I really hate to say this because this is so unbelievably tragic...

and I could SO be WAY OFF BASE here...

but I get the feeling that this girl wasnt as innocent as the media is making her out to be. I mean, she filed rape charges, but continued a "friendly relationship" with him even AFTER she disappeared.

Her uncle says she was "forced" to live off base due to harassment, but....I'm beginning to wonder if she was having an affair with this MARRIED man, got pregnant, he wanted to bolt, she files rape charges, she's harassed due to the affair, and false rape charges (I mean she lived on base for goodness sakes)...basically was trying to force his hand in taking responsibility for the kid.....but he didnt want to because he was married....she DROPPED the charges and was hoppin on a bus RIGHT BEFORE she goes to testify....ultimately in the end..... he killed her....

NOT THAT I AM AT ALL SAYING THIS IS HER FAULT! NO NO NO NO NO NO!

I just cant think that her mom was automatically lying about her, I mean, its HER MOM...
of COURSE the uncle (havent heard anything from the mom lately) is going to blame the military for lack of action....but would they have really just SAT on rape charges like that if they thought it was serious stuff? They OBVIOUSLY knew she was carrying on relations with the guy.

:dunno

Its all so confusing


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080112/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. — For months after a pregnant 20-year-old Marine accused a colleague of rape, her family says, she continued to work alongside her attacker and endured harassment at Camp Lejeune.


In the weeks after she disappeared, they believe, the sheriff's department was slow to act.

As authorities recovered Maria Lauterbach's remains Saturday from a fire pit where they suspect Marine Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean burned and buried her body, her family asked why authorities didn't treat her case with greater urgency.

Naval investigators on Saturday said the pair had been separated on the job, a rape case was progressing and Laurean was under a protective order to stay away from Lauterbach. And Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown insisted his department acted as best they could on the facts available.

"As soon as it went suspicious, we contracted the media and asked for help," Brown said. "The case did not produce enough evidence, other than she was just missing."

On Saturday, her burnt remains, and those of her unborn child, were excavated from Laurean's backyard.

"As well as I could see, the body was much charred," Brown said. "The fetus was in the abdominal area of that adult. ... That is tragic, and it's disgusting."

Authorities have issued an arrest warrant on murder charges for Laurean, 21, of the Las Vegas area. They say he fled Jacksonville after leaving behind a note in which he admitted burying her body.

In his note, Laurean wrote Lauterbach cut her own throat in a suicide, but Brown doesn't believe it and challenged Laurean to come forward and defend his claims of innocence.

Authorities have described a violent confrontation inside Laurean's home that left blood spatters on the ceiling and a massive amount of blood on the wall.

County prosecutor Dewey Hudson said Laurean had been in contact with three attorneys, including Mark E. Raynor, who declined to comment Saturday.

Lauterbach disappeared sometime after Dec. 14, not long after she met with military prosecutors to talk about her April allegation that Laurean raped her.

Her uncle, Pete Steiner, said that Lauterbach — stung by the harassment that eventually forced her to move off base — decided to drop the case the week before she disappeared.

Paul Chiccarelli, the special agent in charge of Naval Criminal Investigative Service at Camp Lejeune, told The Associated Press on Saturday that Marine commanders decided in October to send the case to the military's version of a pretrial hearing. A military protective order had been automatically issued in May and renewed three times.

"Anytime there is a sexual assault allegation involved, that's a standard routine," he said.

Lauterbach and Laurean served in the same unit of the II Marine Expeditionary Force, and court documents indicate Lauterbach's mother told authorities Laurean had threatened her daughter's career.

Steiner said Saturday on ABC's Good Morning America the Marines didn't separate the two personnel clerks, but Chiccarelli said Marine commanders assigned them to separate buildings on May 12.

Neither Brown or Hudson would say Saturday if they would have treated the case differently had they known about the protective order, which they discovered Friday night.

Chiccarelli said sheriff's office investigators were told about the order on Monday.

But Chiccarelli again said investigators didn't consider Laurean a threat to Lauterbach, or later a flight risk, because they had indications the pair were on friendly terms. He declined to detail those indication on Saturday.

Lauterbach's mother reported her daughter missing Dec. 19 — five days after she last spoke with her. By that time, she had been placed on "unauthorized absence" status by the Marine Corps.

