I dont want to turn the other thread into a debate, but I still wanna know...

Have you/Will you vaccinate your children? Why/Why not?

I saw on Eli Stone the other day that the little boy became autistic because of his vaccine.

BUT...

At my college they would NOT let me sign up for classes because I wasn't vaccinated from Hep A (supposed to be an optional vaccine), and because my antibodies for measles are absent even though I HAVE been vaccinated.

Schools in general dont let un-vaccinated kids go, so whats your plan?

this will turn into a debate anyway -- just FYI

I vaccinate on schedule because there is no SOLID proof that vaccines cause autism or any other ailment. As (I think Kelsey?) says "correlation does not prove causation"

The risks of NOT vaccinating (which are negligible anyway) outweigh the risks OF vaccinating, IMO.

My kids are fully vaxed and will remain so.

(btw, your kids can go to MOST schools not vaccinated, you just have to have a waiver)

this will turn into a debate anyway -- just FYI

I vaccinate on schedule because there is no SOLID proof that vaccines cause autism or any other ailment. As (I think Kelsey?) says "correlation does not prove causation"

The risks of NOT vaccinating (which are negligible anyway) outweigh the risks OF vaccinating, IMO.

My kids are fully vaxed and will remain so.

(btw, your kids can go to MOST schools not vaccinated, you just have to have a waiver)

Oh. They must have changed it since I was a kid. I got kicked out of 7th grade cos I didnt have hep b, and they would not accept a waiver.

I dont mind it turning into a debate, I just didnt want the thread in the news section to turn to a debate, so i decided to post a new thread

i vaccinate my kids according to the schedule recommended by their pediatrician. i agree with devinn regarding the autism/vaccination issue. there is no proof that the mercury in vaccines causes autism.

for me, i think that i would be irresponsible to not vaccinate my children. it's a preventative measure. i put my kids in carseats to try to keep them safe in case we are ever in an accident...to me vaccination is along the same line, i'm vaccinating them to try to keep them safe in case they ever come in contact with serious illnesses.

the above paragraph was only in reference to ME. the last time this debate came up i pissed off a few people who don't vaccinate. i understand other people have valid reasons NOT to vaccinate so i'm only voicing what i feel i should do.

I vaccinate my son. There is a huge homeschooling population where I live who do not vaccinate, and they had an outbreak a few years ago, when one kid went on a mission trip and brought home a disease (I don't remember which one) and spread it to the other homeschoolers and church kids.

we delay/selectively vax

we delay/selectively vax

may I ask why?

We delay vax. So far Kaia has had no vax's at all, and Wade received up to his 9 month and then we stopped after we did a lot of research. To me, the risks outweigh the benefits. I don't know when we'll vax them fully and they'll never get all the vax's.

may I ask why?

after having done my research i have found that i would rather wait until my daughter's immune system is strong enough to handle all the vaxes. also dd won't be in daycare for awhile so i feel safer in not giving her the vaxes. i also think that some of the vaccines such as the chickenpox vax aren't really necessary being as it is a normal childhood illness. my husband was also extremely sickly as a child and had problems with being sick a lot for months at a time so i would rather wait until she is fully able to fight off any reactions if possible. she will be vaccinated by time she's in school for the vaxes we choose to give her

ETA: thank you for asking respectfully

We delay vax. So far Kaia has had no vax's at all, and Wade received up to his 9 month and then we stopped after we did a lot of research. To me, the risks outweigh the benefits. I don't know when we'll vax them fully and they'll never get all the vax's.

how does getting vax that prevents measles, hep, ect out weigh the child actually getting the disease?

I dont want to turn the other thread into a debate, but I still wanna know...

Have you/Will you vaccinate your children? Why/Why not?

I saw on Eli Stone the other day that the little boy became autistic because of his vaccine.

BUT...

At my college they would NOT let me sign up for classes because I wasn't vaccinated from Hep A (supposed to be an optional vaccine), and because my antibodies for measles are absent even though I HAVE been vaccinated.

Schools in general dont let un-vaccinated kids go, so whats your plan?

actually all but 2 states allow for optional (religious, personal or medical) exemptions for children with no vaxes/delayed vaxed children to go to school. you'd be surprised. a school cannot FORCE you to do any medical treatment for your child.

this will turn into a debate anyway -- just FYI

I vaccinate on schedule because there is no SOLID proof that vaccines cause autism or any other ailment. As (I think Kelsey?) says "correlation does not prove causation"

The risks of NOT vaccinating (which are negligible anyway) outweigh the risks OF vaccinating, IMO.

My kids are fully vaxed and will remain so.

(btw, your kids can go to MOST schools not vaccinated, you just have to have a waiver)

:agree

I also have no issues with those that delay vax.

But this is where I will stop on this subject.:hehe

after having done my research i have found that i would rather wait until my daughter's immune system is strong enough to handle all the vaxes. also dd won't be in daycare for awhile so i feel safer in not giving her the vaxes. i also think that some of the vaccines such as the chickenpox vax aren't really necessary being as it is a normal childhood illness. my husband was also extremely sickly as a child and had problems with being sick a lot for months at a time so i would rather wait until she is fully able to fight off any reactions if possible. she will be vaccinated by time she's in school for the vaxes we choose to give her

ETA: thank you for asking respectfully

I completly understand doing that!!! I guess I just dont understand those who dont want to vax at all, even when their children are older!

