So I am supposed to be writing my paper that is due tomorrow, and I've gotten sidetracked from my prison research and ended up on what I would call the prison equivalent of here. (prisontalk.com/forums) I just kept reading and reading and had to share of course...

It's funny how they talk about a lot of the same things as we do, except replace "solider" with "inmate." Some signatures have sparkly graphics that say "loving my inmate." And their countdown tickers are to homecoming too... or parole, or whatever. Theres a forum about conjugal visits too. It must be so hard to be sexually deprived when he is like right there. :hairpull And the women that are staying faithful to their men sentenced to 10+ years... even 'lifers'... and DRs (death row). :eek You can sense the same sort of sadness, hopefulness, and desperation among these women... just under such different circumstances. I mean you wonder what some of these people have done to end up where they are. :paranoid

:shrug I don't know, just thought it was interesting. Or maybe I am just at a point with this assignment that anything is better than actually starting it...

WOW, that's bizar! I never would have guessed a board like that would have existed...

Aww that's sad.

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sorry, I cant help but find it amusing

im glad i found this thread...now i know what i can do while im watching my thursday night shows!

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sorry, I cant help but find it amusing

:giggle :naughty yea same here, just tried to contain my excitement for fear of being eaten alive with criticism :freakout

you know what I think is so interesting?

that we are on this site with our men being deployed for the most like 18 months...to those women on the prison site...that is PROBABLY NOTHING!!! they would come on here and be like damn girl 15 months...thats nothing...try waiting 5 years/6 months/3 weeks!

I can't believe that

wow I definitely wouldnt have thought there was a board for that.

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i couldnt help but look at the bottom LOL That is A LOT of people:wow

that site is oddly fascinating.

I dont get the ones who got married while they were in prison. :shock

That is insanely huge...who would have ever thought there would be that many people on a forum about jail relationships. I find the whole thing depressing. Could you imagine dating a man on death row? Geez. Like TallBlondie said ...I bet they would think 15 months was nothing.

Yeah I've totally been sucked in.

I still think it's sad. :dunno

I think its sad too, I couldn't imagine waiting for so many years like that. 15 months is bad enough :sigh

wow I definitely wouldnt have thought there was a board for that.

I dont understand the surprise that there is a board out there of loved ones in prison :dunno especially with the amount of men and women there are in jails and prisons all over this country (not directed at you Rain or anyone in articular, just quoted you bc it pertained to my thoughts ;) ). Its a very hard thing on the loved ones. If someone is family, they are family and you miss them no matter where they are. Many more people are forgiving and understanding than most people realize. I think its good for people to have somewhere to go anonymously and talk about the hardships going on in their life- no matter what the hardship is (terminal illness, loss of child, loved one in prison, loved one overseas). They probably feel the need for anonymousness more than anyone. Its not something you can usually freely talk about with most people.

(I havent actually looked at the site yet though :giggle )

Wow, that is fascinating! I can't stop reading! There are definitely a lot of interesting parallels, except that place is like the Twilight Zone version of SOS, cause...it's kinda creepy! I was reading the "Is your man a violent offender" thread and there are so many women who said "they think he is, but I KNOW he didn't do it!" or "yes, he killed someone, but he's a big teddy bear with me!" or "well, yes, but it's only cause he was on drugs!" Errrr, charming. Or the huge number of women who met their men as penpals while they were in prison. Haha, that oughta stop people from criticizing girls who met deployed soldiers on myspace...cause that is a whole new level. And I don't even begin to understand how you have a relationship with someone on death row...

I gotta go read more though...I am completely mesmerized!

I dont understand the surprise that there is a board out there of loved ones in prison :dunno especially with the amount of men and women there are in jails and prisons all over this country (not directed at you Rain or anyone in articular, just quoted you bc it pertained to my thoughts ;) ). Its a very hard thing on the loved ones. If someone is family, they are family and you miss them no matter where they are. Many more people are forgiving and understanding than most people realize. I think its good for people to have somewhere to go anonymously and talk about the hardships going on in their life- no matter what the hardship is (terminal illness, loss of child, loved one in prison, loved one overseas). They probably feel the need for anonymousness more than anyone. Its not something you can usually freely talk about with most people.

