So if you are 18 or older you can now go to the pharmacy and get the plan b pill. What do you think of it?

I think that's wonderful. :) I couldn't be happier about it.

I think it's Stupid...

you can also go into your bedroom and say..."no sex tonight please...or do you have protection?"

*general you*

just my opinion...I respect anyone else's.

I think it's Stupid...

you can also go into your bedroom and say..."no sex tonight please...or do you have protection?"

*general you*

just my opinion...I respect anyone else's.

What if the condom breaks?

I'm all for it. It's nobody else's fucking business if I wanna drop $50 to prevent a pregnancy I'm not ready for.

eta: It's not something I'd use casually.... but definitely if a condom broke.

if a condom broke with me...I'd start saving for diapers if I got pregnant.. *thats just me though*

I think it is good for a situation that protection was used but was faulty or a situation with someone that maybe forgot once and needed it.

I don't agree with the abuse of it. Meaning someone that takes it as a form a BC every time they have sex.

I have personally used it once because the protection was faulty and we didn't know till after. With that situation of my own I LOVED it!

I cant answer the poll. For me, I could not use it. I am not against others using it though in situations like rape and incest, ect

Birth control is free.... that is the best option, or just dont have sex.

What if the condom breaks?

No joke. I'd rather someone prevent the pregnancy from even starting that bring a child into this world that they weren't ready to care for.

If people disagree, maybe they should seriously consider adopting some of those thousands of unplanned, unwanted children. Just an idea. :shrug

I think it's Stupid...

you can also go into your bedroom and say..."no sex tonight please...or do you have protection?"

*general you*

just my opinion...I respect anyone else's.

Rofl. I suppose you could say that. But I use BC and ... well, sometimes...

I don't agree with it, but know lots of people are...to each their own. But I totally disagree with the abuse of it, and I know MANY people do abuse it.

I think Plan B is amazing if there is an oopsie.

if a condom broke with me...I'd start saving for diapers if I got pregnant.. *thats just me though*


Okay just so you know and you don't think I'm attacking you...I am just honestly curious and you can totally say it's not my business...

Do you use any kind of hormonal BC?

I'm for it.

against it

I cant answer the poll. For me, I could not use it. I am not against others using it though in situations like rape and incest, ect

Birth control is free.... that is the best option, or just dont have sex.


Ummm Plan B is birth control.

Okay just so you know and you don't think I'm attacking you...I am just honestly curious and you can totally say it's not my business...

Do you use any kind of hormonal BC?

I don't use anything, I know that if it were to happen then my husband and I would fully embrace it and go through with it. The only BC I would use is just not doing it. Which 75% of the time...it's when my DH is gone on the countless underways... :-)

and I'm not attacking anyone either just so you know. I simply don't agree with it, and totally dont agree with abusing it. *not saying anyone on here does...*

Good for the
-Condom Broke
-Rape

Bad for
-Too lazy to use birthcontroll

I don't agree with it, but know lots of people are...to each their own. But I totally disagree with the abuse of it, and I know MANY people do abuse it.

I'm honestly not trying to sound like a bitch....

But why are you so opposed to people "abusing" it? I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with overusing it.... but why does it bother you what other people do to their own bodies? If they wanna go pay $50 every time they're "irresponsible" to take a Plan B pill that's gonna give them cramps from hell.... what does it matter to us?

:dunno

Again, not trying to sound snotty.... just trying to better understand your perspective.

I'm all for it. I don't agree with people using it to just use it. I believe it is for those rare occasions where the condom breaks etc. I feel it is a better option than abortion. Not that i'm putting down anyone who has. I'm very much pro choice. I just don't think I could live with myself in that case.

this really should be in debates.

I'm all for it. I don't agree with people using it to just use it. I believe it is for those rare occasions where the condom breaks etc. I feel it is a better option than abortion. Not that i'm putting down anyone who has. I'm very much pro choice. I just don't think I could live with myself in that case.

I definitely agree with you. I think, just based on physiology alone, taking a dose of Plan B IS better than having an abortion. It's far less traumatic for your body. :yes

I don't use anything, I know that if it were to happen then my husband and I would fully embrace it and go through with it. The only BC I would use is just not doing it. Which 75% of the time...it's when my DH is gone on the countless underways... :-)

and I'm not attacking anyone either just so you know. I simply don't agree with it, and totally dont agree with abusing it. *not saying anyone on here does...*

Oh I didn't think you were...I just have one of those I sound like I'm being a bitch tones so I like to clear that up.

Well that's cool if you don't use anything. I just HATE the people who are on birth control and then they say they don't agree with it. Obviously they just don't understand what they are talking about :)

Good for the
-Condom Broke
-Rape

Bad for
-Too lazy to use birthcontroll

:agree :yes

I'm honestly not trying to sound like a bitch....

But why are you so opposed to people "abusing" it? I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with overusing it.... but why does it bother you what other people do to their own bodies? If they wanna go pay $50 every time they're "irresponsible" to take a Plan B pill that's gonna give them cramps from hell.... what does it matter to us?

:dunno

Again, not trying to sound snotty.... just trying to better understand your perspective.

honestly, and I'm glad you pointed this out...it ISN'T my business that someone waste $50.00 to do that to their bodies...so I can't really anwser that. I simply hate seeing someone abuse something that is handed to them. No matter what it is...

I doubt most people even know what it is. Against it? A heavy dose of birth control pills? Really?

I approve of it, have used it in the past, and I have no kids to show for it. Cool with me!

I doubt most people even know what it is. Against it? A heavy dose of birth control pills? Really?

I approve of it, have used it in the past, and I have no kids to show for it. Cool with me!

Yeah that was my thought process...I'm assuming many people probably still mix it up with RU-486.

honestly, and I'm glad you pointed this out...it ISN'T my business that someone waste $50.00 to do that to their bodies...so I can't really anwser that. I simply hate seeing someone abuse something that is handed to them. No matter what it is...

