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flangl18
02-07-2008, 06:21 PM
AP
Senate Passes Stimulus Plan
Thursday February 7, 5:25 pm ET
By Andrew Taylor and Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writers
Senate Approves Economic Aid Plan With Rebates for Older People, Disabled Veterans

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Senate passed an economic rescue plan Thursday that would speed $600 to $1,200 in rebates to most taxpayers and $300 checks to low-income people, including disabled veterans and the elderly.
The 81-16 vote capped more than a week of political maneuvering that ended only when majority Democrats dropped their demand that the proposal offer jobless benefits, heating aid for the poor and tax breaks for certain industries.

GOP senators blocked those ideas, but agreed to add the rebates for older people and disabled veterans to a $161 billion measure the House passed last month.

House leaders said they would act as early as Thursday night to send the measure to President Bush.

The Senate plan would rush rebates -- $600 for individuals, $1,200 for couples -- to most taxpayers and cut business taxes in hopes of reviving the economy. Individuals making up to $75,000 a year and couples earning up to $150,000 would get rebates.

People who paid no income taxes but earned at least $3,000 -- including through Social Security or veterans' disability benefits -- would get a $300 rebate.

If the House follows suit as expected and Bush shortly thereafter signs the measure, the rebate checks would be expected to begin arriving in May. The rebates would be based on 2007 tax returns, which are not due until April 15.

The bill had stalled for more than a week in the Senate. The turnaround came after Democrats fell just one vote short Wednesday of overcoming a GOP filibuster and pressing ahead with their $205 billion plan.

Democrats decided on Thursday against insisting on their package. Instead, they agreed to speed the bipartisan measure, costing about $167 billion, to Bush.

"It's our responsibility to pass the strongest bill that we can, and so I think it's tremendous what we'll be able to accomplish," said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. "We had to finish this quickly."

The retreat came after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sided with Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. Pelosi, D-Calif., urged the Senate to stop its infighting and pass the bill.

"There's no reason for any more delay on this," Pelosi said.

Thirty-three Republicans joined 46 Democrats and the Senate's two independents to pass the measure. Sixteen Republicans voted against the plan.

Reid defended his decision to try to pressure Republicans on the larger proposal by offering it as a take-it-or-leave-it proposition along with the rebates for older people and veterans. "I feel very strongly that we did the right thing," Reid said.

Democrats said Republicans would pay a political price for their opposition. The more expensive proposal would have extended unemployment for 13 weeks for people whose benefits had run out; added $1 billion in heating aid for the poor; and provided tax breaks for the home-building, renewable energy and coal industries.

"If today (Republicans) are squirming because they voted 'no,' that's what democracy is all about," said New York Sen. Charles Schumer, the head of the Senate Democratic campaign committee. "The political chips will fall where they may."

But Democratic Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said: "Discretion is the better part of valor. The best thing for us to do is declare a big victory that we've achieved, namely getting the rebate checks to 20 million seniors and 250,000 disabled veterans."

The measure moved through Congress with remarkable speed amid a series of deflating economic reports. Some Republicans, however, expressed reservations that the rebate checks would help much. Other lawmakers worried about expanding the budget deficit.

"We have to remember that every dollar being spent on the stimulus package is being borrowed from our children. And our children's children," said Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., who voted against the bill.

Miss B Hav'n
02-07-2008, 06:35 PM
I am glad to see it has come through as a more inclusive plan (though I still question the logic of it in the first place). I did notice that there is no mention of the additional $300 per child that was in the original plan - I wonder if that was phased out in favor of extending the benefits to the others not previously included or just not mentioned in this article?

rcwant2be
02-07-2008, 10:05 PM
oh sweet...it's 2007 taxes, so i'll be getting $600. if they used 06 taxes i would have gotten only $300.

my gma will be excited...she'll be getting $300, even tho she pays no taxes.

rosebud*
02-07-2008, 10:14 PM
I am glad to see it has come through as a more inclusive plan (though I still question the logic of it in the first place). I did notice that there is no mention of the additional $300 per child that was in the original plan - I wonder if that was phased out in favor of extending the benefits to the others not previously included or just not mentioned in this article?
I was wondering the same thing.

rcwant2be
02-07-2008, 10:16 PM
I was wondering the same thing.

yes, there's an additional $300 per child.

see this cnn article
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/07/congress.economy/index.html

