View Full Version : What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America??


Jen
04-02-2008, 12:27 PM
I saw this posted it on another board and thought I would here too to see what peoples thoughts on it are.

What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?

Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament" -- 10/25/07.

She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver. Hernandez said, "They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?" That's a good question - it deserves an answer.
Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?
The answers may surprise you!

In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico,it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.

In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grand-kids - would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico. That would save Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone. Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent
drop-out/flunk-out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our grid-locked cities in Colorado.

Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and English.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.
If 20 million illegal aliens returned'home',the U.S. Economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401 Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for local, state and city coffers.

No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in American schools that now must contend with over 10 0 languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.

In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th street Gang ' would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!
Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!

America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.

At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing US $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.
Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our greenhouse gases.
Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what the New York Times called, "colonias" or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation. The New York Times reported them to be America's new "Third World" inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.
We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a million people into our country legally more than all other countries combined annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation.
It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of life.

Interesting Statistics. Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should
vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:

1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine, and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border.
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publications.php?b=deportation

13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!"
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!

If this doesn't bother you, then just delete the message.
Otherwise, forward this to everyone you know!

sdshorty
04-02-2008, 12:34 PM
LMAO, I consider that entire article to be 100% B.S. I suppose they 'accidently' lef out the little details, such as the fact that those 20 million people contribute to the economy DAILY as well. Just because someone doesn't have their own SS #, does mean they don't purchase things, doesn't mean they dont pay taxes (MILLIONS do under false SS #'s just so they can work), they fill jobs that noone else will do, etc etc. So what if all of a sudden those millions and billions of dollars those 20 Million immigrants pump INTO society suddenly goes away? What if the millions of dollars in taxes they do pay, suddenly goes away, what if the millions of jobs they fill daily suddenly goes away? Can we say recesion? But of course these people conveniently forgot to report THAT side of the story :rolleyes

glass1/2full
04-02-2008, 12:36 PM
Interesting...thanks for sharing.

Germanchick
04-02-2008, 12:37 PM
LMAO, I consider that entire article to be 100% B.S. I suppose they 'accidently' lef out the little details, such as the fact that those 20 million people contribute to the economy DAILY as well. Just because someone doesn't have their own SS #, does mean they don't purchase things, doesn't mean they dont pay taxes (MILLIONS do under false SS #'s just so they can work), they fill jobs that noone else will do, etc etc. So what if all of a sudden those millions and billions of dollars those 20 Million immigrants pump INTO society suddenly goes away? What if the millions of dollars in taxes they do pay, suddenly goes away, what if the millions of jobs they fill daily suddenly goes away? Can we say recesion? But of course these people conveniently forgot to report THAT side of the story :rolleyes

:yes They also forget that the children of these people oftentimes are born here and hence are US citizens. What should be done about those kids? Put into foster care or orphanages? Go 'back' to a country that is completely foreign to them?

Wicked
04-02-2008, 01:24 PM
LMAO, I consider that entire article to be 100% B.S. I suppose they 'accidently' lef out the little details, such as the fact that those 20 million people contribute to the economy DAILY as well. Just because someone doesn't have their own SS #, does mean they don't purchase things, doesn't mean they dont pay taxes (MILLIONS do under false SS #'s just so they can work), they fill jobs that noone else will do, etc etc. So what if all of a sudden those millions and billions of dollars those 20 Million immigrants pump INTO society suddenly goes away? What if the millions of dollars in taxes they do pay, suddenly goes away, what if the millions of jobs they fill daily suddenly goes away? Can we say recesion? But of course these people conveniently forgot to report THAT side of the story :rolleyes

Exactly. :lol The whole thing is a load of one sided bologna.

Green~Mammy
04-02-2008, 01:43 PM
LMAO, I consider that entire article to be 100% B.S. I suppose they 'accidently' lef out the little details, such as the fact that those 20 million people contribute to the economy DAILY as well. Just because someone doesn't have their own SS #, does mean they don't purchase things, doesn't mean they dont pay taxes (MILLIONS do under false SS #'s just so they can work), they fill jobs that noone else will do, etc etc. So what if all of a sudden those millions and billions of dollars those 20 Million immigrants pump INTO society suddenly goes away? What if the millions of dollars in taxes they do pay, suddenly goes away, what if the millions of jobs they fill daily suddenly goes away? Can we say recesion? But of course these people conveniently forgot to report THAT side of the story :rolleyes

:yes

:yes They also forget that the children of these people oftentimes are born here and hence are US citizens. What should be done about those kids? Put into foster care or orphanages? Go 'back' to a country that is completely foreign to them?