Ahhh.... that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, if someone's abusing the system by receiving a pill paid for by private donations or taxpayers..... when regular BC is just as readily available (and probably cheaper!)..... NOT COOL.

I'll agree with you there. :yes

Oh I didn't think you were...I just have one of those I sound like I'm being a bitch tones so I like to clear that up.

Well that's cool if you don't use anything. I just HATE the people who are on birth control and then they say they don't agree with it. Obviously they just don't understand what they are talking about :)

*hugs* I know alot of people hate it simply cause they have trouble having kids and to see someone go and possible able to have kids, and use that to prevent it. If that makes sense. (partly the reason Im against abortion, however this isn't the thread for that). I used to be one of those people. Walking around yearning to hold a baby, to have a baby say "ma ma" and to see others run to the doc, or drug store to cut off the chance of that :dunno rambling now...but yeah it's painful. Now I am like "whatever" because I've learned people are going to do what they want and no one can change that...weather they voice their opinions or not, you just simply state your opinion and move on :wink

oh and I get that tone ALL THE TIME! LOL...the bitchy tone...

Yeah that was my thought process...I'm assuming many people probably still mix it up with RU-486.

:yes

gotta love our new & improved abstinence-only sex ed classes. :rolleyes

I voted for it. Though I am very neutral. I guess I just don't care all that much because I don't intend to ever use it. But I am glad it is there for people who need it.

I think that's wonderful. :) I couldn't be happier about it.

:agree

I also believe in being responsible. I love that women are having more options become available to them.

i dont agree with it. if you are having sex you can get pregnant, those are the facts. i do see extreme cases that need it though...

i dont agree with it. if you are having sex you can get pregnant, those are the facts. i do see extreme cases that need it though...

Why do I read these threads?

I think deep down, I must really hate myself.

I think it's AWESOME.

i dont agree with it. if you are having sex you can get pregnant, those are the facts. i do see extreme cases that need it though...

Okay I am going to be a broken record for a second. Do you use any kind of hormonal birth control?

Okay I am going to be a broken record for a second. Do you use any kind of hormonal birth control?

no i dont.

no i dont.

So do you think birth control should also not be easily accessible?

I think it's wonderful. For those who have their opinions its your right but the facts are if your wearing a condom and having sex you have a 98% chance of not getting pregnant.
So no if your having sex can you get pregnant, but to also say if the condom breaks and you don't have the money for a baby or the means to raise a child but you were being safe with a condom you should have the ability to prevent a pregnancy before it occurs.
$50 is not a lot in comparison to monthly bills of diapers,formula,clothes,medical,wipes, etc.

I think that's wonderful. :) I couldn't be happier about it.

:agree However, I don't condone casual, frequent use of it. It's a drug and can seriously mess up your system if you use it too often.

:agree However, I don't condone casual, frequent use of it. It's a drug and can seriously mess up your system if you use it too often.

I also agree that you shouldn't be saying every 72 hours lets have unprotected sex because I can just go get plan B. If that's the case you can go get BC at a Planned Parenthood for less than $50 every 4 days.

i dont agree with it. if you are having sex you can get pregnant, those are the facts. i do see extreme cases that need it though...

With that philosophy.... why bother with any birth control at all, ever? :dunno

Why do I read these threads?

I think deep down, I must really hate myself.

:lol

Absolutely for it, no qualifications, no "...only in the case of...," no conditions, no limitations.

For those who are against it: don't use it.

Absolutely for it, no qualifications, no "...only in the case of...," no conditions, no limitations.

For those who are against it: don't use it.

:yes

All for it. Its a better alternative to having an abortion after the baby is already conceived.

And like PP said, if those against it attempted to foster American children trapped in our system, they might re-think allowing it to be used. Not gonna happen. People like to bitch about little thugs and kids who are messing up, but quickly put their hand down when one of those kids needs a warm bed at night.

As far as abusing it, if someone wants to abuse it and ruin their reproductive system, really is that that harsh of a payment? I mean, if they are getting the pill every week then maybe we dont need them reproducing in the first place, just a thought.

All for it. Its a better alternative to having an abortion after the baby is already conceived.

And like PP said, if those against it attempted to foster American children trapped in our system, they might re-think allowing it to be used. Not gonna happen. People like to bitch about little thugs and kids who are messing up, but quickly put their hand down when one of those kids needs a warm bed at night.

As far as abusing it, if someone wants to abuse it and ruin their reproductive system, really is that that harsh of a payment? I mean, if they are getting the pill every week then maybe we dont need them reproducing in the first place, just a thought.

If I had the katrillon dollars to go adopt a child or children in the system, then I would in a heartbeat. I've WORKED in the system, so I know 1st hand how bad it is...

I will say this...I shouldn't have spoken out w/o knowing the facts. I've had many people tell me that Plan B was a form of abortion..or something like that...even drs told me that...so I guess I was mis-informed...however my opinion STILL stands on abusing it.

I still wouldn't use plan b simply cause when I lay down and make love to my husband, I KNOW that the chance of me convieving a baby could be possible...I wouldnt waste(and thats the word in my opinion) $50.00 for some pill to wash away my concerns and worries...JMO.

I'm totally for it, and as far as people abusing it and using it as birth control, plan b does get less effective the more you have to use it (says right on the package) so hopefully people actually read through the info and realize that...

If I had the katrillon dollars to go adopt a child or children in the system, then I would in a heartbeat. I've WORKED in the system, so I know 1st hand how bad it is...

I will say this...I shouldn't have spoken out w/o knowing the facts. I've had many people tell me that Plan B was a form of abortion..or something like that...even drs told me that...so I guess I was mis-informed...however my opinion STILL stands on abusing it.

I still wouldn't use plan b simply cause when I lay down and make love to my husband, I KNOW that the chance of me convieving a baby could be possible...I wouldnt waste(and thats the word in my opinion) $50.00 for some pill to wash away my concerns and worries...JMO.
And I've BEEN in the system.

I never want children. And I want sex. I don't find that selfish, or particularly against any kind of nature, but that God's or anyone elses.

