what are your thoughts on NIP? i was on another site and moms there were comparing stories about people confronting them to either stop nursing or showing their support

I have never had someone tell me not to. I try to be very discreet about it. I usually pick a place as private as possible and I always use a blanket to cover us. Most of the time I will nurse in my car before or after going in stores. That way I also do not have to chase my other 2 kiddos. LOL.

I really feel that it is fine so long as you are not flashing everyone. I feel that it needs to be discreet. I am a huge advocate for breastfeeding but you do need to be tasteful in a public place.

I'm all for it. I did it. If the baby has to eat then they have to eat. I did try to be discreet and I usually went to the car or what not but if I was someplace and E was hungry then he ate. I wasn't fully comfy just sitting out in the open but that was a self concious thing. So normally I went to my car or whatever. But I did nurse in Dr offices, wic office etc. I just feel that its natural, a baby needs to eat etc

I BF in public, but I try to be as discreet as I can. If I'm at the mall then I'll go in a dressing room. I've nursed my children in the car. Even if I am home with company I try to cover up as much as possible. It's more for my comfort. I have really really big breasts and I would rather not have them exposed too much.
If anyone ever told me not to, or asked me to go somewhere else I would tell them to kiss my ass. Luckily- this has not happened to me YET.

i have no problem w/ it as long as it is somewhat discrete.

I don't think anyone has the right to tell a Mom to stop nursing if she is in public...as long as its being done tastefully.

For me personally, I was not comfortable breastfeeding in public. I felt it was borderline indecent exposure, and I chose not to do it in public. Like Kristi, I would go to my car, or to a room/place where I could have some privacy.

I BF in public, but I try to be as discreet as I can. If I'm at the mall then I'll go in a dressing room. I've nursed my children in the car. Even if I am home with company I try to cover up as much as possible. It's more for my comfort. I have really really big breasts and I would rather not have them exposed too much.
If anyone ever told me not to, or asked me to go somewhere else I would tell them to kiss my ass. Luckily- this has not happened to me YET.


That is funny:lmao I have had people be very encourging and say how proud they are that I am breast feeding. I find this to be more uncomfortable than when I cannot be in a private area and young boys are walking by looking to see what is going on.

I did it where ever Aaron wanted to eat...but I was very discreet

i have no problem w/ it as long as it is somewhat discrete.

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I don't think anyone has the right to tell a Mom to stop nursing if she is in public...as long as its being done tastefully.




I agree :yes

with madison i was a little shy to nurse in public at first until the time came that it was just a pain to go to the car and she needed to eat. i just try to find a quiet place wherever i am and be discreet about it. i have no problems with mother's who BF in public as long as they are modest about it (which most of them are anyhow). now i don't mind nursing in public, except that hayden is such a lookie-loo that it's difficult with him. madison was so easy to BF in public.

i have no problem w/ it as long as it is somewhat discrete.


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If a woman wasn't being discreet, I would never say anything. While I wouldn't like seeing it, I have no right to tell her my feelings.

I have absolutely no problem with a woman breastfeeding in public as long as she is doing it with some taste and discretion. I, personally, chose to put a very light blanket over my shoulder which covered some of the baby's head and most of my boob from being seen. It was kinda like a little tent. I just preferred it that way because I didn't want to be exposed. I don't expect moms to go to that extreme though. If you can get your baby on and off without leaving your whole boob dangling out of your shirt, then by all means do it however you feel comfortable. I don't think anyone wants to see a woman's whole boob, nipple and all, hanging out everywhere, but seeing some bare breast doesn't bother me if the baby is nursing. I think it's totally natural and wonderful :) In most cases, you'll see more bare boob at a public beach or pool than you will on a nursing woman. I'd much rather see a woman nurse her baby than a little teeny bopper flopping her ASSets around on the beach (yes, I'm jealous :rofl )

I wanted to add, I think actually being a nursing mom gave me some insight to how uncomfy it can feel sometimes (to a new mom who may already feel a little awkward). When we went out to eat and there was nowhere else to feed the baby except at the table (I was NOT going to a bathroom :pukey ) I very discreetly fed my baby with a blanket over me and all, sitting in a booth, minding my own personal business, trying to draw as little attention as possible... and although I did get some huge smiles and nods from moms who appreciated it, I also got some really awkward and bad looks from people who just didn't understand. I could tell they expected me to remove myself from the table to feed my baby. I'm sorry but I don't take a formula fed baby to the bathroom or out to the freezing ass car to eat, so I'm not taking a breastfeeding baby there either. Same concept but some people are just sickened or not comfortable with a natural feeding process for whatever reason. I think as long as the mom is being tasteful and discreet, she should be able to nurse anywhere she wants to.