Fidzy
02-07-2008, 11:06 PM
Not being a tax expert, I'm confused how this will affect me since I was self-employed for the first time last year, so I had to save up to pay my income taxes now. It says I'll get a $300 rebate, so I guess that's pretty cool :)

EmeraldEyes
02-07-2008, 11:13 PM
I'm glad it went through, but I'm still confuzzled over the consequences of it next year. Are we going to have the amount deducted off of next years returns, or will it be like last time and we will claim it as income and just pay taxes on it??

rcwant2be
02-07-2008, 11:17 PM
I'm glad it went through, but I'm still confuzzled over the consequences of it next year. Are we going to have the amount deducted off of next years returns, or will it be like last time and we will claim it as income and just pay taxes on it??

this is what cnn money says

"The rebate is not taxable at the federal level, and it's unlikely the states would tax it, though that's not entirely clear at this point"

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/stimulus-package-means-you/story.aspx?guid=%7B76E54831-A58D-42A6-9A35-98D327C037D4%7D

vivalacrap
02-07-2008, 11:21 PM
ha ha ha ha ha. Hilarious. I am totally boycotting the economy. Yeah for my thousands in medical bills. I guess they will be a couple bucks less now.

EmeraldEyes
02-07-2008, 11:24 PM
this is what cnn money says

"The rebate is not taxable at the federal level, and it's unlikely the states would tax it, though that's not entirely clear at this point"

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/stimulus-package-means-you/story.aspx?guid=%7B76E54831-A58D-42A6-9A35-98D327C037D4%7D

Ok, that makes sense, but are they going to treat it like an advance on next years projected returns?? KWIM??? Like if DH and I get the 1200, and we get say 3000 back next year, are they going to deduct 1200 from that because of what we got in the rebate??:arg I'm a college graduate, but a total moron when it comes to the IRS!!!

Theresa
02-08-2008, 07:35 AM
With two kids we should potentially see $1,800 then?

Miss B Hav'n
02-08-2008, 08:42 AM
With two kids we should potentially see $1,800 then?

That's the way I'm reading it - we have two kids and that is what I came up with from the articles I have seen:dunno

mossey2000
02-08-2008, 08:47 AM
aww they're so sweet to pay off a credit card for me.

kittycat915
02-08-2008, 09:14 AM
aww they're so sweet to pay off a credit card for me.

lol...me too.:P plus,the leftover is going towards our disney trip!!!!:cp:D

Theresa
02-08-2008, 09:16 AM
Ours is still going to a 42" LCD tv. :rofl

mossey2000
02-08-2008, 09:23 AM
ooh I want an LCD tv. wanna share?!?

Theresa
02-08-2008, 09:26 AM
Absolutely. :lol

I'm hoping he finds one for around $1200 that he likes because I REALLY want to use the rest for my speedlite flash (if I don't buy it before then). :lol

froglove
02-08-2008, 09:31 AM
We are taking that money(1800 since we have two kids) and going to dh's national truck meet in Detroit :rolleyes:whoopdedoo

Cat
02-08-2008, 09:33 AM
well we will be using that money to fund our trip back to VA for our house hunting leave. So I really dont care how crappy a plan it was but I am just glad we are getting some extra money back.

Amanda
02-08-2008, 09:43 AM
We will be getting $2100 all together this year. It is $600 for each of us then Austin is $300 and it is based on 2007 taxes and we get to claim 2 of his girls so an extra $600!! :yahoo Taxes are getting us out of debt so we'll have the $2100 for something we want and for savings I can't wait :yahoo :yay

flangl18
02-08-2008, 10:11 AM
$2100 here and it is all going in the bank so it can turn into more.

rosebud*
02-08-2008, 10:16 AM
Ok, that makes sense, but are they going to treat it like an advance on next years projected returns?? KWIM??? Like if DH and I get the 1200, and we get say 3000 back next year, are they going to deduct 1200 from that because of what we got in the rebate??:arg I'm a college graduate, but a total moron when it comes to the IRS!!!
I don't think so, I don't think it has any effect on next years taxes. However I could be completely wrong so don't take my word for it. But from what I have read about it, it is just extra money they are throwing at us.