(I havent actually looked at the site yet though :giggle )

I don't think it's surprising, but I do wonder what is wrong with some of these women. Not that people in prison don't deserve friends and family, and also I'm sure there ARE some situations where I would stand by someone if they were in prison, but so many of the posts I read were just creepy! The things that some of them seem willing to forgive or overlook or be in denial about are staggering. Obviously not everyone in there is a rapist or murderer, but there are girls on there who are hanging on to guys like that, who are probably complete scumbags no matter how many times she says he's "just a big teddy bear!" It makes you wonder if they think they can't do better than that!

I think it is really really sad too.

I just dont get how people call in love with someone while they are in jail for LIFE.

That is mind blowing to me.
I am, however, really glad they have a support system like that, it has to suck

My uncle is a lifer in prison and his wife married him after he got that sentence. Hell, she met him while he was in there. They've been married for.. I think a good 20 years already.

is it bad that in some of those women (or men), I can see the lack of education by their grammar? :hide

is it bad that in some of those women (or men), I can see the lack of education by their grammar? :hide

The same as I can see it with people on here or any other forum, too, though.

My uncle is a lifer in prison and his wife married him after he got that sentence. Hell, she met him while he was in there. They've been married for.. I think a good 20 years already.

I know people do it. I just could never even imagine.

I mean, why marry someone who will NEVER live with you

Wow, I've just discovered the "prisoners seeking penpals" section :eek Who writes to these people...I mean, I know not everyone who writes to them is looking for a relationship, but obviously given the number of people who met their SOs by being penpals, a lot of women do. I mean, geez, they don't even know what these guys are in for! Haha, sometimes after my break-up last month I worry I will become a desperate woman, but knowing that I'm not at THAT level of desperation makes me feel a little better about myself :lol

Oh my, they have a section where they can share their wedding pictures, which I'm happy for them if their happy by all means. But can you imagine your wedding day in a prison? :no

"No I'm not scared of him, he only stabbed a couple people in their faces, theres never been any reason for me to be scared".:wow

Yes someone really wrote that.

haha I am sucked in too! it is so strange that people are meeting them while there are in prison...and still dating them....hmm JMO though. :)

"No I'm not scared of him, he only stabbed a couple people in their faces, theres never been any reason for me to be scared".:wow

Yes someone really wrote that.

:wowsers

"No I'm not scared of him, he only stabbed a couple people in their faces, theres never been any reason for me to be scared".:wow

Yes someone really wrote that.

:oogle

The same as I can see it with people on here or any other forum, too, though.

Thank you for saying that! I was thinking it

The same as I can see it with people on here or any other forum, too, though.

well thats true, I guess.

Although, I haven't seen NEAR as much of that on SOS as other forums...but I could be bias :giggle

yeah I am done looking at that site, it kinda creeps me out a little.

i can't stop reading their posts! i do think it's sad though, i can't imagine waiting 5 years to be with someone, that would be so incredibly hard

i can't stop reading their posts! i do think it's sad though, i can't imagine waiting 5 years to be with someone, that would be so incredibly hard

It would be so hard, but it's hard for me to find a lot of sympathy for some of them. I mean, yes they are waiting longer than girls on here, but there is a big difference between waiting for someone who is serving his country and someone who killed someone. Although I read about a completely heartbreaking case a few months ago...two men were convicted of a murder in the 60s and they spent 30 years in prison and finally got out when it was proved that the FBI witheld evidence that proved they were innocent. Their wives waited for them that WHOLE time...which was sweet, but sad that they lost all those years together. They got a huge settlement from the government, but I'm sure it wasn't worth all the time they lost with their families.

yeah I'm sorry, I just dont have alot of sympathy.

I mean, I understand that their loved one is locked up...

but hell, if that loved one hadnt broken the damn law...they wouldnt be in there :shrug

:munchies
this fascinats me...
I'm off to find more
:creep

you find such COOL stuff.
It is sad though :kickcan what they did to get in there, and how they still have loved ones waiting for them...

I guess the reason I was surprised is because I never really thought about it kwim. I dont have any loved ones in jail so the thought of a prison forum never crossed my mind and it surprised me.