This is a touchy, emotional subject for me. I should specify. Abortion/Plan B is not touchy and emotional. But the system/adoption. Tough one for me. I was lucky. REALLY, REALLY blessed and LUCKY. About 125,000 other kids aren't.

:sigh

Why do I read these threads?

I think deep down, I must really hate myself.

:rofl

Gah! I have so many different views on this. What is the one purpose of sex? To concieve people! LoL. I really think sex has lost its purpose. I am against abortions, unless a child is forced upon you. I guess if your stupid enough to take this pill then its better for the child that could possibly be brought into this world to not be. I think people tend to forget what comes with sex, the responsiblity of sex. They think they are old enough to make that decision, yet, forget to go in depth on it. Your right tiffluv, if people want to abuse it, its their problem.

It doesnt cost a "katrillion" dollars to become foster parents. If you worked in the system you and I both know that. :) Most people choose to look away like the problems dont actually exist in our country. We want quick results without the effort on our own part. We want to throw the 18 year old petty thief in jail instead of looking at how we could have prevented the problem to begin with. I think plan b gives "some" of the woman out there a choice about whether or not they are ready, and also sometimes accidents happen, they just do. God gave us a brain to use for a reason, to solve problems on our own. I dont think that plan b should be considered an "abortion" pill.

And I've BEEN in the system.

I never want children. And I want sex. I don't find that selfish, or particularly against any kind of nature, but that God's or anyone elses.

This is a touchy, emotional subject for me.

:sigh

I totally respect your opinions and feelings. I wasn't so much in the system as I was tossed around it all my life. My parents divorced when I was 2, my mom came in and out of my life, countless court dates, fighting over something that had nothing to do with us, it was only about control over the other, and then my stepmom adopted us, and my mom signed her rights over a huge big mess. Thankfully I never saw the inside of a foster home, but my mom foster-parented it at some point and I saw all that...so I too know what its like.

I don't see not wanting kids but wanting sex as selfish...only knowing exactly what you want and thats a good trait to have.

It doesnt cost a "katrillion" dollars to become foster parents. If you worked in the system you and I both know that. :) Most people choose to look away like the problems dont actually exist in our country. We want quick results without the effort on our own part. We want to throw the 18 year old petty thief in jail instead of looking at how we could have prevented the problem to begin with. I think plan b gives "some" of the woman out there a choice about whether or not they are ready, and also sometimes accidents happen, they just do. God gave us a brain to use for a reason, to solve problems on our own. I dont think that plan b should be considered an "abortion" pill.

when I said Katrillon dollars I was talking about ADOPTING :-) not fostering..
the only thing stopping DH and I from fostering is the fact that Im home alone, and hes underway all the time. Once we get shore duty we are looking to look into both fostering AND adopting :-)

I think this is another one of those topics that can be beat to death a million times and STILL come out how it was when the question was 1st asked lol

when I said Katrillon dollars I was talking about ADOPTING :-) not fostering..
the only thing stopping DH and I from fostering is the fact that Im home alone, and hes underway all the time. Once we get shore duty we are looking to look into both fostering AND adopting :-)

I think fostering kids is an awesome thing. (L)

I totally respect your opinions and feelings. I wasn't so much in the system as I was tossed around it all my life. My parents divorced when I was 2, my mom came in and out of my life, countless court dates, fighting over something that had nothing to do with us, it was only about control over the other, and then my stepmom adopted us, and my mom signed her rights over a huge big mess. Thankfully I never saw the inside of a foster home, but my mom foster-parented it at some point and I saw all that...so I too know what its like.

I don't see not wanting kids but wanting sex as selfish...only knowing exactly what you want and thats a good trait to have.
Okay, I TOTALLY see what you are saying, re-reading your posts. :) I try to make informed decisions, I know exactly what I want out of life, and children at no point are something I want. But I take multiple precautions so that I can lead the life I want.

Sometimes when you get all emotionally connected to a topic, you... well, forget how to read. That's me!

:hugs

I think it is a good idea if an initial for of protection is faulty. But to use it just so you dont have to use a condom is rediculous. I think like a lot of things there are times when I see it ok to use but other times when there isnt.

Okay, I TOTALLY see what you are saying, re-reading your posts. :) I try to make informed decisions, I know exactly what I want out of life, and children at no point are something I want. But I take multiple precautions so that I can lead the life I want.

Sometimes when you get all emotionally connected to a topic, you... well, forget how to read. That's me!

:hugs

:hugs I get like that alot as well. no worries.

I think fostering kids is an awesome thing. (L)

me too, I used to have a dream of opening my own foster home. Like buy a mansion and open it up to foster kids, treat them as my own and me the "mother" to them all. Help with school work, and give them a postive life, despite them being in the system. That dream isn't dead...I just can't afford a mansion yet :wink Great thing is DH supports my decision and feels the same way!

All for it. Its a better alternative to having an abortion after the baby is already conceived.

And like PP said, if those against it attempted to foster American children trapped in our system, they might re-think allowing it to be used. Not gonna happen. People like to bitch about little thugs and kids who are messing up, but quickly put their hand down when one of those kids needs a warm bed at night.

As far as abusing it, if someone wants to abuse it and ruin their reproductive system, really is that that harsh of a payment? I mean, if they are getting the pill every week then maybe we dont need them reproducing in the first place, just a thought.

Couldn't agree more. :yes

If I had the katrillon dollars to go adopt a child or children in the system, then I would in a heartbeat. I've WORKED in the system, so I know 1st hand how bad it is...

I will say this...I shouldn't have spoken out w/o knowing the facts. I've had many people tell me that Plan B was a form of abortion..or something like that...even drs told me that...so I guess I was mis-informed...however my opinion STILL stands on abusing it.

I still wouldn't use plan b simply cause when I lay down and make love to my husband, I KNOW that the chance of me convieving a baby could be possible...I wouldnt waste(and thats the word in my opinion) $50.00 for some pill to wash away my concerns and worries...JMO.

