View Full Version : STOP-LOSSES!? I NEED HELP :(
melissa_aimee 07-07-2008, 09:30 PM Well I don't know if giving out the info about my dilema is against ospec, so i'll generalize it!
Can they be prevented or avoided?! I need the 411 :(
IM DYINGGG.
:pray:pray:pray
Fidzy 07-07-2008, 09:35 PM No, I don't believe so. There are tons of people who have been stop-lossed. The only way I can think of is if they talk to their commanding officer, that's the only real way to go about it - sometimes they can get someone else to volunteer for the deployment. DO NOT go to any politicians because that's just useless and pisses off the military branch he's affiliated with. This is all what I've heard from DH who has a guy who has been stop-lossed in his platoon.
bethanybabe 07-07-2008, 09:37 PM I dont think so. We are dealing with a stop loss deployment right now:pukey
Debra 07-07-2008, 09:43 PM I am assuming you mean you are "dying" as in you are sick of the deployment. If that is the case, then no there is probably not a whole lot that can be done. Just deal with the deployment just like everyone else & make the best of it! Having a job or taking up a new hobby can be quite beneficial in helping the time apart a tad bit more bearable(sp).
Now if you are "dying" in the literal sense, then that is a different thing all together.
Hang in there! :hugs
If your love one is stop-lossed there is not stopping it unless there is a medical discharge or a hardship that will allow him/her not to be deployed. Atleast this is what I have heard.
leftover 07-07-2008, 09:45 PM How can they stop loss a person who's already deployed? I'm just going off your siggie..
Fidzy 07-07-2008, 09:49 PM How can they stop loss a person who's already deployed? I'm just going off your siggie..
Yeah I was confused by the situation as well.
Debra 07-07-2008, 09:52 PM How can they stop loss a person who's already deployed? I'm just going off your siggie..
I didn't catch that one! But now I am :puzz!
Maybe because they are extending him? Would that be stop-loss?
settles 07-07-2008, 10:11 PM give us a lil more info... is he deployed? getting extended?
and since you aren't married you def. can't do anything...
Cassaundra 07-07-2008, 10:18 PM so stop-loss is something that happens BEFORE deployment? I am confused and didn't know that at all.
Fidzy 07-07-2008, 10:23 PM so stop-loss is something that happens BEFORE deployment? I am confused and didn't know that at all.
They stop-loss you in order for you to be deployed instead of get out of the military.
Navywife85 07-07-2008, 10:25 PM from what i found this is what it means i was confused by the term
In military terms, "STOP LOSS" means not letting a military member separate or retire, once their required term of service is complete.
STOP LOSS, on the other hand, means extending a military person in the Guard or Reserves, or on active duty, beyond what their normal separation date would be. Those who join the military agree to this provision under paragraph 9c of the enlistment contract states:
In the event of war, my enlistment in the Armed Forces continues until six (6) months after the war ends, unless my enlistment is ended sooner by the President of the United States.
is that what your talking about cuase im way confused
Cassaundra 07-07-2008, 10:32 PM They stop-loss you in order for you to be deployed instead of get out of the military.
bastards....i guess i will have that to look forward to in the next couple years.
leftover 07-07-2008, 10:33 PM and since you aren't married you def. can't do anything...
But she calls herself a wife in her siggie. :puzz
But she calls herself a wife in her siggie. :puzz
According to profile she is engaged
Fidzy 07-07-2008, 10:42 PM According to profile she is engaged
The confusion! :insanity
From reading her threads I THINK that he might be slated to get out in 10 months but is on a 15 month deployment but I am not sure?
Fidzy 07-07-2008, 11:09 PM From reading her threads I THINK that he might be slated to get out in 10 months but is on a 15 month deployment but I am not sure?
Then wouldn't he have been notified of the stop-loss before he left? Once he leaves, I'm pretty sure a stop-loss is a done deal.
IDK I am confused as all of ya'll
leftover 07-07-2008, 11:11 PM Maybe she's confused on the verbage then...
If his contract is up, but his orders aren't wouldn't he have to re-enlist over seas while on AD deployment?
Doesn't that negate a GINORMOUS re-up bonus?
SAMSET 07-08-2008, 02:01 AM Mine is stoplossed....since February '08....and he's deployed right now and will be stoplossed until they come home.....then after 90 days he'll finally be free.
There really isn't anything you can do unfortunately...
rosebud* 07-08-2008, 02:14 AM To answer your question no. They can't be prevented nor avoided. Its in the contract they sign. Usually if you take a re-enlistment which can sometimes come with a bonus you can at least get something out of it rather then be screwed by being stop lossed which currently has no monetary benefit.
Sometimes they don't always tell the MM if he is being stopped lossed until it is close to his get out date. This happened in a squadron DH was in. They were out to sea MM was due to get out before cruise was over. When the time came they didn't want to part with the funds to send him home when they were only 2 months away from coming home, they 'extended' him till end of cruise. He found out about a week before he was due to get out. They don't always have to tell you.
melissa_aimee 07-08-2008, 02:41 AM I am so sorry I'm confusing you all! I haven't been on here since after work! ALL of your comments are extreamly supporting and I love you all!