As long as the person is discreet I don't have one problem. I've done it myself in public. I was discreet and nobody saw anything.

I have absolutely no problem with a woman breastfeeding in public as long as she is doing it with some taste and discretion.


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Well I dont have any kids but I think it's perfectly fine as long as they are discreet like everyone said. I was sitting in borders with my mom and there was this poor lady trying to find a place to sit down to breastfeed so we moved off the couch and she covered up and it was fine no big deal. I think it's a very natural thing and I dont understand why people get all weird about it... as long as it's not just hanging out for the world to see its a very nice thing.

I always covered myself with a blanket just because both my kids would stop and let go look around then get back to business. No one wants to my boobie hangin out. I always found a quiet out of the way place. Well Ok not always one time Lily was so so so hungry I sat on the bench in the meat department of the grocery store but I was covered with a blanket. I got some strange looks but no one said anything. I feel no one has the right to tell a woman when or where she can feed her baby. Its like saying hey you need to starve your child because Im incomfortable. No one would ever say anything to a mom bottle feeding her baby. Yet so many people have problems with moms who bottle feed. Catch 22?

I only had one smart ass comment from a friend but that's cause he was a smart ass.

I am all for NIP & think it is ridiculous when someone is asked to stop nursing! And it is even more ridiculous to ask a nursing momma to go to the bathroom to do it! You'd never tell a bottlefeeding mom or anyone else to go eat where you pee & poop so why should a nursing mom?! :duh :dunno

I also got some really awkward and bad looks from people who just didn't understand. I could tell they expected me to remove myself from the table to feed my baby.

I say that if they are uncomfortable with it then THEY can take their food and eat in the bathroom!!

I nurse my babies anywhere I am if they are hungry. I take my sling most places with me so that I can nurse and people don't know the difference. I've nursed walking down the aisle in the commissary before.

I did have one person who made a comment once. She said that she felt that once kids were a year old she felt that they should be done with the breast and that nursing past a year was unacceptable. I was nursing my daughter who is very small for her age (she weighs 19 pounds at 18 months). Taniyah finished nursing and got down to walk around. She asked how old she was and I told her. She was around 15 months then. You could tell that it was a real foot in mouth moment for her!! Serves her right for opening her big mouth.

I'm fine with it as long as women are discreet and appropriate about it. Unfortunately some are not which is why the big controversy all the time. I've seen one too many women with their boobs hanging out in the middle of a mall. My husband and teen boys really do not want to see that. ;) but then I've seen many women do it to where you could hardly even tell they were bf'ing at the time. :)

Taniyah finished nursing and got down to walk around.


Ok, again I don't have a problem nursing in public at all, as long as it's discreet, BUT I find that a little odd that you are nursing your 15 month old. If they can ask for the boob, then I think it's time to wean them off. No offense, but I would be looking at you rather strangly too.

Ok, again I don't have a problem nursing in public at all, as long as it's discreet, BUT I find that a little odd that you are nursing your 15 month old. If they can ask for the boob, then I think it's time to wean them off. No offense, but I would be looking at you rather strangly too.

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Ok, again I don't have a problem nursing in public at all, as long as it's discreet, BUT I find that a little odd that you are nursing your 15 month old. If they can ask for the boob, then I think it's time to wean them off. No offense, but I would be looking at you rather strangly too.


both the WHO and AAP recommend BF until they are 2 years old.

I fully believe in breastfeeding until the child is ready to wean, extended breastfeeding (past the age of 2), and nursing in public. The issues that (many) people have about NIP is due to the fact that society has sexualized the breast. When I nursed DS, I made sure to wear shirts that allowed for discretion, while still being able to give him the eye contact he needed while nursing. I do not believe in "whipping it out" for all to see, but I also was not going to hide. Someone asked me to go into the bathroom in the NEX once and I told them to take their lunch in there and eat it, that ended that interaction.