For a lot of people, opinions & religious beliefs STILL trump science. Technically, you're not aborting... you're either preventing an egg from being released, preventing the egg & sperm from joining, or preventing a fertilized egg (if taken REALLY late) from implanting on the uterine wall. From the FDA website:

http://www.fda.gov/CDER/DRUG/infopage/planB/planBQandA.htm

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

Gah! I have so many different views on this. What is the one purpose of sex? To concieve people! LoL. I really think sex has lost its purpose. I am against abortions, unless a child is forced upon you. I guess if your stupid enough to take this pill then its better for the child that could possibly be brought into this world to not be. I think people tend to forget what comes with sex, the responsiblity of sex. They think they are old enough to make that decision, yet, forget to go in depth on it. Your right tiffluv, if people want to abuse it, its their problem.

You're kidding, right? I fail to see how being RESPONSIBLE enough to recognize that you are NOT equipped to bring a child into this world (ESPECIALLY in cases of broken condoms, or where other BC methods were utilized) makes a person "stupid."

I'd MUCH rather have an unwanted pregnancy be PREVENTED than to have a bunch of babies born to parents who are ill-equipped to care for them.

:rolleyes

No joke. I'd rather someone prevent the pregnancy from even starting that bring a child into this world that they weren't ready to care for.

If people disagree, maybe they should seriously consider adopting some of those thousands of unplanned, unwanted children. Just an idea. :shrug

I couldnt :agree more...I dont see abusing it as something acceptable but in necessary situations where plan A fails I dont see a problem with it. I know for a fact that I am not ready for a child right now nor can I afford one. I would rather take a tiny little pill as a preventative measure rather than bringing a child into the world that I am not ready for or can support. Thats just me though.

I am not really kidding, but let me word this differently. If you need to take the plan B pill, better off for the possible "fetus." If you need to take it, you obviously dont need children. It better than an abortion.

I am not really kidding, but let me word this differently. If you need to take the plan B pill, better off for the possible "fetus." If you need to take it, you obviously dont need children. It better than an abortion.

:rolleyes I really don't have anything nice left to say to you.

So, here, maybe you would like to adopt a few of the THOUSANDS of children in this country whose parents weren't ready or capable of caring for them.....

http://www.adoption.com/

http://www.adoptuskids.org/

http://www.adopting.org/

http://www.adoption.org/

http://www.adopt.org/assembled/home.html

You're kidding, right? I fail to see how being RESPONSIBLE enough to recognize that you are NOT equipped to bring a child into this world (ESPECIALLY in cases of broken condoms, or where other BC methods were utilized) makes a person "stupid."

I'd MUCH rather have an unwanted pregnancy be PREVENTED than to have a bunch of babies born to parents who are ill-equipped to care for them.

:rolleyes

I'm so glad you responded to her. At the end of everything I tried to write it just ended with me banging on me keys a bunch of times and lots of things written in caps. hehe

I'm so glad you responded to her. At the end of everything I tried to write it just ended with me banging on me keys a bunch of times and lots of things written in caps. hehe

Same here :rofl

I am not really kidding, but let me word this differently. If you need to take the plan B pill, better off for the possible "fetus." If you need to take it, you obviously dont need children. It better than an abortion.

..wait what...im confused...?

I'm so glad you responded to her. At the end of everything I tried to write it just ended with me banging on me keys a bunch of times and lots of things written in caps. hehe

Same here :rofl

I'm glad I'm not the only one.....

jesus christ on a cracker :gaah

Couldn't agree more. :yes



For a lot of people, opinions & religious beliefs STILL trump science. Technically, you're not aborting... you're either preventing an egg from being released, preventing the egg & sperm from joining, or preventing a fertilized egg (if taken REALLY late) from implanting on the uterine wall. From the FDA website:

http://www.fda.gov/CDER/DRUG/infopage/planB/planBQandA.htm





You're kidding, right? I fail to see how being RESPONSIBLE enough to recognize that you are NOT equipped to bring a child into this world (ESPECIALLY in cases of broken condoms, or where other BC methods were utilized) makes a person "stupid."

I'd MUCH rather have an unwanted pregnancy be PREVENTED than to have a bunch of babies born to parents who are ill-equipped to care for them.

:rolleyes


agreed....

I think if you need it in an emergency. Now if you have unprotected sex all the time and the Pharamicist knows your first name bc you are always getting it, then no I do not agree

Couldn't agree more. :yes



For a lot of people, opinions & religious beliefs STILL trump science. Technically, you're not aborting... you're either preventing an egg from being released, preventing the egg & sperm from joining, or preventing a fertilized egg (if taken REALLY late) from implanting on the uterine wall. From the FDA website:

http://www.fda.gov/CDER/DRUG/infopage/planB/planBQandA.htm





You're kidding, right? I fail to see how being RESPONSIBLE enough to recognize that you are NOT equipped to bring a child into this world (ESPECIALLY in cases of broken condoms, or where other BC methods were utilized) makes a person "stupid."

I'd MUCH rather have an unwanted pregnancy be PREVENTED than to have a bunch of babies born to parents who are ill-equipped to care for them.

:rolleyes

Thanks for that info. :hugs

You're kidding, right? I fail to see how being RESPONSIBLE enough to recognize that you are NOT equipped to bring a child into this world (ESPECIALLY in cases of broken condoms, or where other BC methods were utilized) makes a person "stupid."

I'd MUCH rather have an unwanted pregnancy be PREVENTED than to have a bunch of babies born to parents who are ill-equipped to care for them.

:rolleyes

:agree

Gah! I have so many different views on this. What is the one purpose of sex? To concieve people! LoL. I really think sex has lost its purpose. I am against abortions, unless a child is forced upon you. I guess if your stupid enough to take this pill then its better for the child that could possibly be brought into this world to not be. I think people tend to forget what comes with sex, the responsiblity of sex. They think they are old enough to make that decision, yet, forget to go in depth on it. Your right tiffluv, if people want to abuse it, its their problem.