:yes

Exactly. :lol The whole thing is a load of one sided bologna.

:yes :giggle

TheHeartOfOrion
04-02-2008, 04:00 PM
LMAO, I consider that entire article to be 100% B.S. I suppose they 'accidently' lef out the little details, such as the fact that those 20 million people contribute to the economy DAILY as well. Just because someone doesn't have their own SS #, does mean they don't purchase things, doesn't mean they dont pay taxes (MILLIONS do under false SS #'s just so they can work), they fill jobs that noone else will do, etc etc. So what if all of a sudden those millions and billions of dollars those 20 Million immigrants pump INTO society suddenly goes away? What if the millions of dollars in taxes they do pay, suddenly goes away, what if the millions of jobs they fill daily suddenly goes away? Can we say recesion? But of course these people conveniently forgot to report THAT side of the story :rolleyes

My only problem with your statement I bolded. I know people (currently 112 counting friends of friends) that can't get a job because the positions are all filled by illegals. They have been searching for weeks to well over a year.

Airman's.Reina
04-02-2008, 04:03 PM
LMAO, I consider that entire article to be 100% B.S. I suppose they 'accidently' lef out the little details, such as the fact that those 20 million people contribute to the economy DAILY as well. Just because someone doesn't have their own SS #, does mean they don't purchase things, doesn't mean they dont pay taxes (MILLIONS do under false SS #'s just so they can work), they fill jobs that noone else will do, etc etc. So what if all of a sudden those millions and billions of dollars those 20 Million immigrants pump INTO society suddenly goes away? What if the millions of dollars in taxes they do pay, suddenly goes away, what if the millions of jobs they fill daily suddenly goes away? Can we say recesion? But of course these people conveniently forgot to report THAT side of the story :rolleyes

:agree

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Lckychrmzz
04-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Theres a movie that shows the affect it would have if all the Mexican immigrants in California were to just vanish. They vanished in a "fog". I cant for the life of me remember the name. Its an eye opener.

Valkyrie
04-02-2008, 04:16 PM
Theres a movie that shows the affect it would have if all the Mexican immigrants in California were to just vanish. They vanished in a "fog". I cant for the life of me remember the name. Its an eye opener.

A day without a Mexican

rosebud*
04-02-2008, 04:18 PM
LMAO, I consider that entire article to be 100% B.S. I suppose they 'accidently' lef out the little details, such as the fact that those 20 million people contribute to the economy DAILY as well. Just because someone doesn't have their own SS #, does mean they don't purchase things, doesn't mean they dont pay taxes (MILLIONS do under false SS #'s just so they can work), they fill jobs that noone else will do, etc etc. So what if all of a sudden those millions and billions of dollars those 20 Million immigrants pump INTO society suddenly goes away? What if the millions of dollars in taxes they do pay, suddenly goes away, what if the millions of jobs they fill daily suddenly goes away? Can we say recesion? But of course these people conveniently forgot to report THAT side of the story :rolleyes
:yes :agree :hail

Lckychrmzz
04-02-2008, 04:29 PM
A day without a Mexican

That's it!

SIMMYBABEZ
04-02-2008, 04:30 PM
This shit makes me angry, not reading it.

Sometimes- there is more behind a story than what meets the eye.

Something to think about I guess.

leanne
04-02-2008, 04:47 PM
this article is 100% one sided and obviously written by a prejudice and very ignorant idiot. and as far as jobs go i do not know many people actively looking for farm work and under the table maid work that are americans along with lets see day laborers ( the temporary kind) etc...... i worked those jobs and they are extremely hard and do not pay much at all its sad really. i hate it when people say that they are stealing our jobs when 90% of them are not stealing anything they are doing hard and low paying and very temporary jobs that not many others will even bother to look at let alone take on.

Shaky
04-02-2008, 04:49 PM
It totally irritates me how whoever wrote this makes sure to mention Mexicans. Mexicans are not the only illegal immigrants in this Country.
Where were they when they were hiring at this places where they say are filled by Mexicans?
You will have to forget about pressing #1 for Spanish? try just calling a CS number to speak in English and you will see how a lot of this companies' CS are based in a different Country. IMO that was a very racist, degrading, generalised article by someone that obviously is very annoyed by Mexicans.

silent_earth
04-02-2008, 04:55 PM
Typically statements made on a .com website don't hold much credibility. If someone wants to make their point viable, they should get their information from accredited sources.