I was unable to nurse DD because I was very ill and on many medications (unsafe medications) after she was born and I didn't have the energy to "pump and dump" to maintain my supply until the meds were out of my system. I nursed DS for about 3 months and stopped only because I was in extreme pain due to some latching issues that he had. If I could have, I would have nursed both of them until at least a year.

i just need to add.... i think its funny how "nursing in public" is abbreviated Nip! hahaha.. ok ok im a perv i suppose.

other than that.. all for it!

No offense, but I would be looking at you rather strangly too.

No offense taken at all. I raise my kids the way I think they should be raised. I don't do it to make anyone else happy.

If they can ask for the boob, then I think it's time to wean them off. .


So does that mean that the 10 month old who can point to a bottle and say baba should be weaned as well? I mean they are asking for that thing so should be weaned, right?!:shock

Ok, again I don't have a problem nursing in public at all, as long as it's discreet, BUT I find that a little odd that you are nursing your 15 month old. If they can ask for the boob, then I think it's time to wean them off. No offense, but I would be looking at you rather strangly too.

I was at a home party one time and no kidding a 4 yr old little boy came up and whipped up his mothers shirt, took her boob right here - sucked about 3 minutes, all the while she was laughing and saying how much he just loves his mommy. Sorry but that is NOT breastfeeding. It's also much different from a 15 month old. I know alot of people bf as much as 2 yrs but once they are eating solids at the table and drinking from cups I question exactly why bf'ing an older child in public is a necessitity. After a year old I really don't buy into the whole 'nutrition value' when they are getting that through table foods. I don't mean to offend anyone by that statement but its an honest question I never understood. We weaned our children as soon as they started to increase their solids and get a handle on the cup and once they started drinking milk.

So does that mean that the 10 month old who can point to a bottle and say baba should be weaned as well? I mean they are asking for that thing so should be weaned, right?!:shock

This is just my opinion, and I realize there will be those who disagree and that's fine. But yes, I think if the 10 month old is drinking from a cup and eating table foods on a regular basis then yes, it is time to start weaning. Most babies by 10 months are obviously not taking the breast or bottles as much as they were when they were even 6 months old. Why? Because their intake of table foods have increased.

This is just my opinion, and I realize there will be those who disagree and that's fine. But yes, I think if the 10 month old is drinking from a cup and eating table foods on a regular basis then yes, it is time to start weaning. Most babies by 10 months are obviously not taking the breast or bottles as much as they were when they were even 6 months old. Why? Because their intake of table foods have increased.


I agree, but back to the original question, as long as the mom is discreet I am cool with breastfeeding in public. Personally, though like someone already mentioned I do not want to see a boob flying out from no where for everyone's viewing pleasure/displeasure.

I really don't get why after 12 months of age, when a child can be drinking regular milk, why they should continue to breastfeed?

I was at a home party one time and no kidding a 4 yr old little boy came up and whipped up his mothers shirt, took her boob right here - sucked about 3 minutes, all the while she was laughing and saying how much he just loves his mommy. Sorry but that is NOT breastfeeding. It's also much different from a 15 month old. I know alot of people bf as much as 2 yrs but once they are eating solids at the table and drinking from cups I question exactly why bf'ing an older child in public is a necessitity. After a year old I really don't buy into the whole 'nutrition value' when they are getting that through table foods. I don't mean to offend anyone by that statement but its an honest question I never understood. We weaned our children as soon as they started to increase their solids and get a handle on the cup and once they started drinking milk.


I totally agree!

Also Ste, with breast milk and formula, you want to switch to whole milk by the time they are a year old. Breast milk is wonderful for infants. We all know it is packed of antibodies that the infants need in their first year of life, but it really doesn't hold much nutritional value by the time they are over a year. They need to eat solids that have the nutritional value for toddlers and young children. And for your information, I was weaning my kids off the bottle right before they were one and gave them a sippy. They were also eating some table foods as well. They did perfectly fine too.

All in all, it's diffrent strokes for different folks, but after the age of one, I find it almost disturbing to see a toddler or like luvmysailor2001 pointed out, a 4 year old suckling their mom's breast. To me, that's almost like the mother is getting some sick pleasure out of it. If you don't like what I had to say, then oh well. That's my take on it, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

To me, that's almost like the mother is getting some sick pleasure out of it. If you don't like what I had to say, then oh well. That's my take on it, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

You know, I've often thought the same thing.