I am not really kidding, but let me word this differently. If you need to take the plan B pill, better off for the possible "fetus." If you need to take it, you obviously dont need children. It better than an abortion.


:puzz
:no I can't even begin to say what I really want to say to this.
I'll agree with Amberly that I just want to bang my keyboard and leave it in caps with some not nice words.

aaaahahhahaha "Jesus Christ on a cracker" HILARIOUS!!!!!!

I think if you need it in an emergency. Now if you have unprotected sex all the time and the Pharamicist knows your first name bc you are always getting it, then no I do not agree

Why not?

No limitations, no conditions. If that's how someone chooses to use it, that's up to them.

Thanks for that info. :hugs

Anytime! It can be confusing with all the different crap you hear.... but I figure the FDA is a pretty legitimate source :teehee

If you click on the link, it tells you all about the pill. :)

aaaahahhahaha "Jesus Christ on a cracker" HILARIOUS!!!!!!

I'm probably going to hell. :dunno

Anytime! It can be confusing with all the different crap you hear.... but I figure the FDA is a pretty legitimate source :teehee

If you click on the link, it tells you all about the pill. :)

Yeah, I feel a little bad about speaking out before I read everything, but for the most part everything I've said still stands :-) I appreciate someone who can help educate someone who doesn't know :hugs
I'm probably going to hell. :dunno

ahhh, :giggle I think many of us will pass that gate :thinking

I'm probably going to hell. :dunno


remember what i said:D

remember what i said:D

CARPOOL!!!!! :woot

I'm all for it. If you don't agree with it .. uh don't use it :tu

Gah! I have so many different views on this. What is the one purpose of sex? To concieve people! LoL. I really think sex has lost its purpose. I am against abortions, unless a child is forced upon you. I guess if your stupid enough to take this pill then its better for the child that could possibly be brought into this world to not be. I think people tend to forget what comes with sex, the responsiblity of sex. They think they are old enough to make that decision, yet, forget to go in depth on it. Your right tiffluv, if people want to abuse it, its their problem.

So you only have sex to have a child? I feel sorry for you and your man.

Even religious people have sex after they are married and it is not to have a baby. Sex is Sex. Sometimes as a result of sex, you concieve a child.

CARPOOL!!!!! :woot


for sure...with some frolicking

I agree, I dont see sex as the main purpose to have a kid. It goes MUCH further than that.

I am for it. I am a married woman with choices and I am done having kids and if I needed the Plan B I would not hesitate to use it. However, if I am further along when I found out I was preggo then would have the baby because I "personally" don't believe in abortion for me but if I can prevent an implantation then that is my choice.

I think that if the condom breaks or you're raped, then it is a valuable resource.

I think that for myself I would much rather take a pill than further on need an abortion

I think that using it in place of any sort of bc (pills, condoms, etc.) is a misuse but its your body, go for it!

No joke. I'd rather someone prevent the pregnancy from even starting that bring a child into this world that they weren't ready to care for.

If people disagree, maybe they should seriously consider adopting some of those thousands of unplanned, unwanted children. Just an idea. :shrug

Agreed!

I don't use anything, I know that if it were to happen then my husband and I would fully embrace it and go through with it. The only BC I would use is just not doing it. Which 75% of the time...it's when my DH is gone on the countless underways... :-)

and I'm not attacking anyone either just so you know. I simply don't agree with it, and totally dont agree with abusing it. *not saying anyone on here does...*

That's the thing..you're married. You're in a stable relationship with a steady income. What if you had sex without someone you weren't committed to or SO that freaked out and left? Things happen. Take a look around. It's more common than you think.

You'd most likely need to use Welfare, Wic, Food Stamps and go after the Biological father for child support. He may or may not pay, but if he does..who's to say he wants anything to do with your child? Do you really want to bring a child into that type of environment? In general..

I would much rather someone abuse it then have a ton of kids that they cannot care for properly, because they don't believe in abortions or they don't agree with the pill or feel like they are abusing it.


You're kidding, right? I fail to see how being RESPONSIBLE enough to recognize that you are NOT equipped to bring a child into this world (ESPECIALLY in cases of broken condoms, or where other BC methods were utilized) makes a person "stupid."

I'd MUCH rather have an unwanted pregnancy be PREVENTED than to have a bunch of babies born to parents who are ill-equipped to care for them.

:rolleyes

:yes

I agree, I dont see sex as the main purpose to have a kid. It goes MUCH further than that.

I agree.

I think it would be good for someone who was raped. If I were raped I would not want to have a pregnancy come out of it. That's just me though.

I also think that it would be ok for someone where the BC was faulty.

I do not agree w/ it being used carelessly and as a form of normal birth control.

Good for the
-Condom Broke
-Rape

Bad for
-Too lazy to use birthcontroll

agreed

I am FOR any and all forms of contraception!
Plan B especially! If someone is willing to take this pill and NOT wanting to be pregnant then they should, by all means, be allowed to NOT have kids, eh!!

That being said - I've taken plan B 4 times...though I WAS on BC pills I was still freaked when my husband came home on leave during deployment that I'd get pregnant, again (after a few kids and many failed BC efforts you get paranoid) ... so it gave me peace of mind.
And after the baby was born and I had my tubes tied he was suppose to come home 6 months later so I didn't have any pills I was taking, etc (and condoms and spermacides, etc, have proven to FAIL miserably) - not even 2 weeks later my husband came home early due to injury and I got 2 more pills just to be able to make it through that "adjustment" post surgery time without having to worry.

DidI really have to take it all those 4 times - heck no! But it helped me sleep at night!!

I have 3 kids from failed BC
* condoms break.
* Spermacide isn't always as effective as it should be.
* Sometimes you don't remember to take your pills - and even if you do sometimes your body doesn't handle them like they say it should! I actually got pregnant twice on BC pills- without missing a dose (one miscarriage) before my Dr's figured that my body (due to an -at that time - undiagnosed intestinal disorder) wasn't absorbing all of what i was eating. So my dose from the pills was only a percentage of what was necessary for them to really work.