As far as the grammar, I admit I suck! lol just wanted to throw that out there.

but LOL @ so many of us being lurkers over there.

yeah I'm sorry, I just dont have alot of sympathy.

I mean, I understand that their loved one is locked up...

but hell, if that loved one hadnt broken the damn law...they wouldnt be in there :shrug

I totally agree.

I can understand them loving them but there is a limit on certain things.

If your Boyfriend, Fiance or even Husband stabbed someone 20 times then turned around and stabbed another guy wouldnt you be tempted to think "OOOk maybe I shouldn't be with him if hes going around killing people".

I guess I am being harsh or something but in some of these cases on that forum I just dont get how these woman can stick by their SO after knowing and most of all admiting that their SO has killed a person or two... KWIM?

"No I'm not scared of him, he only stabbed a couple people in their faces, theres never been any reason for me to be scared".:wow

Yes someone really wrote that.

:oogle

OMG ok that girl needs to be locked up in a psycward!

Wow, that is a really big board. There is over 1,000 members on it right now. I never knew a forum like that existed either.

Yeah... I knew that was a board...my husband's cousin is serving a 10 year sentence right now and I was talking to his wife (they also have a little boy a couple weeks younger than my daughter) at Thanksgiving and she was telling me about the board and how much it is helping her cope with it. Her husband was set up by his so called friends and he ended up taking the fall because none of them would come forward. He didn't really do anything he knew to be wrong...just drove a buddy to what he thought was his mom's house... turned out the dude murdered someone...so he got 10 years for "helping". So sad. :(

haha, i have a paper due tomorrow too...but i'm going to check out that site...lol

you know what I think is so interesting?

that we are on this site with our men being deployed for the most like 18 months...to those women on the prison site...that is PROBABLY NOTHING!!! they would come on here and be like damn girl 15 months...thats nothing...try waiting 5 years/6 months/3 weeks!

I can't believe that

soooo true. they'd be like daaaayyyymmmm... :yo

that site is oddly fascinating.

I dont get the ones who got married while they were in prison. :shock

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Wow, that is fascinating! I can't stop reading! There are definitely a lot of interesting parallels, except that place is like the Twilight Zone version of SOS, cause...it's kinda creepy! I was reading the "Is your man a violent offender" thread and there are so many women who said "they think he is, but I KNOW he didn't do it!" or "yes, he killed someone, but he's a big teddy bear with me!" or "well, yes, but it's only cause he was on drugs!" Errrr, charming. Or the huge number of women who met their men as penpals while they were in prison. Haha, that oughta stop people from criticizing girls who met deployed soldiers on myspace...cause that is a whole new level. And I don't even begin to understand how you have a relationship with someone on death row...

I gotta go read more though...I am completely mesmerized!

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My uncle is a lifer in prison and his wife married him after he got that sentence. Hell, she met him while he was in there. They've been married for.. I think a good 20 years already.

:eek How does that work?

is it bad that in some of those women (or men), I can see the lack of education by their grammar? :hide

:nerd Did you see the post where the girl was saying that her husband's sentence was.... unforchunate?

Wow, I've just discovered the "prisoners seeking penpals" section :eek Who writes to these people...I mean, I know not everyone who writes to them is looking for a relationship, but obviously given the number of people who met their SOs by being penpals, a lot of women do. I mean, geez, they don't even know what these guys are in for! Haha, sometimes after my break-up last month I worry I will become a desperate woman, but knowing that I'm not at THAT level of desperation makes me feel a little better about myself :lol

:lmao :five

[Quote]: Devinn: yeah I'm sorry, I just dont have alot of sympathy.

I mean, I understand that their loved one is locked up...

but hell, if that loved one hadnt broken the damn law...they wouldnt be in there [Quote]

Not true about them all DESERVING to be there... a LOT of people sitting in prison right now are actually innocent or had been set up or were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and ended up taking the blame... hundreds of people each year are getting let out after they sat they for years only to find there was new evidence and they were innocent the whole time...
I have no sympathy for those that DESERVE to be there, but it's a fact that not all do. I have a friend that had to serve 2 years for "breaking and entering" because his mom called the police on him when he was asleep and had him arrested for breaking into the house he lived in. turned out, he didn't break in...she saw he was failing classes in college and had him locked up under some bogus story so she didn't have to deal with him... all kinds of stupid reasons some people are in there...
not all actually did anything wrong

DEATH ROW GROUPIES

It's real... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/27/MNGMTBVFQJ1.DTL&hw=richard+ramirez&sn=002&sc=638

Scott Peterson had been on Death Row barely an hour when the first proposal arrived from a woman who wants to be the new Mrs. Scott Peterson.