To me, that's almost like the mother is getting some sick pleasure out of it. If you don't like what I had to say, then oh well. That's my take on it, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.


instead of getting extremely offending of you saying I get pleasure out of nursing my son, i am just going to provide some sites that say it is better to nursing past a year. take it or leave it.

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html

http://parenting.ivillage.com/tp/tpweaning/0,,3x5j,00.html

Most people in America think it offensive to NIP especially once the child is over 12 months. In MANY other countries it is the best source of food for a child due to spoilage and shortage of nutritous food. Breast milk has everything a person needs to survive but how much fun is that to only drink milk for our whole life. Also, I cant see any man putting breast milk in thier morning coffee but it would really be the same as cow's milk with some added nutrition. As long as the older toddler is being taught how to eat table food then there is no cause for concern.

Its only most of Americans who think it weird when in fact we are in the minority on this subject.

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instead of getting extremely offending of you saying I get pleasure out of nursing my son, i am just going to provide some sites that say it is better to nursing past a year. take it or leave it.

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html

http://parenting.ivillage.com/tp/tpweaning/0,,3x5j,00.html


I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you. That kellymom website says:


Nursing toddlers are SMART (Formula Fed children are just as smart! My son was BF for 3 weeks, then switched to formula, and per my son's teacher, he is one of the smartest kids in his class).

Nursing toddlers are WELL ADJUSTED SOCIALLY (Nursing or not, I don't think it has anything to do with social adjustment)

And as far as allergies go...I was breastfed for over a year, and I have ALOT of allergies, as well as minor asthma. Being breastfed certainly didn't prevent that in me!

The AAP recommends BF as long as it is mutually agreeable between the mother and child. I would suppose that those people who push their children to grow up as fast as they possibly can so that they don't have to bother with them wouldn't understand that concept. My child BF usually before she goes down for a nap, before bedtime and when she needs comforted. It's not like she goes around all day attached to my breast! Our ped says that the average age for a child to nurse worldwide is 4 years old. The US has one of the lowest rates of BF than any other nation. It also has one of the lowest rates for exclusive BF during the first six months than any other nation.

BF also decreases the risk of breast cancer in women.

To me, that's almost like the mother is getting some sick pleasure out of it. If you don't like what I had to say, then oh well. That's my take on it, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I guess I would rather take pleasure in nursing my baby that in listening to them cry or allowing them to cry until they puke!

The AAP recommends BF as long as it is mutually agreeable between the mother and child. I would suppose that those people who push their children to grow up as fast as they possibly can so that they don't have to bother with them wouldn't understand that concept. My child BF usually before she goes down for a nap, before bedtime and when she needs comforted. It's not like she goes around all day attached to my breast! Our ped says that the average age for a child to nurse worldwide is 4 years old. The US has one of the lowest rates of BF than any other nation. It also has one of the lowest rates for exclusive BF during the first six months than any other nation.

BF also decreases the risk of breast cancer in women.

I agree with all except nursing for comfort. Its the same as giving a bottle for comfort or teaching older kids to eat in distress. BF when your child needs comforted is teaching bad habits especially if you are BF a toddler. Be careful with that hun :hugs

I would suppose that those people who push their children to grow up as fast as they possibly can so that they don't have to bother with them wouldn't understand that concept.



How is not breastfeeding a child pushing them to grow up to fast?? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Formula Feeding and Breast feeding is doing the same thing...giving your child nutrition.

I guess I would rather take pleasure in nursing my baby that in listening to them cry or allowing them to cry until they puke!

What is that suppose to mean? You are opening a whole new cans of worms here. Are you insinuating that I let me children cry till they puke?????? THAT has never happened. Look, apparently you would breastfeed till your child starts kindergarten, but don't you dare talk to me like I am a bad mother because I did breastfeed my kids the first couple weeks and they were bottle fed as well. Who are you, the president of the Le Leche league?!?!?!? My children are well adjusted, well rounded, never had ear infections, hardly ever get sick. Hmmmmm.... I guess I must have been doing something right .

Also, breasfeeding to satisfy your needs are we??? If you want this to get ugly, I suggest we take this to pm.

Also, lets stick to the topic at hand, and not drag in the CIO thread in here.