If we do get it, we will get 2100 :woot
that means a new TV ( a really nice one too.) and maybe a new camera for me.:D

mossey2000
02-08-2008, 10:50 AM
Absolutely. :lol

I'm hoping he finds one for around $1200 that he likes because I REALLY want to use the rest for my speedlite flash (if I don't buy it before then). :lol

Ive seen them for around 900 lately. Good luck!

mossey2000
02-08-2008, 10:51 AM
We are taking that money(1800 since we have two kids) and going to dh's national truck meet in Detroit :rolleyes:whoopdedoo

I'll go to Detroit in your place! Are ya'll staying IN Detroit or outside of there? DH is from there.

wb3690
02-08-2008, 01:52 PM
we're doing one of two things with it.....
1. bank it
2. pad the kid's college funds...I mean it's like we're getting a boost and I think it would be a good place for the money as well.

Donna
02-08-2008, 01:59 PM
We will be getting $2400, since they are using 2007 taxes. Ours is going in the savings account to pay for the IVF:D

Rileysmom
02-08-2008, 02:00 PM
I don't think so, I don't think it has any effect on next years taxes. However I could be completely wrong so don't take my word for it. But from what I have read about it, it is just extra money they are throwing at us.

If we do get it, we will get 2100 :woot
that means a new TV ( a really nice one too.) and maybe a new camera for me.:D

Yeah, that's what I need to know too... if it's coming out of next years, then I am putting it on our car payment to pay that much less interest.

If it's just "free money", then we are using it for our road trip this summer.

Also, how do you get it? Will it automatically be sent? Do you have to file it as part of your taxes? :confuzzle TIA!

USCGBoxerMom
02-08-2008, 02:05 PM
I don't think so, I don't think it has any effect on next years taxes. However I could be completely wrong so don't take my word for it. But from what I have read about it, it is just extra money they are throwing at us.

The last time they did this you had to claim the money on your taxes the following year. I am sure they will do the same again this time.

Honestly....I don't think the Government is going to hand out free money with out wanting something in return.

Cat
02-08-2008, 02:08 PM
Its a shame they have a limit on the 300 per child. I thought I read somewhere that there was a limit of 3 kids. I could be totally wrong but thats what I thought I read.

Donna
02-08-2008, 02:11 PM
Its a shame they have a limit on the 300 per child. I thought I read somewhere that there was a limit of 3 kids. I could be totally wrong but thats what I thought I read.

I havent seen that :thinking going to search the net

Cat
02-08-2008, 02:45 PM
I havent seen that :thinking going to search the net

Well let me know if what I read was right or not.

rosebud*
02-08-2008, 02:48 PM
Yeah, that's what I need to know too... if it's coming out of next years, then I am putting it on our car payment to pay that much less interest.

If it's just "free money", then we are using it for our road trip this summer.

Also, how do you get it? Will it automatically be sent? Do you have to file it as part of your taxes? :confuzzle TIA!

I believe it is either coming in check form or they might do if you had direct deposit with your taxes then that is how you will receive it.
Sometimes I wish things would be clear and concise.

Loretta
02-08-2008, 02:51 PM
I already filed and got a return...did I miss the boat? :puzz

Donna
02-08-2008, 02:53 PM
I already filed and got a return...did I miss the boat? :puzz

no this is supposed to happen in May or June, if the timetable is still the same.

Miss B Hav'n
02-08-2008, 02:56 PM
I already filed and got a return...did I miss the boat? :puzz

This is separate from the 2007 tax returns you files -this is a tax "rebate" which will be paid separately.

Cat
02-08-2008, 02:58 PM
oh and Donna I was looking online and I cant find anything that says there is a limit for the 300 per child. I was probably wrong about that. But I could have sworn that either I read it on another board or in another article. But oh well I guess we will all find out soon enough.

Loretta
02-08-2008, 02:58 PM
Thanks, ladies!! :thumbsup

Sort of like the thing they tried back in 2002? I remember getting a check for $8. :lol

rosebud*
02-08-2008, 03:00 PM
I posted a news article about how it will work. it's in this forum. :D

Cat
02-08-2008, 03:28 PM
thanks Michelle. I saw it.

wb3690
02-08-2008, 03:31 PM
I believe it is either coming in check form or they might do if you had direct deposit with your taxes then that is how you will receive it.
Sometimes I wish things would be clear and concise.


I know the last time they did this everyone was mailed a check. I know we've always done direct deposit on our taxes and that year we got that rebate we also got a separate check.

It could take time to get it though........I wouldn't freak if someone else gets theirs before any of you. I remember last year they mailed them alphabetically correct? also didn't the space out the mailings? they weren't one big mailing......

CAmom4721
02-08-2008, 04:22 PM
So excited. We should be seeing $1500 and we are paying off an old loan and a credit card. Good riddance debt! Don't let the door hit ya... So happy. :D