Three dozen phone calls came in to the warden's office on Peterson's first day at his new home in San Quentin State Prison -- women were pleading for his mailing address, and one smitten 18-year-old said she wanted to marry him.

What matters is the allure of marrying a notorious man, regardless of the fact that he may well end his days with a state-approved needle sticking out of his arm. There's the danger of it all, and, ultimately, the safety of it: If things go wrong, the wife can walk away.

"They love the celebrity status," said Jack Levin, a criminologist who is director of the Brudnick Center on Violence at Northeastern University in Boston. Levin is co-author of the book "Extreme Killing: Understanding Serial and Mass Murder," which explores, among other things, what Levin called "killer groupies."

Prison weddings in California are a regular occurrence. In general, about 20 inmates get married in ceremonies held on the first Friday of even-numbered months at San Quentin, and usually at least one condemned inmate is among them.

And Death Row inmates have no shortage of suitors. In fact, the more notorious the murderer, the less he has to work for female companionship, San Quentin spokesman Eric Messick said.

The woman, who did not want to be identified for privacy and job reasons, married the inmate in 1977. He had been sentenced to death for abducting and killing a gas station attendant with some friends on his 21st birthday, but by the time she fell in love, his sentence had been commuted to life.

What the F kind of birthday celebration is that???

For her 1991 book "Women Who Love Men Who Kill," Sheila Isenberg interviewed 30 women who were married to Death Row inmates. By marrying a man on Death Row, Isenberg said, a woman finds a new life that is "always dangerous and exciting. Can he make the phone call? Will he be executed? Will he spend 30 years in prison? All these exciting elements. It's never mundane.

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I am on my way to check it out :five Im interested in this board, I have a friend who is with a guy that got sentenced to 20 years :eek The way I look at is this, they love eachother, who am I to say anything?

They made mistakes, and are clearly paying for them. At least they still have people who care about them. Imagine being put away in a cage for 20-30 years and not having anyone out there that cares about you? That would suck!

I don't understand the ones that met and married after they were in. :dunno I guess they met while being pen-pals? :yes

Anyway, im off to read :lol

"No I'm not scared of him, he only stabbed a couple people in their faces, theres never been any reason for me to be scared".:wow

Yes someone really wrote that.

That kind of made me laugh :teehee

:nerd Did you see the post where the girl was saying that her husband's sentence was.... unforchunate?


bwahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!

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no I didnt see that...but I am SO GLAD u did!

My husband murdered his first wife twenty-one years ago and spent 20 years in prison. Everyone thinks I should be afraid of him, but I'm not.

Okay someone please tell me why would a woman wed a guy WHEN she knows he killed his first wife?

I am offically creeped out

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OH COURSE YOU WOULD BE!

:hystericlaugh

My husband murdered his first wife twenty-one years ago and spent 20 years in prison. Everyone thinks I should be afraid of him, but I'm not. Twenty years ago, he was a 28-year-old drug addict who went into a rage because his wife was divorcing him.

Okay someone please tell me why would a woman wed a guy WHEN she knows he killed his first wife?

I am offically creeped out

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whoooaaa. :sadeyes

I saw this on tv.

One woman met The Nightstalker on the penpal thing and she was doing a report on him.........Now they're married.