Bottom line, I don't have a problem with someone nursing in public. I don't expect them to go to the bathroom either. Just be discreet about it.

All in all, it's diffrent strokes for different folks, but after the age of one, I find it almost disturbing to see a toddler or like luvmysailor2001 pointed out, a 4 year old suckling their mom's breast. To me, that's almost like the mother is getting some sick pleasure out of it. If you don't like what I had to say, then oh well. That's my take on it, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.
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I think that this is where the offense was taken. I dont think that it is disturbing at all.. Goodness knows there is more then just boobs hanging out these days!

How long did you nurse Sarah? If you havent nursed over the age of one you have no idea how someone would feel. I nursed my last child for longer then that and it was not disgusting at all. Sick pleasure!! You are funny!!:giggle

I never had anyone confront me for any reason when I was nursing, but I always covered up really well and many people didn't even know what I was doing. Lke other moms it was more for me. I think women have the right to breastfeed where ever they like. I do agree that you should be disgreet about it. If I had a son I wouldn't want him seeing some women's breast just becasue she didn't feel she needed to cover up. Or even my husband for that reason.

You know...Some people aren't able to breastfeed due to medical issues...Formula feeding doesn't mean you love your child any less...

NIP is fine to me. But I CANNO)T see a ped telling you that bfing til 4 is fine. That just baffles me. A bottle fed baby should be off the bottle and on cups 12 months old (recomended) but a breastfed baby can do it til 4? COmforting your child is EXCELLENT. My son comfort nursed in the early stages too. But to comfort nurse beyond age 2 to me is a little long. *shrug*

You know...Some people aren't able to breastfeed due to medical issues...Formula feeding doesn't mean you love your child any less...

NIP is fine to me. But I CANNO)T see a ped telling you that bfing til 4 is fine. That just baffles me. A bottle fed baby should be off the bottle and on cups 12 months old (recomended) but a breastfed baby can do it til 4? COmforting your child is EXCELLENT. My son comfort nursed in the early stages too. But to comfort nurse beyond age 2 to me is a little long. *shrug*


Few people nurse toddlers exclusively. They do eat table food too, they are just allowed to ask for a drink and its available on demand.

I agree with all except nursing for comfort.

When I say comfort I'm not saying comfort in general. I'm talking about when she's sick and such. She does have other comfort measures and in general can self sooth herself. Most days she nurses 1-2 times a day. Sometimes she goes for several days without nursing. When she's sick she nurses more often and I'm glad that I can provide that comfort for her.

You know...Some people aren't able to breastfeed due to medical issues...Formula feeding doesn't mean you love your child any less

100 percent correct

Our ped says that the average age for a child to nurse worldwide is 4 years old. The US has one of the lowest rates of BF than any other nation. It also has one of the lowest rates for exclusive BF during the first six months than any other nation.

"Worldwide" I'd like to have that broken down just a bit more statistically. US is one country that does not have to worry about lack of food. Places like Africa for example, BF is all they have to keep their child alive. They don't have the luxury of going to the grocery store to pick up a gallon of milk if they choose to.

I guess I would rather take pleasure in nursing my baby that in listening to them cry or allowing them to cry until they puke!

the scenerio given originally, in which you replied to, had to do with my seeing a 4 yr old walk up to his mother, whip up her shirt and suck on her boob in front of a room full of women and her not thinking twice about it and even enjoying. It's probably the ONLY time I've ever been offended personally on this subject. This may be why the US is not as accepting either. There was NO nutritional value in what that child did. He was on her maybe 3 minutes the most. He was NOT being fed.

A nursing BABY is quite different than a nursing toddler or preschooler for that matter. If they are potty trained and attending preschool they need to be off the boob. :rolleyes

I guess I must have been doing something right .

Also, breasfeeding to satisfy your needs are we??? If you want this to get ugly, I suggest we take this to pm.