I am all for it preventing pregnancy. If the condom broke and i am concern that i might be pregnant i might use the plan b.

you said that you can NOW get it at a pharmacy? i thought you could before as well.. and you don't even have to be 18 actually.

you said that you can NOW get it at a pharmacy? i thought you could before as well.. and you don't even have to be 18 actually.

Actually you can now get it with out a prescription. I think that is what all the hoopla is about.

I think it's ok... once you are 18 you can take yourself to the MD without parental consent and get other prescriptions. So it's now the same with this med. You have to start giving teenages/young adults their time when they can start doing things on their own so they can take responsibility for themselves.

Now... girls being able to abuse the plan b drug... that's another story!

Actually you can now get it with out a prescription. I think that is what all the hoopla is about.

that's crazy. i just know a girl that got it a few years back and all the pharmacist asked was if she has taken it before and some other questions, it's been awhile since we talked about it. but i think she was 17 at the time.

I think it's ok... once you are 18 you can take yourself to the MD without parental consent and get other prescriptions. So it's now the same with this med. You have to start giving teenages/young adults their time when they can start doing things on their own so they can take responsibility for themselves.

Now... girls being able to abuse the plan b drug... that's another story!

it's less and less effective each time you take it.

Gah! I have so many different views on this. What is the one purpose of sex? To concieve people! LoL. I really think sex has lost its purpose. I am against abortions, unless a child is forced upon you. I guess if your stupid enough to take this pill then its better for the child that could possibly be brought into this world to not be. I think people tend to forget what comes with sex, the responsiblity of sex. They think they are old enough to make that decision, yet, forget to go in depth on it. Your right tiffluv, if people want to abuse it, its their problem.

What about the people who are doing it for their future children? I have used it before...but it was to make sure that the 2 children I have ARE taken care of...we don't have the resources to take care of 3 children, so i used it.

But according to your logic that makes me stupid, huh?

:rolleyes

But according to your logic that makes me stupid, huh?

:rolleyes

:yay I'm stupid too! :bliss Let's make blinkies.. Nothing like getting some nice name calling from the newbs.. :screwy

I've used it, I've purchased it for my little sister, I think it's great.

Has anyone else freaked out the next day after getting a look at Coyote Ugly next to you, and taken, like, 3 or 4 BC pills thinking it'll work? :wavey I have in my younger days. It's much better to know that there is a dosed and measured alternative that's safe..

But I'm not on BC now, so I don't plan on using it..

Heidi is funny. :wub I (L) her

I'm glad I'm not the only one.....

jesus christ on a cracker :gaah

So this made me start craving cheese and crackers. Don't think I'd eat Jesus flavored cheese though.

As for the actual question, I am totally for it. While I don't really like the thought of girls going and getting it because they aren't even trying to have safe sex, it's their body and I don't really give a shit what they do with it. My roommate's best friend does this. She cycles through pharmacies so that they don't recognize her. I think she's stupid for not trying to use condoms or to use BC which is much cheaper. But then again, I'm also glad she's not raising a child.

As for me, I used it once with an ex when we were stupid and had unprotected sex in the heat of the moment. I'm SO glad I don't have a child with him. And in all honesty, I will probably use it down the road when DH comes home on R&R (for the deployment he hasn't left for yet lol). We have a baby on the way that we will be able to take care of, but it will be a struggle at first. We don't want another baby for 5 years (not that our plan will work like that, but that's our goal), and this one was conceived on BC, so I'm not going to take any chances at having another one SO close to this one.

All animals share one basic instinct. SEX.
Humans are animals. Therefore... we want SEX.

We WANT it... not just to make babies. Humans are fortunate in that having sex isn't always about making babies.
If it were ONLY about making babies... then unlike SO MANY OTHER ANIMALS, we wouldn't feel amazing when our clitoruses get rubbed... when our nippled get tweaked... when our necks get sucked on... when our ears get er whatever it is people like done to their ears... when we HOLD HANDS... we are DESIGNED to enjoy sex.

No matter how you look at it... having sex isn't about "only doing it when you want a baby" or "when you are mature enough to handle the CONSEQUENCES" ... no. Sex is about being a human... giving in to a basic instinct... NEED. Sex is a human need... we ALL feel that need. Especially when we can't have sex. That is why the vibrator and dildo business is so booming. That is why porn is sold in your gas station.

I find it pretty amusing that people are so against plan B and even abortion because "well you laid in your bed and now you have to make it" (haha.. get it?) But so often those SAME people always gripe about all the children lost to the foster system... all the children who will NEVER BE ADOPTED... all the children who, because of how they WEREN'T raised, are now criminals just trying to make it the only way they know how.

What I find fascinating is.... Birth control is not a new thing. Humans have been trying to control birth for as long as they figured out that have sex quite often leads to a baby. It is only just now that science has finally found a way to basically perfect that control that people are making this huge stink about it (save for... the cathlics? who believe every sperm is sacred or whatever... I don't know who that is that refused birth control of ANY sort (condoms and such))

plan B is just what humans have been working towards for longer than our grandparents can remember. They have been working for it because EVERY HUMAN WANTS SEX. we all can't HAVE babies though.... there IS a population issue as I recall.

I am completely for plan B. I am for whatever it takes for people to be responsible when mistakes happen. I'd much prefer someone take a plan B pill than have a child they can't raise who grows into a spiteful adult mad at the world for the crap life they were handed.

Taking care of a child goes beyond just giving them diapers or food. Taking care of a child means giving them LOVE and ATTENTION. to teach them right from wrong. Those who take plan B recognize that they can not adequately give that. I don't CARE if you can support a child financially... if you can't support them emotionally, mentally... then you aren't the best candidate. That isn't to say you CANT EVER.... plenty have discovered they CAN... but those who recognize that inability are MUCH MORE RESPONSIBLE for taking plan B then trying to fool themselves into thinking they can raise a happy and well adjusted child from a homelife that doesn't have the attention and love it needs.