"Several steps were taken to contact her via telephone, cell phone, even in person by sending Marines to her residence," said II MEF spokesman Lt. Col. Curtis Hill. "At that time, there was no reason to believe anything other than she had voluntarily placed herself in an unauthorized absence status."

An Onslow County Sheriff's employee contacted Naval investigators Dec. 19 after hearing from police in Ohio and listed her as a "missing person at risk" in a national law enforcement database. He met with Lauterbach's roommate the next day, but court documents indicate he was unable to reach the Marine officer who had been notified of her absence, as he was away on holiday leave.

The employee checked ditches along several highways for her car, and asked the State Highway Patrol and several area hospitals if they had had any contact with the missing Marine. None had. He left word with the department radio room to contact him with any developments before leaving Dec. 22 for a vacation.

Steiner said he and his sister, Maria's mother, told authorities they planned to fly to North Carolina around the Christmas holiday, but were advised not to because authorities believed Lauterbach was headed for Dayton.

Believing that authorities "dropped the ball," Steiner said the Lauterbachs eventually decided they could no longer wait. They flew to North Carolina and met with detectives Monday, the same day court documents indicate authorities first discovered Lauterbach's ATM card had been used by a white male on Christmas Eve and she missed a prenatal care appointment on Dec. 26.

Brown also learned about the case Monday. A series of search warrants were filed, and the case went public as he asked the public for help.

But then again how do we know she wasnt acting friendly b/c he threatened that if she didnt and the charges werent dropped he'd kill her?

But then again how do we know she wasnt acting friendly b/c he threatened that if she didnt and the charges werent dropped he'd kill her?

maybe so...

but according to the timeline...they were carrying on relations from the time the charges were filed up until she died :dunno

and as much of a bitch as the mom is for airing out dirty laundry to the nation....why would she lie?

maybe so...

but according to the timeline...they were carrying on relations from the time the charges were filed up until she died :dunno

and as much of a bitch as the mom is for airing out dirty laundry to the nation....why would she lie?

But you could also look at it as what would she have to gain??? Maybe custody of a baby should she not be dead :dunno
Maybe just her 15 minutes of fame in the light of her step daughters misfortune??

There are just way too many what if's to this whole thing and I that is exactly why the Sherriff is saying that once is all said and done that the twist we hear from this story will be shocking.

They know something and they are keeping it secret for now.......oh to be a fly on the wall :giggle

You can be raped by friends and then be guilted into feeling like it was all your fault. I'm not saying the girl was squeaky clean, I don't think anyone ever was BUT she definitely didn't deserve to die and neither did that baby. He's a bastard who was having an affair and instead of just owning up and taking responsibility, he got "rid" of his "problems". I don't care if she was a lying slut who bedded down with anyone who looked twice at her, she didn't deserve what happened to her and her child.

You can be raped by friends and then be guilted into feeling like it was all your fault. I'm not saying the girl was squeaky clean, I don't think anyone ever was BUT she definitely didn't deserve to die and neither did that baby. He's a bastard who was having an affair and instead of just owning up and taking responsibility, he got "rid" of his "problems". I don't care if she was a lying slut who bedded down with anyone who looked twice at her, she didn't deserve what happened to her and her child.

never said she did.

I heard on Fox News on Friday that she was taking bipolar medicine I think....maybe not medicine, but they definitely said something about her being bipolar. It's a very sad case, and I hope they find out everything that they need to for proper actions to take place.

Regardless of why or how he still murdered her.

But then again how do we know she wasnt acting friendly b/c he threatened that if she didnt and the charges werent dropped he'd kill her?

I agree! :yes

[QUOTE=Devinn;1775315]of COURSE the uncle (havent heard anything from the mom lately) is going to blame the military for lack of action....but would they have really just SAT on rape charges like that if they thought it was serious stuff? They OBVIOUSLY knew she was carrying on relations with the guy.]

The military should be blamed in this case for their lack of action. FYI for example when my husband was stationed at his command at Mayport a sailor in his division raped another sailor. Guess what happened? While the investigation was being performed they protected this female sailor by removing the other sailor from the command and sending him TAD. That was Maria Lauterbach's command SHOULD have done in order to protect her and separate them both from each other until the investigation was either over or went to trial.

Regardless of why or how he still murdered her.

never said he didnt.