I never said that you weren't parenting right. Every person parents differently. Most people, and I say most because I have seen parents who have not, make decisions based on what they feel is best for thier child. I'm not saying that I'm better than you nor are you better than me. I do what I feel is best for each of my children and it's not always the same for each child even. Most of my children have been weaned from either a bottle or a cup before a year. That was their decision. This one has nursed longer than any of the others and sometimes she goes days without nursing. If I was doing it for my own pleasure then I would force her to nurse, which I do not. I even left her with my Mom for 3 days while DH and I went away before he deployed. She did fine. If it was for my own pleasure I would have taken her with me. I'm not insinuating that you are a bad parent, you just make different choices than I do, that's all;)

I know in Mexico it is very normal to see a 2 or 3 yr old still nursing. I think I actually BF till I was almost 2. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, I personally only BF Bri till she was 6 months old and then my milk kinda dried out but I was okay with switching to bottle. If I could have continued, I may have done it till she was close to one but after that I would feel uncomfortable because I know it's not as accepted here. Besides I think that after a year, they've gotten all the nutrition they need from the breast. I don't know exactly why some countries do if for longer when whole milk can just as easily replace breast milk. Personally, like Sarah said, if they can vocally ask for it, it's time to wean but I know some people don't see it like this at all. I just wouldn't want my kid going to pre-k and telling her little buddies where she gets her snack, ykwim?!

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How long did you nurse Sarah? If you havent nursed over the age of one you have no idea how someone would feel. I nursed my last child for longer then that and it was not disgusting at all. Sick pleasure!! You are funny!!:giggle[/QUOTE]


Well, medically I really couldn't nurse as much as I wanted, due to a BREAST REDUCTION, but I still tried to breastfeed the first couple of weeks.

Thank you for thinking I am funny. I think I am funny too :giggle :rolleyes

You know...Some people aren't able to breastfeed due to medical issues...Formula feeding doesn't mean you love your child any less...


I agree 100%. Some women don't breastfeed because they aren't comfortable doing it and some women don't breastfeed because they feel it's easier to make a bottle and feed or they have to work and don't want to hassle with pumping (this was the case with me when I had my first. I BF till I went back to work and then we switched to formula because it was easier). I don't think that formula feeding a baby means that you love them any less.

I agree 100%. Some women don't breastfeed because they aren't comfortable doing it and some women don't breastfeed because they feel it's easier to make a bottle and feed or they have to work and don't want to hassle with pumping (this was the case with me when I had my first. I BF till I went back to work and then we switched to formula because it was easier). I don't think that formula feeding a baby means that you love them any less.
Sorry. I guess the whole breastfeed/formula feed issue really gets to me. I tried like HELL to breastfeed my son. It took me 9.5 years to even get pregnant due to infertility and then I had a low milk supply. I fed on demand, took fenugreek, ate oatmeal, pumped after every feeding, and had to supplement with formula after every breastfeeding session, saw a LC weekly etc. He refused the formula. So he didn't gain what he shoulda. He only wanted me. Period. With a sad heart I was told I must wean when he was 4 and a half months old since he wouldn't supplement and wasnt gaining. I cannot tell you how many people made me feel like a shitty mom for it. I had people tell me there was no such thing as low supply, that it was my fault, I was harming my kid, I didn't love him enough to keep at it etc etc. I shed many many tears over it so I guess that whole portion of this kinda gets to me.....

Anyhow..I know this isnt about that even tho it started to turn that way so I will just say again I do agree with NIp...

the scenerio given originally, in which you replied to, had to do with my seeing a 4 yr old walk up to his mother,

I actually was responding to the person who felt that I was nursing my child for my own sick pleasure. Realistically, my daughter will probably be weaned by the time she is two years old. Sometimes she goes for days without nursing so I know that she is needing it less and less. I highly doubt that she will nurse until she is 3 or 4. I do know people who have nursed for that long and at first thought it a little odd but that was their and their childs decision to make, not mine and I have no place to judge them for doing it.

I actually was responding to the person who felt that I was nursing my child for my own sick pleasure. Realistically, my daughter will probably be weaned by the time she is two years old. Sometimes she goes for days without nursing so I know that she is needing it less and less. I highly doubt that she will nurse until she is 3 or 4. I do know people who have nursed for that long and at first thought it a little odd but that was their and their childs decision to make, not mine and I have no place to judge them for doing it.
I think Sarah was referring to the story of the 4yr old and not you...Im not Sarah so I dunno but she had quoted the orginal post with that story in it...

I think Sarah was referring to the story of the 4yr old and not you...Im not Sarah so I dunno but she had quoted the orginal post with that story in it...