I think it's great for those who have an 'oops' moment but want to keep it somewhat quiet and confidential. There's no more waiting for doctor appt's... the sooner you take it the more effective it is.

Oh and I guess I'm one of the stupid ones myself.... Woot!

I whole heartedly support OTC Plan B. I know a few people who have used it. From what I gather, it is not the most pleasant experience. However, the $$ and discomfort are probably well worth avoiding an unplanned pregnancy.

Gah! I have so many different views on this. What is the one purpose of sex? To concieve people! LoL. I really think sex has lost its purpose. I am against abortions, unless a child is forced upon you. I guess if your stupid enough to take this pill then its better for the child that could possibly be brought into this world to not be. I think people tend to forget what comes with sex, the responsiblity of sex. They think they are old enough to make that decision, yet, forget to go in depth on it. Your right tiffluv, if people want to abuse it, its their problem.

Wow, so since I can't get pregnant, and sex is for baby making, I shouldn't be having sex at all? I'll have to let my husband know. :rolleyes

All animals share one basic instinct. SEX.
Humans are animals. Therefore... we want SEX.

We WANT it... not just to make babies. Humans are fortunate in that having sex isn't always about making babies.
If it were ONLY about making babies... then unlike SO MANY OTHER ANIMALS, we wouldn't feel amazing when our clitoruses get rubbed... when our nippled get tweaked... when our necks get sucked on... when our ears get er whatever it is people like done to their ears... when we HOLD HANDS... we are DESIGNED to enjoy sex.

No matter how you look at it... having sex isn't about "only doing it when you want a baby" or "when you are mature enough to handle the CONSEQUENCES" ... no. Sex is about being a human... giving in to a basic instinct... NEED. Sex is a human need... we ALL feel that need. Especially when we can't have sex. That is why the vibrator and dildo business is so booming. That is why porn is sold in your gas station.

I find it pretty amusing that people are so against plan B and even abortion because "well you laid in your bed and now you have to make it" (haha.. get it?) But so often those SAME people always gripe about all the children lost to the foster system... all the children who will NEVER BE ADOPTED... all the children who, because of how they WEREN'T raised, are now criminals just trying to make it the only way they know how.

What I find fascinating is.... Birth control is not a new thing. Humans have been trying to control birth for as long as they figured out that have sex quite often leads to a baby. It is only just now that science has finally found a way to basically perfect that control that people are making this huge stink about it (save for... the cathlics? who believe every sperm is sacred or whatever... I don't know who that is that refused birth control of ANY sort (condoms and such))

plan B is just what humans have been working towards for longer than our grandparents can remember. They have been working for it because EVERY HUMAN WANTS SEX. we all can't HAVE babies though.... there IS a population issue as I recall.

I am completely for plan B. I am for whatever it takes for people to be responsible when mistakes happen. I'd much prefer someone take a plan B pill than have a child they can't raise who grows into a spiteful adult mad at the world for the crap life they were handed.

Taking care of a child goes beyond just giving them diapers or food. Taking care of a child means giving them LOVE and ATTENTION. to teach them right from wrong. Those who take plan B recognize that they can not adequately give that. I don't CARE if you can support a child financially... if you can't support them emotionally, mentally... then you aren't the best candidate. That isn't to say you CANT EVER.... plenty have discovered they CAN... but those who recognize that inability are MUCH MORE RESPONSIBLE for taking plan B then trying to fool themselves into thinking they can raise a happy and well adjusted child from a homelife that doesn't have the attention and love it needs.

I freaking (L) YOU.

I'm all for it. I wish there weren't those women who will use it as a form of Birth Control, but for those who won't, and would just use it if a condom breaks or something, I think it's a good thing.

It's not available in Colorado I don't think.

Gah! I have so many different views on this. What is the one purpose of sex? To concieve people! LoL. I really think sex has lost its purpose. I am against abortions, unless a child is forced upon you. I guess if your stupid enough to take this pill then its better for the child that could possibly be brought into this world to not be. I think people tend to forget what comes with sex, the responsiblity of sex. They think they are old enough to make that decision, yet, forget to go in depth on it. Your right tiffluv, if people want to abuse it, its their problem.

Stupid enough to take the pill? How about smart enough to realize that a condom breaking can change everything, and maybe you're not ready for that kind of change?

I guess I should stop sleeping with my DF since we aren't trying to concieve yet. Are you trying to make babies EVERY SINGLE TIME your man puts it in you?

I think it is good to have on hand. Many women that have been assaulted do not want to go through a rape kit now they can just go to the pharm and get it on their own.

As for other people using it. I don't care its not my body, not my choice. What other people do to THEIR body does not effect me, its legal there fore everyone who is NOT in that body should butt the heck out. If you don't "believe" in it then don't take it. Choice it IS that friggin simple.

All the peeps that are pro-life EXCEPT for rape boggle my mind SO what makes THAT child less worthy then ALL of the other children? If you are going to be pro-life then be pro-life if you have exceptions to your pro-life stance then that makes you pro-choice.

*hugs* I know alot of people hate it simply cause they have trouble having kids and to see someone go and possible able to have kids, and use that to prevent it. If that makes sense. (partly the reason Im against abortion, however this isn't the thread for that). I used to be one of those people. Walking around yearning to hold a baby, to have a baby say "ma ma" and to see others run to the doc, or drug store to cut off the chance of that :dunno rambling now...but yeah it's painful. Now I am like "whatever" because I've learned people are going to do what they want and no one can change that...weather they voice their opinions or not, you just simply state your opinion and move on :wink

oh and I get that tone ALL THE TIME! LOL...the bitchy tone...

What does their fertility have to do with anyone else's sex life though. Plan B is a heavy dose of hormonal birth control. It is not RU-486. Even if it was again what does someone else's sex life have to do with someone else's infertility though. There are thousands of children in foster care needing a home, they could have someone calling them momma if they went that route.

I guess I should stop sleeping with my DF since we aren't trying to concieve yet. Are you trying to make babies EVERY SINGLE TIME your man puts it in you?