The military should be blamed in this case for their lack of action. FYI for example when my husband was stationed at his command at Mayport a sailor in his division raped another sailor. Guess what happened? While the investigation was being performed they protected this female sailor by removing the other sailor from the command and sending him TAD. That was Maria Lauterbach's command SHOULD have done in order to protect her and separate them both from each other until the investigation was either over or went to trial.



thats a bold statement to make considering no one REALLY knows all the facts. they WERE separated on May 12th.

there is a WHOLE STORY here, not just bits and pieces.. . EVERYTHING should be taken into consideration...not just the parts that piss u off.

Its all a matter of perception.

never said he didnt.

I was not directing it at you I was just giving my thoughts on the post.

thats a bold statement to make considering no one REALLY knows all the facts. they WERE separated on May 12th.

there is a WHOLE STORY here, not just bits and pieces.. . EVERYTHING should be taken into consideration...not just the parts that piss u off.

Its all a matter of perception.

Let's see here she had been talking to military investigators about rapes charges, after the charges were made they were still working at the same command, and now she is dead. Hmmmnnnn, does not take a whole lot to figure out that her command failed to protect her. But hey, however you perceive it and all. I just thing your perception is wrong!:D

Let's see here she had been talking to military investigators about rapes charges, after the charges were made they were still working at the same command, and now she is dead. Hmmmnnnn, does not take a whole lot to figure out that her command failed to protect her. But hey, however you perceive it and all. I just thing your perception is wrong!:D

there's a WHOLE LOT OF STORY in the middle of all that tho :yes

I could be wrong :dunno

I'm definitely no investigator....but I've been following this story pretty close and things just arent adding up to be that black and white.

Its all good :wink :D

thats a bold statement to make considering no one REALLY knows all the facts. they WERE separated on May 12th.

there is a WHOLE STORY here, not just bits and pieces.. . EVERYTHING should be taken into consideration...not just the parts that piss u off.

Its all a matter of perception.

To simply separate buildings. Clearly he still had access to her through leaving his building. No offense, but that just seems like a little slap on the wrist and an invitation for further incident.

Regardless of if he raped her or not, if she went to his house willingly or not he killed her and the baby and for that his ass should FRY and then rot in hell.

Regardless of if he raped her or not, if she went to his house willingly or not he killed her and the baby and for that his ass should FRY and then rot in hell.

well duh.

I just want to know what happened...cuz the pieces just dont fit.

well duh.

I just want to know what happened...cuz the pieces just dont fit.

I understand that Devinn I was just adding my 2 cents. I think everybody would like to know what happened. How many times are you going to say Duh to me today? :lmao

JMO, but some assumptions being made are mighty bold statements, that may seem obvious to us now .. but i think we should wait until they release the whole story because theres obviously things they havent figured out..

Maybe its true the military could have done more, but they hadnt gone to court for the rape yet, ((please correct me if im wrong, wouldnt be the first time)) so theres not TOO MUCH else they could have done.. i mean theyre both in the military so its not like he could have been fired or something.. what should they have done to prevent it??

But either way - its pretty brave to say they should be BLAMED for it....

woah this pregnancy hormones thing makes me get very upset and angry about stuff so easily, sorry..

i dont understand why any one even cares if she is "innocent" in all of this or not. we should have more respect for the deceased than to try to find out all the bad facts. even if we did find out she was a lier, a slut, or whatever..... it will not excuse anyone for the murder.

I understand that Devinn I was just adding my 2 cents. I think everybody would like to know what happened. How many times are you going to say Duh to me today? :lmao

am I duh-ing u to death? :lmao

sorry. :giggle

am I being snarky towards u....TOTALLY dont mean to be....maybe its past my bedtime :lol

am I duh-ing u to death? :lmao

sorry. :giggle

am I being snarky towards u....TOTALLY dont mean to be....maybe its past my bedtime :lol

I love you so I'll let it slide :teehee I'm bitchy tonight so the smallest things seem to annoy me and this story just pisses me off. :sigh

i dont understand why any one even cares if she is "innocent" in all of this or not. we should have more respect for the deceased than to try to find out all the bad facts. even if we did find out she was a lier, a slut, or whatever..... it will not excuse anyone for the murder.

no one is looking to "excuse" her murder.

no one is looking to justify her murder..

why does discussing the fact that she may not be so innocent in this whole story mean that I/we must be trying to excuse her death?

i dont understand why any one even cares if she is "innocent" in all of this or not. we should have more respect for the deceased than to try to find out all the bad facts. even if we did find out she was a lier, a slut, or whatever..... it will not excuse anyone for the murder.

I don't think anybody is trying to excuse the murder. More of just trying to understand the story and what lead up to her being killed. I think we would all love to know if he really did rape her or not. It wouldn't change anything of course.

JMO, but some assumptions being made are mighty bold statements, that may seem obvious to us now .. but i think we should wait until they release the whole story because theres obviously things they havent figured out..

Maybe its true the military could have done more, but they hadnt gone to court for the rape yet, ((please correct me if im wrong, wouldnt be the first time)) so theres not TOO MUCH else they could have done.. i mean theyre both in the military so its not like he could have been fired or something.. what should they have done to prevent it??

But either way - its pretty brave to say they should be BLAMED for it....

woah this pregnancy hormones thing makes me get very upset and angry about stuff so easily, sorry..

I couldnt agree more.

no one is looking to "excuse" her murder.

no one is looking to justify her murder..

why does discussing the fact that she may not be so innocent in this whole story mean that I/we must be trying to excuse her death?

i just don't understand the whole point in finding negative facts about her. seriously why? whats the point? i personally think it is disrespectful.

i just don't understand the whole point in finding negative facts about her. seriously why? whats the point? i personally think it is disrespectful.

its not trying to find negative facts about her....its putting the pieces of the story together. Its no different at this point than people trying to find negative facts about the military's responsibility in this.

People are curious about this story...thats why its all over the press and the news.

I don't think anybody is trying to excuse the murder. More of just trying to understand the story and what lead up to her being killed. I think we would all love to know if he really did rape her or not. It wouldn't change anything of course.

I just want to know why he'd murder her, then bother to try to paint over blood spatter, write a note saying she "slit her own throat", bury/burn her body, etc if he wasn't guilty of the first crime. If he knew he was innocent, why not step up and prove it in court?

IMHO I think tha the military dropped the ball on their end of things. I think that things were covered up. I could be wrong but at this point I think that this is the case. She wasnt protected and I think that they knew what was going on.

An innocent child and mom is dead. :sigh

.

I just want to know why he'd murder her, then bother to try to paint over blood spatter, write a note saying she "slit her own throat", bury/burn her body, etc if he wasn't guilty of the first crime. If he knew he was innocent, why not step up and prove it in court?

because he's married.

affair....pregnant mistress....cry rape....continued relations.....dead girl.

just a theory tho.

I don't get why you think drudging up every single past mistake this young woman made "pieces together the story". Everyone makes mistakes. Even if she had sex consentually with him before doesn't mean that one time she didn't say no and he didn't listen. That is still rape.

About the "friendly" relations, that is what the police *heard*, from who, we don't know. It easily could have been someone trying to cover up for him. Or she could have been trying to prevent an outcome like what occurred. Just because someone is civil with another doesn't mean they are "friendly" with them.

well, the fact is we dont have all the facts....

so I'm not assuming I KNOW what happened, just giving a theory based on whats out there...ALL thats out there...not just the parts that piss me off

obviously u think u already KNOW..

but thats ur thing. :wink

no big drama needed.

IMHO I think tha the military dropped the ball on their end of things. I think that things were covered up. I could be wrong but at this point I think that this is the case. She wasnt protected and I think that they knew what was going on.

An innocent child and mom is dead. :sigh

could be..

we wont really know for a while....

IMO I just dont think its that black and white.

I was going to give my opinion but I can't it hits a little too close to home with me. I hope that she is at peace and I hope that at his trial they remember that she was the victim of this crime and as such is not on trial. I don't really care if she slept with him willingly or not at this point in time it no longer matters. The moment he chose to butcher her is the moment her accusation of rape ceased to matter.

could be..

we wont really know for a while....

IMO I just dont think its that black and white.
Well the last line I posted is black and white.

She is dead and so is her baby....

Once again a man thinks he has the "power"....

I was going to give my opinion but I can't it hits a little too close to home with me. I hope that she is at peace and I hope that at his trial they remember that she was the victim of this crime and as such is not on trial. I don't really care if she slept with him willingly or not at this point in time it no longer matters. The moment he chose to butcher her is the moment her accusation of rape ceased to matter.
I agree with you

I was going to give my opinion but I can't it hits a little too close to home with me. I hope that she is at peace and I hope that at his trial they remember that she was the victim of this crime and as such is not on trial. I don't really care if she slept with him willingly or not at this point in time it no longer matters. The moment he chose to butcher her is the moment her accusation of rape ceased to matter.

:agree

I was going to give my opinion but I can't it hits a little too close to home with me. I hope that she is at peace and I hope that at his trial they remember that she was the victim of this crime and as such is not on trial. I don't really care if she slept with him willingly or not at this point in time it no longer matters. The moment he chose to butcher her is the moment her accusation of rape ceased to matter.

you DO in fact have a point.

I guess I am just trying to make sense of this.

I'm really not trying to put her on trial....I just get really curious about stories like this...trying to figure out wth happened, how the shit did it get to this point, kwim?

So I have been following this story pretty close.

OK let me clarify here...

I AM NOT PUTTING THIS WOMAN ON TRIAL (or not trying to anyway)

This story is BEYOND TRAGIC....and I have been following it very close to figure out how it got to the point of a young mother and unborn child getting burned in the backyard of some sick fucks house.

I'm just really disturbed about the story that is coming to light is all. :dunno

sorry if u all think I'm heartless.

you DO in fact have a point.

I guess I am just trying to make sense of this.

I'm really not trying to put her on trial....I just get really curious about stories like this...trying to figure out wth happened, how the shit did it get to this point, kwim?

So I have been following this story pretty close.

I understand a lot of people feel the same as you do. My head grasps that. My heart though, this story hurts. I have been in that military machine and its not a pretty picture at all. I don't know HER story though so mine shades it in. It is impossible for me to be impartial KWIM. This story has been every where and it has been in several posts just on this board so when I hit new posts there it is.

Makes it hard for me to ignore and I find myself completely unable to discuss this as a rational human being.

I understand a lot of people feel the same as you do. My head grasps that. My heart though, this story hurts. I have been in that military machine and its not a pretty picture at all. I don't know HER story though so mine shades it in. It is impossible for me to be impartial KWIM. This story has been every where and it has been in several posts just on this board so when I hit new posts there it is.

Makes it hard for me to ignore and I find myself completely unable to discuss this as a rational human being.

I totally understand that. :hugs

I don't think you are heartless devinn not at all. I think this story is very much a trigger to my PTSD and maybe it touches a nerve in others on here in a similar fashion. (completely ASSuming here)

because he's married.

affair....pregnant mistress....cry rape....continued relations.....dead girl.

just a theory tho.

Then keep it in your pants.

Besides, I doubt his wife was not around long enough to not notice an affair or at the least a crime scene in her own home.

I know they are saying she is not a suspect, but still.

Another thing, even if he is married, that still seems like an awful lot to just cover a mistress up. Just pay her off. That just didn't stick as a motive for me. Who knows.

well, the fact is we dont have all the facts....

so I'm not assuming I KNOW what happened, just giving a theory based on whats out there...ALL thats out there...not just the parts that piss me off

obviously u think u already KNOW..

but thats ur thing. :wink

no big drama needed.

You are kind of coming off as a condescending bitch, no offense, maybe that is why people are getting so upset. You are sitting here saying "I am not saying I know" but then shooting anyone else's theories down...but that is just me ;)

You are kind of coming off as a condescending bitch, no offense, maybe that is why people are getting so upset. You are sitting here saying "I am not saying I know" but then shooting anyone else's theories down...but that is just me ;)

ok

1) u dont know me or anything about me so I dont think its wise for u to come in here calling me a bitch, name calling is a little childish, dont ya think?

2) I'm not shooting theories down, I am stating another view

3) no one is upset with me...some are disagreeing with me and stating THEIR view...BIG DIFFERENCE....not wise to assume how people u dont know, feel.

ok

1) u dont know me or anything about me so I dont think its wise for u to come in here calling me a bitch, name calling is a little childish, dont ya think?

2) I'm not shooting theories down, I am stating another view

3) no one is upset with me...some are disagreeing with me and stating THEIR view...BIG DIFFERENCE....not wise to assume how people u dont know, feel.

1) I said coming off as one, there is a big difference.

2) Okay, regardless, you don't seem open to any other thought than blaming her somehow, or at least that is how I take it.

3) I didn't specify people being upset with you. I said people were upset and I said perhaps due to your attitude it was inflaming things.