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Not true about them all DESERVING to be there... a LOT of people sitting in prison right now are actually innocent or had been set up or were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and ended up taking the blame... hundreds of people each year are getting let out after they sat they for years only to find there was new evidence and they were innocent the whole time...
I have no sympathy for those that DESERVE to be there, but it's a fact that not all do. I have a friend that had to serve 2 years for "breaking and entering" because his mom called the police on him when he was asleep and had him arrested for breaking into the house he lived in. turned out, he didn't break in...she saw he was failing classes in college and had him locked up under some bogus story so she didn't have to deal with him... all kinds of stupid reasons some people are in there...
not all actually did anything wrong

I agree.Not everyone sitting in prison is guilty. Even those who are guilty, not most people have murdered someone or stabbed someone. Some have, yes, but lots are there for breaking and entering in their young teens or something like that. Or probation violations (where maybe they smoked pot- which is not a good thing, something ive never done nor will do- but something MANY ppl can admit to doing, yet would never dream of being in prison bc of it)...there are many reasons. Everyone deserves to be loved. If someone else chooses to love someone who is in jail or prison, who am i to judge :dunno

Also, lots of things ppl are in there for are things that most people or their SO have done at one point in their lives, they just never got caught or never got hit with the worst possible scenerio coming out of it. (Like drinking and driving. some make it home safe and never do it again, others do it the first time and kill someone). Im just not quick to judge on things like that, bc you never know the real story.

ETA: wanted to say that i DO see some cases where I just simply dont understand. And there are people who absolutely deserve to be there. There is a degree of criminal act that i just simply cannot even fathom. But i do try to have sympathy and compassion for the majority of people in the system.

I keep reading the forum and seeing these woman talk about how their men have hit other woman.. some have even hit the other female infront of their SO. Yet they are saying that they are not afraid of their SO.

From my view if I saw my DB hit a girl infront of me I would be afraid of him. Even though I know he wouldn't, its still the fact that if he did I would be afraid he would hit me.. KWIM?

DEATH ROW GROUPIES

It's real... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/27/MNGMTBVFQJ1.DTL&hw=richard+ramirez&sn=002&sc=638

Scott Peterson had been on Death Row barely an hour when the first proposal arrived from a woman who wants to be the new Mrs. Scott Peterson.

Three dozen phone calls came in to the warden's office on Peterson's first day at his new home in San Quentin State Prison -- women were pleading for his mailing address, and one smitten 18-year-old said she wanted to marry him.



:eek

Now THAT is effed up! :wowsers Staying with someone who commits a lesser crime is one thing. But deliberately seeking out a man who killed his wife and unborn child in cold blood!?! What kind of sick woman does that? I mean, I guess they aren't in danger since he's locked up, but why would you waste your life with him? And who are these women? I mean, I know they're out there, but I can't imagine anyone I know personally doing something so crazy!

What part are you guys readng this stuff? This is a HUGE site! Im lost when im looking around :eek

Its really facinating though. I am definitely into reading the threads.

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How many of those guests are us? :lmao :rofl :roflmao

I keep reading the forum and seeing these woman talk about how their men have hit other woman.. some have even hit the other female infront of their SO. Yet they are saying that they are not afraid of their SO.

From my view if I saw my DB hit a girl infront of me I would be afraid of him. Even though I know he wouldn't, its still the fact that if he did I would be afraid he would hit me.. KWIM?

Me too. My feeling is, if a person has the capacity to be violent in that way, they can do so to anyone. I would definitely be afraid. Not out-right shivering in fear afraid all the time, but it would always be in the back of my head. Ex-DB pushed me around a couple times..and after just the 1st time of him doing it, I was always like anticipating it happening again. Fortunately, DB (current) is not a fighter at all. You know, besides that soldier thing he is trained to do... :lol

Currently Active Users: 1517 (286 members and 1231 guests)

How many of those guests are us? :lmao :rofl :roflmao

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:lol :lol :lol

This stuff is amazing. I agree, it's alot like SOS. But, a criminal, twisted SOS :lol Its like "SOS Gone Wild"

This stuff is amazing. I agree, it's alot like SOS. But, a criminal, twisted SOS :lol Its like "SOS Gone Wild"

:rofl

Whoa, holy bad grammer...

hey i have a queation mabe u can awnser it my mom is in vspw for abuse on me and my brothers and sisters she keeps makein my grandma feel bad sayin she has to have laundry soap or shampoo ectect my question is what does the state provide to them is she exerating cause im really getting tired of her tryin to use my grandma like a bank account thanks for the help!

:eek scary!

Whoa, holy bad grammer...

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