Him and I are supposed to be married during his R&R, but now since its going from a 15 to 12 months deployment, the dates are all over the place! The thing I was curious about was wether there was something to avoid him from being stop lossed in case that he was -- which is what they're telling him that will happen if things go as planned. DF is deployed right now and now that this news is up in the air, it's making my life so difficult -- I CANT EVEN IMAGINE HOW HE FEELS! :X But, when he gets back, he's only going to have 8 months left on his contract, and the tour would be 12? So that's where I'm guessin the stoploss comes into play?
I hate this :(
TallBlondie82 07-08-2008, 08:07 AM i think he can still be stop lossed...im sorry sweetie
cerau2 07-09-2008, 05:42 PM Mine is stoplossed....since February '08....and he's deployed right now and will be stoplossed until they come home.....then after 90 days he'll finally be free.
There really isn't anything you can do unfortunately...
So is my DF. He was supposed to be able to get out of the army January 4 2008.
MSJackson 07-09-2008, 05:53 PM Maybe she's confused on the verbage then...
If his contract is up, but his orders aren't wouldn't he have to re-enlist over seas while on AD deployment?
Doesn't that negate a GINORMOUS re-up bonus?
I think so. I know my DH said he hopes he is deployed when its time for him to reenlist. I think he mentioned if he was in a tax free zone he could even get the bonus tax free... but I'm not too sure or clear on that one... so don't quote me.
Rainbow Brite 07-09-2008, 05:56 PM Maybe she's confused on the verbage then...
If his contract is up, but his orders aren't wouldn't he have to re-enlist over seas while on AD deployment?
Doesn't that negate a GINORMOUS re-up bonus?
YES, he would have to re-up oconus, and yes, its a HUGE re-enlistment bonus!
Rileysmom 07-09-2008, 05:57 PM I thought being stop-lossed came with a monetary entitlement? I thought I recall someone say 1.5 times that pay? :confuzzle :freakout
TallBlondie82 07-09-2008, 06:06 PM I thought being stop-lossed came with a monetary entitlement? I thought I recall someone say 1.5 times that pay? :confuzzle :freakout
not sure...df said that it is not passed yet, but if this thing gets passed he is going to make soooooo much more a month because he is stop lossed and in Iraq
rosebud* 07-09-2008, 06:08 PM YES, he would have to re-up oconus, and yes, its a HUGE re-enlistment bonus!
he doesn't have to re-enlist he can be stop lossed sans monetary gain. Ask Simmybabez her dh has been stop lossed a few times.
As far as the extra money I don't think that has passed yet. it's supposed to be like an extra grand a month every month you are held.
leftover 07-09-2008, 10:06 PM he doesn't have to re-enlist he can be stop lossed sans monetary gain. Ask Simmybabez her dh has been stop lossed a few times.
As far as the extra money I don't think that has passed yet. it's supposed to be like an extra grand a month every month you are held.
When we got extended, we got an extra grand a month, tax free, for every full 30 days after 12 months... Well, it wasn't exactly a grand it was two separate payments on his LES..
$200 a month in HDP and $800 a month of AIP for a total of $1000 per month which included his staging time in Kuwait..
rosebud* 07-10-2008, 12:15 AM When we got extended, we got an extra grand a month, tax free, for every full 30 days after 12 months... Well, it wasn't exactly a grand it was two separate payments on his LES..
$200 a month in HDP and $800 a month of AIP for a total of $1000 per month which included his staging time in Kuwait..
yours is different though currently AD has no extra monetary gain if they are stop lossed however they are trying to pass something so they get extra every month they are stop lossed.
jen1982 07-10-2008, 12:26 AM YES, he would have to re-up oconus, and yes, its a HUGE re-enlistment bonus!
From my experience, when someone is stop-lossed, they do not have to re-enlist. They do not get a re-enlistment bonus or anything like that, unless they actually re-enlist. If they choose to re-enlist, then they aren't considered to be stop-lossed, but actually serving time that they re-upped to serve. Two of our friends, were stop-lossed 90 days before this last deployment, and reached their ETS dates while deployed in Afghanistan for 15 months. Once they were back, and the 90 days stabilization was finished, they were released, and finished with the Army. I am not sure how it works for all branches, but for the Army at least, if you are stop-lossed, and deployed, you do NOT have to re-enlist. You can if you choose, but it is not a requirement at all.
Heather 07-10-2008, 12:34 AM Maybe it was different for us because he was Navy and the Navy wouldn't let my husband stay but when his time was time up they would have shipped him home if they had still been deployed. My husband mentioned several guys that left during the deployment because they were getting out. Maybe it just depends on the situation and the needs at the time.
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