That's the way I took it. I didn't think she called anyone out on this board as BF'ing for sick please but she was referring to the mother of the 4 yr old and mother that I posted about. ;) I think if anyone goes back and reads Sarah's post, they would read it the same way we did. I'll leave room to be wrong though. It's tough reading threads this long, things get miscommunicated and taken out of context.

I never had anyone confront me for any reason when I was nursing, but I always covered up really well and many people didn't even know what I was doing. Lke other moms it was more for me. I think women have the right to breastfeed where ever they like. I do agree that you should be disgreet about it. If I had a son I wouldn't want him seeing some women's breast just becasue she didn't feel she needed to cover up. Or even my husband for that reason.

I cannot tell you how many people made me feel like a shitty mom for it. I had people tell me there was no such thing as low supply, that it was my fault, I was harming my kid, I didn't love him enough to keep at it etc etc.

Nope. I'm not one those types although I know that there are many of them out there. I'm sorry that people made you feel like that when you weren't able to breastfeed. That certainly doesn't help out any. I done both. As a matter of fact I have 2 one year olds - one nurses and one doesn't.

I think Sarah was referring to the story of the 4yr old and not you...Im not Sarah so I dunno but she had quoted the orginal post with that story in it...

Sorry, I took it as anyone who nursed after a year old was doing it for their own sick pleasure. I don't think I'm the only one who read it that way either. I don't totally agree with allowing a four year old to come up and do that either. My 1 year old isn't even allowed to nurse like that.

I was referring more to the 4 year old and not necessarily to you Ste. It was getting personal and I was getting angry at you when you made that comment about how I let my kids cry till they puke. They are 8 and almost 4. I can tell you they don't "cry it out" :rolleyes. IMO, yes I do find it VERY disturbing that a woman would breastfeed a child at that age (2-4 yrs). I think it does more harm than good, and THAT'S where I made the comment about how it sounds more like the woman is having some sick pleasure from it.

What I don't like is how you and some of the women on here are making it sound like that I or some of the other women who didn't breast feed aren't good mothers. It came across like "We are better mothers for breastfeeding" or "Our children are more healthier and smarter than yours". That's a crock of shit! Regardless if you breast feed or not, you can still have a wonderful bonding experience with your child during feeding time, and we shouldn't have to feel inadequate if we choose not to, or cannot breastfeed.

Sarah no one is right or wrong for nursing or not. One of mine they almost forced me into nursing even though there was no way I would be able to do it with my demanding 18 month son. I had no help at all and I knew I wouldnt last doing it!

Nursing doesnt always work out. Thankfully we have great formula that is great for babies!!!

My last baby I nursed for a bit to long!!

What I don't like is how you and some of the women on here are making it sound like that I or some of the other women who didn't breast feed aren't good mothers. It came across like "We are better mothers for breastfeeding" or "Our children are more healthier and smarter than yours". That's a crock of shit! Regardless if you breast feed or not, you can still have a wonderful bonding experience with your child during feeding time, and we shouldn't have to feel inadequate if we choose not to, or cannot breastfeed.

I was upset because I felt that the comment was directed at me because I've nursed my child for longer than one year.

I did not intend to come across as being a better mother than anybody because I'm BF. Like I said in some of my other posts, I've also FF. This baby is actually the first that I've BF exclusively and for as long as I have. The decision to BF or FF is that of the mother and nobody elses.

And I never stated that my children were smarter or healthier because they were BF. My 5 year BF for 7.5 months and he takes more medication than most old people. I do think that BF benefited him health wise and helped him to not get sick when he was a baby but that certainly doesn't mean that I'm a better mother than you are.

Sorry if I made you think that you were a terrible mother because you didn't nurse your child until he started college:giggle :giggle :giggle

Aww man! Looks like I missed out on all the fun on this one! Well, just to throw my 2 cents in here...I have no problem with NIP as long as it is discreet. Women who feel it is okay to throw their boobs out there simply because there is a bab attached aggrivate me to no end. As far as the spin-off with extended BF...I am one of those who have issues with it. When my kids are were/are old enough to ask for a bottle I will take it away..same theory for BF. My oldest was BF for 6 weeks..and then I got double mastitis and my antibiotics dried up my supply. With Bradley I never BF. MacKray is a terribly inteligent child and Bradley is big, fat, and happy. What more could a mum ask for?