Airman's.Reina
04-02-2008, 04:56 PM
It totally irritates me how whoever wrote this makes sure to mention Mexicans. Mexicans are not the only illegal immigrants in this Country.
Where were they when they were hiring at this places where they say are filled by Mexicans?
You will have to forget about pressing #1 for Spanish? try just calling a CS number to speak in English and you will see how a lot of this companies' CS are based in a different Country. IMO that was a very racist, degrading, generalised article by someone that obviously is very annoyed by Mexicans.

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eelo
04-02-2008, 05:57 PM
Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

What? OMG!!!!!

I, personally, do not feel terrorized by illegal aliens. Yes, it's true- I'm trying to make a living just like they are. I'm just trying to help my family have a good life, just like they are.

Good gawd. Talk about paranoid!!!!!

BuBBleHeadWifE03
04-03-2008, 12:19 PM
My grandmother is Cuban legally here as well as her children and they don't speak English so what makes this person think that banishing 20 million illegal aliens would get rid of Spanish? Many legal immigrants don't speak English and this country. Also this article mentions MS-13 the gang as "Mexicans" when actually MS-13 is a salvadorian gang... Interesting

MamaMia
04-03-2008, 12:50 PM
I love that movie. :lol That article is a load of BS.

Cassaundra
04-03-2008, 12:57 PM
yeah and while we are at it, why don't we just burn all our books,shave our heads, and live in the mountains, cutting off all bar codes from food? that story sounds about as rediculous as all that.

Ghedi
04-03-2008, 02:28 PM
Let me see... If 20 million people left the US...

The typical illegal immigrant who I've talked to (they're not "aliens," they don't have green skin, 4 inch wide eyes, or space ships) works for about $3/hour.

The work that they provide has to be done... Absolutely has to. We're talking about growing food, repairing roads and buildings, and ensuring our sanitation. In a city of 200,000 people and more, sanitation is vital. Heck, in a city of 1,000 people, sanitation is vital.

If the cost of growing food suddenly had to include minimum wage for the workers, the cost of food would double with two weeks.

Keep in mind, that's the cost of food that the grocery stores have to pay... With the shortage of food that would arise, the corporations can, and will, raise the costs to the consumers even more, simply to match supply and demand. I would not be surprised if food would cost the average family about 10 times what it currently costs.

If you pay $200 per month in groceries, that would go to $2,000 per month.

And, that's just the immediate, short term effect of the illegal immigrants leaving.

If every illegal immigrant left, there would be a lot of rental properties empty, which means that there would be a lot of landlords defaulting on loans. Unlike normal homeowners, if a landlord defaults on a loan, the bank will seize not only the empty properties, but will also go after any other properties still under mortgage in order to recover their losses... Since the price of housing will go down (with supply and demand... fewer people means lower housing prices), the losses to the mortgage companies will be severe, and will be felt throughout the entire financial industry.

Interest rates will rise to unprecedented levels so that the lending companies can keep from going bankrupt, which will increase the costs of anyone who still has an adjustable rate loan, which will result in even more defaults on the loans... Within 6 months, no financial institution will be able to provide new loans, and almost all of them will be selling their loans as they liquidate the business under bankruptcies.

The liquidated loans will create a monopoly of lending companies, which is always bad for the consumers.

Also, the stop on new loans will hurt all other businesses... Industry growth will completely stop, which will increase prices for every single widget sold world-wide... Then, the prices will all drop... but nobody would have jobs by this point, so it really wouldn't matter what the widgets were being sold for, because nobody would be able to buy anything anyways.

I expect that a recession of the scale of the 1930's would last around 10 years, if every illegal immigrant were to suddenly leave the US.

However, the easiest way to avoid such a collapse would be to make more illegal immigrants legal. We would do it over a period of 5 years, slowly letting more and more people become citizens or legal residents, so that we can slowly allow more people to be protected by the federal wage minimums, which would improve the economy, raise the basic standard of living for everybody (who cares if your grocery bill doubles if your wages quadruple? At the end, you would be paying half of what you pay now, in real dollars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_versus_nominal_value).)

The key would be to make a slow, controlled, but bold move towards strengthening our entire economy... The only way to do that would be to legalize our current immigrants... Kicking them out will only destabilize our economy.