4) Anyway, sorry if I upset you, this is just a really huge issue to me, and I don't appreciate having someone sit there and say things like "you obviously think you know" (what happened to not assuming how people you don't know feel?) with a wink then try to say that isn't condescending. I am just tired and cranky. So again, I am sorry.

1) I said coming off as one, there is a big difference.

2) Okay, regardless, you don't seem open to any other thought than blaming her somehow, or at least that is how I take it.

3) I didn't specify people being upset with you. I said people were upset and I said perhaps due to your attitude it was inflaming things.

4) Anyway, sorry if I upset you, this is just a really huge issue to me, and I don't appreciate having someone sit there and say things like "you obviously think you know" (what happened to not assuming how people you don't know feel?) with a wink then try to say that isn't condescending. I am just tired and cranky. So again, I am sorry.

1) then ur taking it wrong

2) people STILL arent upset, and there is not "attitude"...there is no drama fight going on here...so there is nothing "inflamed"....just because people have different views does not mean they are upset with each other.

3) it WASNT condescending....thats YOUR OWN perception.

1) then ur taking it wrong

2) people STILL arent upset, and there is not "attitude"...there is no drama fight going on here...so there is nothing "inflamed"....just because people have different views does not mean they are upset with each other.

3) it WASNT condescending....thats YOUR OWN perception.

1/2/3) Whatever. I'm over it. I said sorry, and it is obvious we don't see eye-to-eye on anything about this so I'm dropping it. Again, sorry.

Anyway, back to the original post, I just don't see why someone would murder their "mistress". Would you mind perhaps elaborating on why he possibly would have done this, other than reprocussion from his wife because it doesn't seem like they have a solid relationship if she was away from the house long enough for this crime (murder) to take place and start to be "covered up"?

1/2/3) Whatever. I'm over it. I said sorry, and it is obvious we don't see eye-to-eye on anything about this so I'm dropping it. Again, sorry.

Anyway, back to the original post, I just don't see why someone would murder their "mistress". Would you mind perhaps elaborating on why he possibly would have done this, other than reprocussion from his wife because it doesn't seem like they have a solid relationship if she was away from the house long enough for this crime (murder) to take place and start to be "covered up"?

men murder their mistresses all the time...hell, some murder their WIVES because of their mistresses.

The girl was pregnant, I can TOTALLY see him trying to cover up a possible affair. The military doesnt look kindly on adultery....and most people who have affairs are deathly scared of their spouse finding out about it.

I can also totally see the wife finding out and helping him clean up....he was only gone 4 hours before she came forward.

how do u know the wife wasnt in on it?

men murder their mistresses all the time...hell, some murder their WIVES because of their mistresses.

The girl was pregnant, I can TOTALLY see him trying to cover up a possible affair. The military doesnt look kindly on adultery....and most people who have affairs are deathly scared of their spouse finding out about it.

I can also totally see the wife finding out and helping him clean up....he was only gone 4 hours before she came forward.

how do u know the wife wasnt in on it?

I don't know that his wife wasn't in on it, I actually feel like she was from the information released. I mean, why on earth would she not be in her house from December 14 to now without noticing blood everywhere, a shallow grave, etc. I also wonder what she was doing in the 4 hours before she came forward.

What do you think of the "suspicious activity" on the Marine's debit card? The information I got was that a man tried to cover the camera with a rag and withdrew money from the account on the 24th of December. Do you think it was Laurean?

I understand that the military frowns on adultery, but shouldn't he have considered that before cheating? I just get so confused why someone would cover a lesser crime with one that could land them on death row or life as a prison bitch. I guess some people's inner workings just aren't logical. Panic I suppose.

I was going to give my opinion but I can't it hits a little too close to home with me. I hope that she is at peace and I hope that at his trial they remember that she was the victim of this crime and as such is not on trial. I don't really care if she slept with him willingly or not at this point in time it no longer matters. The moment he chose to butcher her is the moment her accusation of rape ceased to matter.

I agree.

I was going to give my opinion but I can't it hits a little too close to home with me. I hope that she is at peace and I hope that at his trial they remember that she was the victim of this crime and as such is not on trial. I don't really care if she slept with him willingly or not at this point in time it no longer matters. The moment he chose to butcher her is the moment her accusation of rape ceased to matter.

I agree! Regardless it she was in fact raped or had an affair that is not the issue. The issue is she and her baby were killed.