I'm watching the Real World. :lol
And this is something they're debating.

I'll quote (thanks to DVR technology)

Girl's view: "...there's always an alternative. . .You need a job to get food, everybody does, so why not work at a McD's?"
Guy's view: "...What if you can't get hired at McD's? What if you need to pay for more than just food?"
Girl's view: "Well why can't you get hired at McD's but get hired as a stripper?"
Girl 2: "Basically it's just lazy people who don't want to make an honest living or work hard so they take the easy way out and it just happens to be immoral and filthy."
Guy's view: "But I'm talking about people who are outside the box who aren't like us who came from nothing and don't have options and this is what they have to do."
Girl 2: "...Well I know a lot of people who came from nothing, too, and they start at McD's. . .You know why people strip, so they can pay for their drugs..."

So - what's your view on this conversation in general?
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I feel that the girls are actually being very closed-minded. Not even considering that some people choose to strip because they just want to do it and they find it fun :dunno And might actually be very respectable people with legitimate goals and a focus in life.

The guys seemed to be more opened minded and reasonable with it - later in this episode they discussed that the girls they were talking to about this just don't know what it's like to have nothing and have no choices in life.

Well I'd have to go work at Mickey D's

Don't nobody want to see me strip.

Not unless graying hair and flabbiness is all of a sudden really sexy!

The girls are being ignorant and if you are a single mom or a kid trying to put herself through college you may be able to support yourself a lot better stripping then flipping burgers.

I saw that episode and I wanted to slap Kimberly and Sarah. It was kind of sad that the guys in the house sympathized with the strippers more than those two uptight biatches did.

Yeah, I found it rather sad, too, that the guys were more understanding of such decisions!

I'm watching the Real World. :lol
And this is something they're debating.

I'll quote (thanks to DVR technology)

Girl's view: "...there's always an alternative. . .You need a job to get food, everybody does, so why not work at a McD's?"
Guy's view: "...What if you can't get hired at McD's? What if you need to pay for more than just food?"
Girl's view: "Well why can't you get hired at McD's but get hired as a stripper?"
Girl 2: "Basically it's just lazy people who don't want to make an honest living or work hard so they take the easy way out and it just happens to be immoral and filthy."
Guy's view: "But I'm talking about people who are outside the box who aren't like us who came from nothing and don't have options and this is what they have to do."
Girl 2: "...Well I know a lot of people who came from nothing, too, and they start at McD's. . .You know why people strip, so they can pay for their drugs..."

So - what's your view on this conversation in general?
______________

I feel that the girls are actually being very closed-minded. Not even considering that some people choose to strip because they just want to do it and they find it fun :dunno And might actually be very respectable people with legitimate goals and a focus in life.

The guys seemed to be more opened minded and reasonable with it - later in this episode they discussed that the girls they were talking to about this just don't know what it's like to have nothing and have no choices in life.

I agree with you. Completely. Btw, if you can't read, you'd have a hard time working at McD's....you'd be stuck in the back. With no real room for advancement.

If you can't read and you strip you can make better money.

LOL.
Where I live there are only a few in-town job choices and the only one that would payour bills is being a stripper.

So if I wasn't such a fat prude I'd totally dance a few and earn some - get the hell out of dodge. LOL

When McD's pays the same as stripping does then it will be an equal comparison.

People need to get over themselves. :lol

not that i see anything wrong with stripping at all, but is it really any surprise why the GUY was more supportative than the girls? of course he understands, he probably has been to a strip club and the girls probably haven't and are spouting off what they have heard from other close-minded people, spouting off stereotypes.

not that i see anything wrong with stripping at all, but is it really any surprise why the GUY was more supportative than the girls? of course he understands, he probably has been to a strip club and the girls probably haven't and are spouting off what they have heard from other close-minded people, spouting off stereotypes.

That sounds so familiar :rofl

Saw that episode and the girls on there are ridiculously close minded!!!!

Yes women can work at McD's but at the same time why should they have to if they don't want to. People are forgetting that 99% of women who strip do it because they choose to do it. No one put a gun to their head and said take 'em off. :banghead

I'm watching the Real World. :lol
And this is something they're debating.

I'll quote (thanks to DVR technology)

Girl's view: "...there's always an alternative. . .You need a job to get food, everybody does, so why not work at a McD's?"
Guy's view: "...What if you can't get hired at McD's? What if you need to pay for more than just food?"
Girl's view: "Well why can't you get hired at McD's but get hired as a stripper?"
Girl 2: "Basically it's just lazy people who don't want to make an honest living or work hard so they take the easy way out and it just happens to be immoral and filthy."
Guy's view: "But I'm talking about people who are outside the box who aren't like us who came from nothing and don't have options and this is what they have to do."
Girl 2: "...Well I know a lot of people who came from nothing, too, and they start at McD's. . .You know why people strip, so they can pay for their drugs..."

So - what's your view on this conversation in general?
______________

I feel that the girls are actually being very closed-minded. Not even considering that some people choose to strip because they just want to do it and they find it fun :dunno And might actually be very respectable people with legitimate goals and a focus in life.

The guys seemed to be more opened minded and reasonable with it - later in this episode they discussed that the girls they were talking to about this just don't know what it's like to have nothing and have no choices in life.

:lmao They all three sound ignorant and silly. They're kids though right, so that's fogivable.
I mean not the least of arguable points is that I'd like to see them rake in half the cash in a week at McDs that their stripper counterpart makes in a weekend.
:giggle

ughhh i'm not even going to get into this, because i think everyone knows how i feel.

(but i will say, for the record, that all my stripping money went to bills and groceries, and none went to drugs. kthx!)

PERSONALLY, I don't agree with stripping. There's GOTTA be something out there you can do. Weather that work at Mcd's or someplace else. If you can't read...there's places where you can learn...I haven't found a job I'd be happy with right now, but I wouldn't subject myself to stripping. No matter how much money you make, if my mom stripped to put food on the table and such, I'd be unhappy with her. Jobs are little to none right now yes, but I wouldn't go to that level. Only my husband needs to see me like that...I'd happily strip for him anyday, but for strangers? No...this is my OPINION. I am not degrating anyone...and I think if you choose that lifestyle for yourself, then that is your choice...and I applaud you for doing everything you can to care for your family...for me...it's not for me...

ok well um if you dont like strippers then DONT GO TO THE STRIP CLUB lol

Heck McD pays what min wage?? who the heck can survive on min wage??? I know girls who have stripped and they easily make double in a night what I make in 2 weeks at my full time job.....
so if u got the body and the ability then heck go for it sweetie have fun and be careful in the 12 inch heels

Those girls are ignorant IMO.

Stereotypes will be around until the end of mankind.

I live in a trailer and if I had a dollar for every time I've heard the term "trailer trash" i'd be f'n rich by now!

Wow, how ignorant and closed-minded are these girls.

I have no problem with stripping to make ends meet.

Wow, how ignorant and closed-minded are these girls.

I have no problem with stripping to make ends meet.
I'm not picking on you, just using the last example among many. A lot of us pointed out how they are ignorant, and went on to qualify it with how we thought stripping was ok. For my part I just want to interject that I don't think everyone who does not agree with stripping is ignorant. I won't strip b/c of personal standards at this point in my life. That means I'm true to my values (that are different from other's values), not that I'm ignorant. :) :thumbsup I can argue from bothsides, and neither from a position of ignorance.

It's the blanketing and stubborn refusal to see that not everyone does it for the same reasons that makes their arguement ignorant. Not their actual views.
Sure - I'm sure SOME strip to fuel drug habit (legal or illegal.) and other such things. But not all...so using any blanket statement to sum up how you feel about something is always ignorant and closed-minded.

Well - for me, anyway, that's what I pegged them with :) LOL

Whether I agree with stripping or not doesn't matter right now. I couldn't do it. One, I'm to fat and don't want people (sometimes even my DH) to see me. Sometimes you have to do what you gotta do. I would rather see someone do stripping then selling drugs or prostitution. Some use it as a stepping stone and have to to get by.

Do you want Fries with that????

Those girls are passing judgement without ever being in a tough situation. Hell they are on the REAL WORLD!!!!!!!! Puhlease! :handup

For me personally stripping is morally wrong plus I'm sure people would pay me big bucks to put my clothes back on and ask if I get off the stage! lol But I don't know what other people go through and if the women who choose stripping as a profession are comfortable with their body and don't mind then kudos. Nothing wrong with it. No one is going to tell me what to do with my body so why should I demand someone else do what I say?

A lot of strippers do it to give their children a better life than what they were given. In other words, some would swallow their pride and do something that they might even feel is degrading to give their children a life and a future. That is a lot more than what I could say about some parents with college degrees making big bucks at a 9-5 job who could really give a flip about what their children end up like.

When it comes down to it, it really isn't anyone's business WHY a woman dances for a living. She shouldn't have to answer to anyone.

I would choose working as a stripper if I could find someone who wanted to look at my body. They make more money. You would probably find just as many people working as strippers to buy drugs as you would working at MickyD's. At least if the stripper is working for drugs they can buy nicer ones than someone working at MickyD's, that has to count towards something.

It's the blanketing and stubborn refusal to see that not everyone does it for the same reasons that makes their arguement ignorant. Not their actual views.

:yes That's pretty much exactly what I wanted to clarify. It was the reasons they held their views not the view itself that was ignorant. :)

I would personally never strip like as a job but i think it would be so much fun taking the classes and having a pole at home! I wouldn't look down on someone because that's their job.. I get a little jealous when I hear how much money they make!!