I will be doing some serious research on every vaccine and what is in it before I ever give it to a child. I know already I won't be giving any children the chicken pox vaccine. Otherwise, it depends on what is in it. If I don't feel comfortable with it, my child wouldn't get it, and I would sign a waiver.

I will be doing some serious research on every vaccine and what is in it before I ever give it to a child. I know already I won't be giving any children the chicken pox vaccine. Otherwise, it depends on what is in it. If I don't feel comfortable with it, my child wouldn't get it, and I would sign a waiver.

check out The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears. he presents it neither pro nor con he lays out all the information--how the vaxes are made, what's in them, different brands, etc

check out The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears. he presents it neither pro nor con he lays out all the information--how the vaxes are made, what's in them, different brands, etc

AWESOME. Thanks for the recommendation. :tu

Well, if your kids go to a private college then the college can deny your kids the ability to take new classes until they are vaccinated.

If your kids wanted to get vaccinated when they were 17-18 would you try to talk them out of it?

I don't know if I will get flamed for saying this or not.

I have zero issues with people who choose to delay or not vaccinate...BUT....

with the current trend, I think outbreaks will begin to occur more often and therefore we will have to come up with stronger (and possibly more dangerous) vaccines to keep our children healthy.

If someone chooses not to vaccinate or delay, that is totally cool.....but IMO it will eventually hurt more than help.

I don't believe we should trade one possible outbreak (proven only by correlation) or negligible risks for much more dangerous outbreaks and profound risks.

JMO

Well, if your kids go to a private college then the college can deny your kids the ability to take new classes until they are vaccinated.

If your kids wanted to get vaccinated when they were 17-18 would you try to talk them out of it?

yes but at the public school or private school mandatory school level they cannot refuse your child. they can get vaccinated if they choose to when they are old enough to research it. most vaxes actually aren't needed past 1 or 2 years.

ETA: i just wish people would research instead of taking a doctor's word. i fully research medical decisions for myself so why wouldn't i do that for my child. I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYONE DOWN

I don't know if I will get flamed for saying this or not.

I have zero issues with people who choose to delay or not vaccinate...BUT....

with the current trend, I think outbreaks will begin to occur more often and therefore we will have to come up with stronger (and possibly more dangerous) vaccines to keep our children healthy.

If someone chooses not to vaccinate or delay, that is totally cool.....but IMO it will eventually hurt more than help.

I don't believe we should trade one possible outbreak (proven only by correlation) or negligible risks for much more dangerous outbreaks and profound risks.

JMO

That makes a lot of sense to me.

And doesnt the brand of vaccine matter more than the actual vaccine? My boy's dad is a pediatrician, and he gets annoyed because so many people are turning down the vaccines. He talks a lot of them into getting the vaccines, but he really disagrees that ALL vaccine brands should be avoided. He takes the time to make sure his vaccines are safest and get insulted when a parent says "no."

That makes a lot of sense to me.

And doesnt the brand of vaccine matter more than the actual vaccine? My boy's dad is a pediatrician, and he gets annoyed because so many people are turning down the vaccines. He talks a lot of them into getting the vaccines, but he really disagrees that ALL vaccine brands should be avoided. He takes the time to make sure his vaccines are safest and get insulted when a parent says "no."

Some brands are generally trusted more than others, yes.

different brands are made differently some are "purer" than others

Bailey will get all her vaccinations on time. I have NO issue with parents that choose to delay. However,personally I think it is highly irresponsible for parents not to vaccinate at all. Those parents will be the reason we will see polio come back, thats the reason we will start seeing mumps,measels and rubella again. Not vaccing is why we will start to see more kids dying from obsolete diseases that they had NO reason to contract. But thats JMO and no offense and all that.

I vaccinate my daughter, but we don't do flu shots and I wish I hadn't done the chicken pox vaccination (but they said I should since I haven't had chicken pox and if she got it full-blown I would likely get it far worse) other than that, she is up to date and will remain so. I think you can find correlation in almost anything. That doesn't prove cause and effect. I don't believe that vaccinations cause autism. But that's just my opinion.

Bailey will get all her vaccinations on time. I have NO issue with parents that choose to delay. However,personally I think it is highly irresponsible for parents not to vaccinate at all. Those parents will be the reason we will see polio come back, thats the reason we will start seeing mumps,measels and rubella again. Not vaccing is why we will start to see more kids dying from obsolete diseases that they had NO reason to contract. But thats JMO and no offense and all that.

I have to agree...

