it's a fair bet to say that the women in this case wont be taking such measures! Trapping guys by getting pregnant is wrong on many levels, but if a guy really doesn't want a kid he has the same options of either abstaining or putting a condom on.

Trapping guys by getting pregnant is wrong on many levels, but if a guy really doesn't want a kid he has the same options of either abstaining or putting a condom on.

I agree with you there. The issue is honesty. I would say that most women that trap men state that they are on the pill. My husbands ex told him that she was on the pill, when in fact he found out after she got pregnant that she had been 'faking' taking them and hiding them. She was dumb enough to hide them between the mattress and the wall.

When you put it like that, I totally agree with you. A man should obviously know that there is always a risk, so I agree that while the woman might have the "intention" to trap him, he is takilng the risk by having sex as well, so he should wiegh the risk of having the baby vs. the desire to have sex. That is like someone drunk driving, and then getting pulled over for a tailight being out, and being mad that he gets a DUI for a tailight being out. It doesn't matter HOW it happened, you made a choice, and risk the consequences... So yes, now that I see what you are saying, I don't think that a guy can really get trapped.

nevermind...should have read the whole thing before I posted, you guys have already been over my opinion once or twice. it is up to BOTH the male and female to ensure THEY don't get pregnant. Yes the women will have to physically bear the child so she has a little more interest at stake in ensuring she doesn't get pregnant, but it takes TWO to tango!

Wow!! I've never heard of guys poking holes in condoms or takign them off mid-way!! :wow :wow

I mean SHIT it's usually the guy who is deathly afraid of getting some girl pregnant.