Do you read about the canidates families, but most importantly their spouses?

I was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy shocked when I read about mccains wife on wikipedia.

Not sooo much. I don't think McCain's wife has anything to do with his foreign policy, thoughts on taxes, etc.

Do you know she stole drugs from a medical thing she set up? And was convicted for it? She also had to go to rehab for drug abuse.

Do you know she stole drugs from a medical thing she set up? And was convicted for it? She also had to go to rehab for drug abuse.

I saw her on an interview recently and she talked breifly about having her addiction. Sounds like she is doing good now though. People do and can make mistakes and move on and live their life normally after.

i'm not sure i'd believe everything on wikipedia. :thinking
but i don't bother too much with candidates' families unless it has something to do with their campaign. It's hard to ignore Bill CLinton. And John Edwards brought his wife into his because of his cancer fundraiser. otherwise, i dont really bother.

Do you know she stole drugs from a medical thing she set up? And was convicted for it? She also had to go to rehab for drug abuse.

Yes but I don't think that reflect on John McCain as a future president.

My question for the debate is, do you think that their families play a role? Like someone just mentioned Edwards.

My question for the debate is, do you think that their families play a role? Like someone just mentioned Edwards.

Well, some candidates choose for them to play a role in the race for Presidency. Personally, I think that's distracting, and maybe that's what they intend, I don't know. I think some spouses will play more of a role if they were to be the First Lady or First Gentleman (?) and I think you can sort of tell who would be more involved and who wouldn't. It doesn't worry me too much.

Well, some candidates choose for them to play a role in the race for Presidency. Personally, I think that's distracting, and maybe that's what they intend, I don't know. I think some spouses will play more of a role if they were to be the First Lady or First Gentleman (?) and I think you can sort of tell who would be more involved and who wouldn't. It doesn't worry me too much.

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The only times it's ever concerned me were with Kerry's wife. She just didn't seem trustworthy to me, and she seemed like she was playing Kerry's puppet strings. JMO. And Clinton - I don't want a Clinton dynasty, so his role as first spouse definitely gives me something to think about.

Usually though, I don't worry too much about the spouse.

Thank you!!! I agree.
Yes but I don't think that reflect on John McCain as a future president.

My question for the debate is, do you think that their families play a role? Like someone just mentioned Edwards. Im sorry but NO. People are people. So many have this fantasy that our President and his/her family need to be white as snow. That is absolutely ridiculous. Cant people EVEN IN leadership roles have difficulties in life?? They are human. What I feel is more important... the LESSONS learned from the difficulties.

I agree that the role is as minimal or expanded as they want it to be for the most part. I also think that if people are going to hold people accountable for mistakes in thier past, they ought to look at different factors - were they apoligetic, did they learn from thier mistakes, etc.
Some spouses are forced in your face so to speak - i.e. Bill Clinton. Others are not.

I dont think it's a bad thing. I think if he were to win. That is something that she can use. She "knows" firsthand how hard breaking an addiction is. Maybe she can come up with better ways for those that want to get clean to do so.

Just thinking out loud....:lol

I dont think it's a bad thing. I think if he were to win. That is something that she can use. She "knows" firsthand how hard breaking an addiction is. Maybe she can come up with better ways for those that want to get clean to do so.

Just thinking out loud....:lol
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I dont think it's a bad thing. I think if he were to win. That is something that she can use. She "knows" firsthand how hard breaking an addiction is. Maybe she can come up with better ways for those that want to get clean to do so.

Just thinking out loud....:lol

Betty Ford used her addictions to start the clinic and speak out about addictions.

I dont think it's a bad thing. I think if he were to win. That is something that she can use. She "knows" firsthand how hard breaking an addiction is. Maybe she can come up with better ways for those that want to get clean to do so.

Just thinking out loud....:lol

Betty Ford used her addictions to start the clinic and speak out about addictions.



:yes very well said!!!


It's not like she is out there on the news and talking to people making him look a fool. SHe is just a person who happens to be a wife of a man who wants to be President :yes

If anything I would say her past humanizes her which is not a bad thing at all...it's something that many can relate to

It seems to me to be a double standard. If it is Bill Clinton, then yes, it matters, but no one else matters.

John McCain cheated on his first wife (she stood by him when he was a POW), he left her while she was on death's door in the hospital.

But, Bill Clinton gets a BJ but doesn't turn his older model in for a trophey and he gets crucified.

Not much consistency.

I saw her on an interview recently and she talked breifly about having her addiction. Sounds like she is doing good now though. People do and can make mistakes and move on and live their life normally after.


:agree Nobody is perfect and I'm sure we can all say that there are things in our past that we wish we hadn't done. But as long as she learned from it and grew from it who cares.

I think the dif between Bill Clinton and McCain's wife is that Bill is all up in it, and his wife is not. I think that's the point everyone is making?

I think the dif between Bill Clinton and McCain's wife is that Bill is all up in it, and his wife is not. I think that's the point everyone is making?


Exactly :yes

Thinkof it in these terms...people had a lot to say about Kerry's wife, she put herself out there the WHOLE campaign. Sounds like Bill Clinton is doing the same thing....if they are always right there doing this and saying that then people will look at them in a different light...it would be harder to humanize them IMO

Exactly :yes

Thinkof it in these terms...people had a lot to say about Kerry's wife, she put herself out there the WHOLE campaign. Sounds like Bill Clinton is doing the same thing....if they are always right there doing this and saying that then people will look at them in a different light...it would be harder to humanize them IMO

Exactly. I honestly havent heard one thing about McCain's wife anywhere!!! This is the first I have heard anything about her.

Exactly. I honestly havent heard one thing about McCain's wife anywhere!!! This is the first I have heard anything about her.

And, the bad stuff is probably the reason why.

You know, I don't think spouses will change anyone's minds on candidates. If you like them, then you will rationalize the spouse's shortcomings, if you dislike them, you will vilify them for their spouse's shortcomings. That is what I am seeing in this thread.

Exactly. I honestly havent heard one thing about McCain's wife anywhere!!! This is the first I have heard anything about her.

I finally saw her on the Today show recently. She was open and honest about things from the past. She said if she becomes first lady she will find her place, but it will not be such a public role.

And, the bad stuff is probably the reason why.

You know, I don't think spouses will change anyone's minds on candidates. If you like them, then you will rationalize the spouse's shortcomings, if you dislike them, you will vilify them for their spouse's shortcomings. That is what I am seeing in this thread.

I dont see that. I flat didnt like Bill when he was in office and I still dont like him. I also didnt like Hillary when she was first lady and I still dont like her.

Everybody has things in their past that they are not proud of. At least she isnt denying it to anyone and has overcome it.

And, the bad stuff is probably the reason why.

You know, I don't think spouses will change anyone's minds on candidates. If you like them, then you will rationalize the spouse's shortcomings, if you dislike them, you will vilify them for their spouse's shortcomings. That is what I am seeing in this thread.

I don't think thats 100% true for everyone

If McCains wife was putting herself out there then I wouldn't rationalize at all, this is an election...I would rather concentrate on what each candidate has to offer than worry about what their spouse will do/say next.