I'm young and won't have kids for at least 5 more years, but I know that I'll vaccinate my kids against the more serious diseases, but chicken pox? eh, its a life experience to get those cute little pictures of you covered in that pink ointment stuff (i know DB has some.. :teehee saw them over christmas) and other newer vaccinations that don't have much history to them.. those i'm a little wary about... but i'll probably do most of the vaccinations

I never had a problem, wouldn't see any reason not to do the same thing for my kids as I had done to me. Medicine has gotten a lot better over the years. I'll vax.

after having done my research i have found that i would rather wait until my daughter's immune system is strong enough to handle all the vaxes. also dd won't be in daycare for awhile so i feel safer in not giving her the vaxes. i also think that some of the vaccines such as the chickenpox vax aren't really necessary being as it is a normal childhood illness. my husband was also extremely sickly as a child and had problems with being sick a lot for months at a time so i would rather wait until she is fully able to fight off any reactions if possible. she will be vaccinated by time she's in school for the vaxes we choose to give her

ETA: thank you for asking respectfully

all good points... :agree

I'm doing selective & delaying.

My own personal decisions from the research I've done.

i'm going to keep my mouth shut on this one, other than to say i agree with devinn and lissa. and that if/when we have kids, they will get their vaccinations.

I agree with all the girls who posted about research and delaying. I have a few friends who have had kids and chose not to vaccinate at all, ever.... and I don't know if I'd go that far, but I really want to know EXACTLY what it is I will be putting in my kids bodies before I will go through with it.

Also, my brother has ceberal palsy, and I used to volunteer with a lot of his classes, etc., and many of the parents of the kids with autism, and other unexpilicable degenerative diseases were convinced it was from getting them vaccinated.

Is this a recent thing that parents dont give kids vaccines, or have they done it since the dawn of vaccines?

My kids have all been vaccinated on time. Thats all Im going to say

Bailey will get all her vaccinations on time. I have NO issue with parents that choose to delay. However,personally I think it is highly irresponsible for parents not to vaccinate at all. Those parents will be the reason we will see polio come back, thats the reason we will start seeing mumps,measels and rubella again. Not vaccing is why we will start to see more kids dying from obsolete diseases that they had NO reason to contract. But thats JMO and no offense and all that.

Yeah ditto and I agree. Ethan is up to date and Ashley is up to date. I have no issues with delaying and heck I even did. They wanted to give her the MMR today AND the chicken pox one today and I told them no. I told em they could do the MMR today and do the chicken pox at 18 months.

Not to sound stupid but...

Delay til when?

Is this a recent thing that parents dont give kids vaccines, or have they done it since the dawn of vaccines?

I think when many vaccines were first introduced, everyone wanted them because of the amount of disease going around. Now, many of those diseases are supposed to be totally dormant in society, and as a result, people think the active things in the vaccinations are causing other problems...

Well. I never even really thought of this before.
I got all of mine growing up...and I hated it. But I'm still alive and haven't gotten any deadly diseases. :lol
The flu shot made me VERY sick this year, and never has before. Maybe it's because I was pregnant when I got it? I think I will delay/selectively vaccinate my son. But we'll see.

Not to sound stupid but...

Delay til when?

I have no problem with the ones that choose to delay by a few months. Most that decide to delay end up with all their vaccx by around age 5 I think. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Not to sound stupid but...

Delay til when?

we will delay till at least 6 months maybe a year

I have no problem with the ones that choose to delay by a few months. Most that decide to delay end up with all their vaccx by around age 5 I think. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

You are right. The majority that I have seen and heard of that delay vax. The kids are caught up on all required vax's by the time the child starts school, which is 5 in most states.

My sis had to get the chicken pox vaccine when she was 3 days old because the day they were going to bring her home my little bro came down with the chicken pox. They didnt want him to even be in the same room as her even after she got vaccinated.

I think when I have kids they will get all the recommended cos you never know when they will be exposed...but getting a chicken pox vaccination does seem silly to me.

Like I stated in the other thread I will not give a booster to Annabelle due to the horrible allergic reaction she had to it. The dr that I now go to said we could do a titer(sp) on it when its time for the booster to see if it took. I know it was shot related because she had blood tests to make sure it wasn't related to food. My 7 yr old had a bad reaction to the DTP shot, but I know since then they have changed it. Im for delaying them, and I don't think I will do the flu shot for the baby again. My sister her is a bio research person said that for her its not necessary.

I agree with Jill, all well said. We vaxed on time, but if I had it to do over, we would have delayed.

I agree with Jill, all well said. We vaxed on time, but if I had it to do over, we would have delayed.

aww thanks :)

This just reflects MY child, so, DD is fully vaxed, on time. The only one she will not be receiving is the chicken pox vax.

Like I stated in the other thread I will not give a booster to Annabelle due to the horrible allergic reaction she had to it. The dr that I now go to said we could do a titer(sp) on it when its time for the booster to see if it took. I know it was shot related because she had blood tests to make sure it wasn't related to food. My 7 yr old had a bad reaction to the DTP shot, but I know since then they have changed it. Im for delaying them, and I don't think I will do the flu shot for the baby again. My sister her is a bio research person said that for her its not necessary.



I am the same way about the flu shot.....there are too many types of flu out there so IMO why cover for a couple when the possibility of getting the others are still there.


As far as vaxing...we do all on time. The only ones I will wait on are the new one for HPV and the one for meningitis, those are ones that I would rather wait until I know more and learn more about these 2...and this is on the advice of my dd's doctor...ofcourse she has a while before the HPV but the meningitis one is looming close for kids also