:lmao

It doesnt cost a "katrillion" dollars to become foster parents. If you worked in the system you and I both know that. :) Most people choose to look away like the problems dont actually exist in our country. We want quick results without the effort on our own part. We want to throw the 18 year old petty thief in jail instead of looking at how we could have prevented the problem to begin with. I think plan b gives "some" of the woman out there a choice about whether or not they are ready, and also sometimes accidents happen, they just do. God gave us a brain to use for a reason, to solve problems on our own. I dont think that plan b should be considered an "abortion" pill.

Yep I know I looked up Arizona foster to adopt and it is very affordable if you adopt via the system. There are even grants and things to help you in the process.

Wow, so since I can't get pregnant, and sex is for baby making, I shouldn't be having sex at all? I'll have to let my husband know. :rolleyes




:giggle

I am against abortion, but ok with Plan B. Plan B works to prevent fertilization and implantation.....much like an IUD.

when I said Katrillon dollars I was talking about ADOPTING :-) not fostering..
the only thing stopping DH and I from fostering is the fact that Im home alone, and hes underway all the time. Once we get shore duty we are looking to look into both fostering AND adopting :-)

Adopting through foster care is not expensive:

In most states foster parents who train to foster children ages 0-5 are to be willing to adopt the child if reunification with the birth family is not possible. Usually, the state department of human services pays for the adoption legal fees and the child receives Medicaid until they are 18. In some cases, depending on the child’s needs, a monthly subsidy is given to the adoptive family after the adoption. This subsidy is based on the child’s emotional, developmental, mental and physical needs. There are many other resources for adoptive families of these children that do not cost the foster adopt family any money. As the child grows and other needs arise, the subsidy amount can be revised.

That is just one of MANY articles about it and they all say the same thing.

I think it is good to have on hand. Many women that have been assaulted do not want to go through a rape kit now they can just go to the pharm and get it on their own.

As for other people using it. I don't care its not my body, not my choice. What other people do to THEIR body does not effect me, its legal there fore everyone who is NOT in that body should butt the heck out. If you don't "believe" in it then don't take it. Choice it IS that friggin simple.

All the peeps that are pro-life EXCEPT for rape boggle my mind SO what makes THAT child less worthy then ALL of the other children? If you are going to be pro-life then be pro-life if you have exceptions to your pro-life stance then that makes you pro-choice.

:hail :hail :hail

I'm pro-choice, I think if someone wants to deal with the side effects of having your period forced on you everytime they have sex then hey its their pain to deal with.
I think Plan-B is awesome. If it had been available when I was younger I probably would have used it a time or 2.
I'm with eelo, no conditions or limitations.

That is great information Jamie. Adam and I have talked about fostering here in AZ. :tu

I think it is good to have on hand. Many women that have been assaulted do not want to go through a rape kit now they can just go to the pharm and get it on their own.

As for other people using it. I don't care its not my body, not my choice. What other people do to THEIR body does not effect me, its legal there fore everyone who is NOT in that body should butt the heck out. If you don't "believe" in it then don't take it. Choice it IS that friggin simple.

All the peeps that are pro-life EXCEPT for rape boggle my mind SO what makes THAT child less worthy then ALL of the other children? If you are going to be pro-life then be pro-life if you have exceptions to your pro-life stance then that makes you pro-choice.

Very well said.

That is great information Jamie. Adam and I have talked about fostering here in AZ. :tu

You would be a GREAT foster momma! here is the foster website for AZ. https://www.azdes.gov/dcyf/adoption/

You would be a GREAT foster momma! here is the foster website for AZ. https://www.azdes.gov/dcyf/adoption/

Awww thanks! Fostering and adopting is something that people in both my family and Adam's family have done, so it was always an option for us. We planned on at least fostering and probably adopting even if we had kids of our own.

Awww thanks! Fostering and adopting is something that people in both my family and Adam's family have done, so it was always an option for us. We planned on at least fostering and probably adopting even if we had kids of our own.

Wow.... those would be some lucky, lucky kids. :yes

:yay I'm stupid too! :bliss Let's make blinkies.. Nothing like getting some nice name calling from the newbs.. :screwy

I've used it, I've purchased it for my little sister, I think it's great.

Has anyone else freaked out the next day after getting a look at Coyote Ugly next to you, and taken, like, 3 or 4 BC pills thinking it'll work? :wavey I have in my younger days. It's much better to know that there is a dosed and measured alternative that's safe..

But I'm not on BC now, so I don't plan on using it..

Heidi is funny. :wub I (L) her

I (L) you too!!!!!

I think it is good to have on hand. Many women that have been assaulted do not want to go through a rape kit now they can just go to the pharm and get it on their own.

As for other people using it. I don't care its not my body, not my choice. What other people do to THEIR body does not effect me, its legal there fore everyone who is NOT in that body should butt the heck out. If you don't "believe" in it then don't take it. Choice it IS that friggin simple.

All the peeps that are pro-life EXCEPT for rape boggle my mind SO what makes THAT child less worthy then ALL of the other children? If you are going to be pro-life then be pro-life if you have exceptions to your pro-life stance then that makes you pro-choice.

Yep. The hypocrisy makes me giggle.

You would be a GREAT foster momma! here is the foster website for AZ. https://www.azdes.gov/dcyf/adoption/

I agree. I'd totally sneak into the system so I could have you as foster parents :rofl

you said that you can NOW get it at a pharmacy? i thought you could before as well.. and you don't even have to be 18 actually.

I don't know about other states but in CA you have to be of age. Or you have to have a parents consent.

I'm all for it. It's nobody else's fucking business if I wanna drop $50 to prevent a pregnancy I'm not ready for.

eta: It's not something I'd use casually.... but definitely if a condom broke.

No joke. I'd rather someone prevent the pregnancy from even starting that bring a child into this world that they weren't ready to care for.

If people disagree, maybe they should seriously consider adopting some of those thousands of unplanned, unwanted children. