View Full Version : 2 More girls die from HPV Vaccine


Jill
06-24-2008, 01:44 PM
This vaccine is just too new.........


http://www.naturalnews.com/023419.html

(NaturalNews) The European Medicines Agency (EMEA) has reported that two young women died shortly after receiving Merck's Gardasil, a vaccine against several varieties of human papillomavirus (HPV).

Gardasil and Glaxo SmithKline's Cervarix protect against the two strains of HPV that are responsible for 70 percent of cervical cancer cases. Gardasil also protects against two HPV strains that cause 90 percent of genital warts.

The EMEA did not release the names or ages of the women who died, and said the cause of death was still unknown. It described their deaths as "sudden and unexpected."

"In both cases, the cause of death could not be identified. No causal relationship has been established between the deaths of the young women and the administration of Gardasil," the agency said.

The recent deaths mark the fourth and fifth to occur shortly following vaccination with Gardasil and the first in Europe. Previously, three young women, aged 12, 19 and 22, died in the United States within days after receiving a Gardasil shot. In addition, 1,700 cases have been reported of patients suffering non-lethal adverse reactions.

Health officials believe that adverse effects of medication are widely underreported.

Starting in September, the United Kingdom's Department of Health is launching a yearlong campaign to vaccinate British girls between the ages of 11 and 13 with one of the HPV vaccines. The program is expected to prevent 1,000 cervical cancer deaths per year, the department says.

In response to the EMEA's announcement, the Department of Health said it had no plans to reconsider the program or change its advice on vaccination against HPV.

An estimated 1.5 million people in Europe have already received an HPV vaccine.

In the United States, three states have passed laws mandating HPV vaccines for school-age girls, and 38 others have considered similar laws.

Mandatory vaccination has been opposed by the American College of Pediatrics and the New England Journal of Medicine.

Victoria
06-24-2008, 01:46 PM
SO SAD!!!!!!!!!


I agree that it is too new as well....

SandraG
06-24-2008, 01:48 PM
thats horrible

Loretta
06-24-2008, 01:49 PM
It says in the article that not even a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine has been extablished. :puzz

I'm very cautious and selective about vaccines, and even I think that's a sensationalized title for that article.

rosebud*
06-24-2008, 01:50 PM
It says in the article that not even a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine has been extablished. :puzz

I'm very cautious and selective about vaccines, and even I think that's a sensationalized title for that article.
i agree. all vaccines at one time were new and people had adverse reactions to them.

Donna
06-24-2008, 01:50 PM
It says in the article that not even a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine has been extablished. :puzz

I'm very cautious and selective about vaccines, and even I think that's a sensationalized title for that article.

:agree

Teresa
06-24-2008, 01:51 PM
It says in the article that not even a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine has been extablished. :puzz

I'm very cautious and selective about vaccines, and even I think that's a sensationalized title for that article.

I agree :yes I think they need to find an exact cause of death before blaming it on the vaccine.

wyochick
06-24-2008, 01:51 PM
Either way, it's still sad :sadeyes

leanne
06-24-2008, 01:51 PM
this shot is way to new and they need some more time and research on before making young women take it. i will not give my child that shot because of this. i already have one person in home that had an adverse affect that changed our entire life and i am definatly not willing to take that chance with my child.

Miss B Hav'n
06-24-2008, 01:53 PM
It says in the article that not even a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine has been extablished. :puzz

I'm very cautious and selective about vaccines, and even I think that's a sensationalized title for that article.

:tu

It is very easy to jump to the conclusion that they were vaccine related but that doesn't mean they were. Now, once an investigation is done and a factual relationship is established, that's another thing. For now, regardless of this article, I have opted to refrain from vaccinating my DD beause I do agree that the vaccine is too new for my comfort with it.

mrspollak
06-24-2008, 01:59 PM
awe and to think i thought about gettin it. im too scared now

see_jay_elle
06-24-2008, 02:11 PM
It's scary and sad, but I wonder about what the real cause of death is, if none has actually been established. Also, not everyone is going to react the same way to a vaccine - it may work for ten people and then kill the eleventh because of some weird interaction in her body. I haven't had it though because I'm not comfortable with how new it is. I also don't like that three states are requiring it already.

Jill
06-24-2008, 02:24 PM
I also don't like that three states are requiring it already.

Just because it is required does not mean you HAVE to get it.

ilovekale
06-24-2008, 02:31 PM
well...i think that's the case for pretty much any vaccination. they tie it to whatever was done last to the person's body. so it's never quite certain whether they died from an actual vaccination or not. i would like to see more than a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine before i start freaking out. but then again, i haven't gotten gardisil and i don't plan to.

Bryanna
06-24-2008, 02:35 PM
correlation is NOT causation.

basic fact of science.

Bryanna
06-24-2008, 02:35 PM
damn double post.

aheart11
06-24-2008, 02:39 PM
awe and to think i thought about gettin it. im too scared now

:agree 100%

SIMMYBABEZ
06-24-2008, 02:41 PM
I think it's fairly obvious that there is a relationship between the deaths and the vaccine. It's pretty uncommon for young, healthy people to die for no reason days after being given a vaccine. So whilst it could be completely unrelated- I'm going to go the other way and think that it's absolutely, 100% to do with the vaccine.

Back around the mid 80's, the SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome) vaccine was being issued to almost every baby born in the country (Aust). This was a vaccine to prevent it from happening- however in the few years they were issuing it like asprin, the SIDs related deaths had never been so high. Around 1990, people were turned off the vaccine- so almost half of the newborns weren't vaccinated that year. SIDs deaths declined a huge amount in just one year.

My point is- this HPV vaccine almost sounds like a miracle, but it's way too early to know for sure. I'm either going to be very smart, or very dumb about this, but I've pretty much decided I wont be taking the vaccine. It is simply too new.

browneyedbeauty
06-24-2008, 02:51 PM
It says in the article that not even a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine has been extablished. :puzz

I'm very cautious and selective about vaccines, and even I think that's a sensationalized title for that article.

i agree. all vaccines at one time were new and people had adverse reactions to them.

:agree

I love when everyone posts what I'm thinking so I don't have to.

Ellen
06-24-2008, 02:54 PM
I'm hesitant to have my daughter receive that vaccine.....I think I'll wait a few more years...

browneyedbeauty
06-24-2008, 02:55 PM
I've had it and I'm not dead.

jen-marie
06-24-2008, 02:57 PM
I think its sad.. But idk.. I got it and.... I'm fine... I am glad I got it too. :dunno

little.lili
06-24-2008, 03:08 PM
I've had it and I'm not dead.

:giggle nice...

Yeah I dont know what to make of this... I haven't had it... its just a bit scary to think that there "might" be a relation... I'm sure if more girls drop dead they will have to stop selling it.

I don't like vaccines very much... :dunno

petsparkle
06-24-2008, 03:11 PM
As sad as this is, we're talking 1 death out of 1.5 million people who have been vaccinated (using the Europe numbers in the article). I'm pretty sure there are drugs we take every day that have worse odds than that. Or at least other vaccinations most of us have had.

FTCWifey
06-24-2008, 03:31 PM
Whether or not their deaths were definitively caused by the vaccine I am still too concerned about how new this vaccine is and the possibility that it could indeed be the cause.

I have known since it came out that I would not vaccinate myself or my girls until there were many more years of research done. Until then I will try my best to teach them abstinence and/or safer sex practices and teach them how important it is to have regular paps as well as over-all health check-ups. For now that is just the best I can do.

aubrey
06-24-2008, 03:55 PM
Remember that since this is a new vaccine we don't know any long-term effects it could have either.

Ellen
06-24-2008, 03:59 PM
Remember that since this is a new vaccine we don't know any long-term effects it could have either.
Exactly. I still have a moral dilemma giving this vaccine to an 11 year old....

square bear
06-24-2008, 04:02 PM
This is sad.

I've had the vaccine and I'm still alive though.

I agree with Loretta that all vaccines and medications are new at some point and no matter how old they are somebody is still going to have an adverse reaction to it... For example my mom can't have certain vaccines that have been around for a while because she's allergic to them...

I feel bad that the girls died but a lot of other women are reacting just fine to it...

Mommy2Bailey
06-24-2008, 04:03 PM
Considering how many millions of woman have gotten this vaccine and only 5 have died "from" it I dont see the big deal. More people die of the flu every year and they most likely wouldnt have died if they had gotten a flu shot. All my girls will get this vaccine. Taylor just started her series,Christine is done with hers and Bailey will get it also.

Laura48
06-24-2008, 04:30 PM
Considering how many millions of woman have gotten this vaccine and only 5 have died "from" it I dont see the big deal. More people die of the flu every year and they most likely wouldnt have died if they had gotten a flu shot. All my girls will get this vaccine. Taylor just started her series,Christine is done with hers and Bailey will get it also.


I completly agree. I have gotten the vaccine as well.

Here is a link if you want to get indepth about the studies. Sit back, it's a lot of reading :wink

http://www.fda.gov/CBER/review/hpvmer060806r.pdf

glass1/2full
06-24-2008, 04:35 PM
I don't know enough about it but I think I would get it if I was young enough still...

Sarah
06-24-2008, 04:40 PM
It says in the article that not even a casual relationship between the deaths and the vaccine has been extablished. :puzz

I'm very cautious and selective about vaccines, and even I think that's a sensationalized title for that article.

ITA :yes

Emily already had her complete series last year, and we haven't had any problems. Of course with something so new, people will have reactions to it. It's such a isolated incident, and you have to think how many thousands of girls and women who have had the vaccine, and something like 3-5 people have died.

I'm still glad my daughter got it.

usnwife1205
06-24-2008, 04:41 PM
It's sad..

If you read on to other links off of that page, it's as if they are just toying around with this medicine... check it out..

http://www.naturalnews.com/022140.html

More Deaths Caused by Gardasil Bringing Total Number to 11
by Leslee Dru Browning (see all articles by this author)


(NaturalNews) Why inject young girls and boys with a dangerous and life threatening vaccine when the herb Pau d’ Arco has been proven to both prevent and cure HPV?



On October 8, 2007, Judicial Watch Released Analysis Of FDA Data Claiming Gardasil Vaccination Can Lead To Serious Health Problems, Death



According to Judicial Watch, 3,461 complaints about Gardasil have been filed with FDA's Vaccine Adverse Event Report System since its approval last year, and 11 women died after exposure to the vaccine. That is an additional 8 deaths since the last report of 3. The complaints about Gardasil have more than doubled compared to the original 1,637 adverse events reported by Alliance for Human Research Protection.



Alliance for Human Research Protection reports that of the original 1,637 adverse events 371 were serious reactions, including the three original deaths linked to Merck's vaccine. A female patient "died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine." Two other reports, on girls 12 and 19, reported deaths relating to heart problems and/or blood clotting.



Other serious side-effects reported included paralysis, Bells Palsy, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and seizures. And of 42 women who were vaccinated with Gardasil while pregnant, 18 experienced complications, ranging from miscarriages to fetal abnormalities, according to new FDA data. One of the 18 women was diagnosed with an abnormal fetus, and a test conducted on another woman during her pregnancy showed an increased risk of fetal defect.



An article in the FW Daily News written on March 14, 2007 reported — A lead researcher, Diane M. Harper, who spent 20 years developing the vaccine for humanpapilloma virus states that the HPV vaccine is not for younger girls, and that it is "silly" for states to be mandating it for them.



Not only that, she says it's not been tested for effectiveness in younger girls, and administering the vaccine to girls as young as 9 may not even protect them at all. And, in the worst-case scenario, instead of serving to reduce the numbers of cervical cancers within 25 years, such a vaccination crusade actually could cause the numbers to go up.

"Giving it to 11-year-olds is a great big public health experiment," said Diane M. Harper, who is a scientist, physician, professor and the director of the Gynecologic Cancer Prevention Research Group at the Norris Cotton Cancer Center at Dartmouth Medical School in New Hampshire.



"It is silly to mandate vaccination of 11- to 12-year-old girls. There is also not enough evidence gathered on side effects to know that safety is not an issue."



Harper is internationally recognized as a pioneer in the field and has been studying HPV and has been searching for a possible vaccine for several of the more than 100 strains of HPV for 20 years - most of her adult life.



When we have the lead researcher cautioning against vaccinating young girls I think we should take head and halt this experimental charade before more of our young girls die.

Sarah
06-24-2008, 04:45 PM
Also, since my dh is a PMT (Navy's version of the CDC), and he gets full reports, and even confidential reports on vaccines, diseases and other information that I'm not privileged to have. For the most part, I am in the loop with the in's and out's of vaccines because of him. I know he wouldn't have let her have it if it was dangerous, or a threat to her health.


**CDC(Center for Disease Control, not Child Development Center :lol)

leanne
06-24-2008, 04:45 PM
my thing with this is not the fact that there is a slim chance for this or a slim chance for that etc. it is the fact that there is just not any long term studies on this. i am not going to change my mind about giving it to my daughters.

a long time ago they used to give women a shot to make their breast milk dry up quickly and because it worked and no one died they gave it out like there was no tomorrow. years later they realized that the shot caused cancer. all those women that got it from that shot did not realize it until years later when it was too late.

my husbands vaccine was one that was supposed to keep him safe from anthrax and because they were in such a hurry to get it to the soldier population and they had and still do not have any clue what kind of damage this can do to someone. my husband has already been told that the side affects are not immediatly deadly but in the years to come any of his side effects can kill him.

so no i will not take that chance on my childs life. just because their is nothing conclusive about dangerous side effects on people taking the shot now does not mean that in ten or 15 yrs they could not go oops guess we should have tested this better.

DutchGirl
06-24-2008, 06:30 PM
my thing with this is not the fact that there is a slim chance for this or a slim chance for that etc. it is the fact that there is just not any long term studies on this. i am not going to change my mind about giving it to my daughters.

a long time ago they used to give women a shot to make their breast milk dry up quickly and because it worked and no one died they gave it out like there was no tomorrow. years later they realized that the shot caused cancer. all those women that got it from that shot did not realize it until years later when it was too late.

my husbands vaccine was one that was supposed to keep him safe from anthrax and because they were in such a hurry to get it to the soldier population and they had and still do not have any clue what kind of damage this can do to someone. my husband has already been told that the side affects are not immediatly deadly but in the years to come any of his side effects can kill him.

so no i will not take that chance on my childs life. just because their is nothing conclusive about dangerous side effects on people taking the shot now does not mean that in ten or 15 yrs they could not go oops guess we should have tested this better.

Totally! This is exactly why I have not chosen to get the shot. They will only administer the shot up until age 26 and since I am 24, the last physical I went in for, the doctor and nurse were both trying to get me to take it. I had to repeatedly tell them no. I will not put a marginally proven vaccine in my body just because I am nearing the age cut off.

I also think it's crazy that they are making it mandatory for school age children. There is no impending HPV epidemic, one child not taking it does not necessarily put others at risk. If I have a daughter, I will not make the choice for her to get the vaccine. If you can have it up until age 26, then the 18-26 window is a perfect time for her to choose for herself. She can do her own research, and decide if it is right for her. (And remember, the less sexual partners you have, the much smaller your risk of contracting HPV.) Also, hopefully by then the vaccine will have more studies done on the long term effects.

Cassaundra
06-24-2008, 06:38 PM
i do agree that the vaccine it TOO new and more research should have been done before introducing it to the public. Stuff like this is happening all the time now be/c everyone wants solutions now and is not willing to weight the costs. It happened with Bextra, a medicine used for joint pain. Now it is off the market i believe, for causing strokes in patients. I was using it until it caused the death of my great grandmother. I am not choosing to have the HPV vaccine, not for the reason of being new but i just don't feel like i need it.

eelo
06-24-2008, 11:13 PM
My husband was a Navy PMT for 24 years; I was a corpsman for 20 years (lab tech). Our 13 year old and 19 year old are not getting this vaccine. We're just not comfortable with it yet.

Our 22 year old and 24 year old are intelligent women who are capable of making their own informed decisions about their sexual health.

I think the government would be a better steward of public money by providing adequate, appropriate, realistic sex education for teenagers, rather than mandating this vaccine that hasn't yet been proven.

Lauren
06-25-2008, 12:24 AM
Without evidence that the deaths were caused by the vacciene, it's just a mental note in the back of my brain.

I'm in the process of getting the vacciene (had the first shot, 2nd in 2 weeks). I'm 26 so it was either do it now or not get it. I'd rather wait until there's more data about it, but considering I've had more than 1 sexual partner and since I'm single will have more, I really want the possible benefits of the vacciene! I've had several friends contract HPV and I'd really like to avoid it.

Lauren
06-25-2008, 12:24 AM
Double post...board went down. :(

Serran
06-25-2008, 01:03 AM
I was actually in this study before the vaccine went public. I was 18 and wanted the money :sigh If given the chance it's not something I would repeat :no

The shot is based on a great idea, but I agree that it is still too new.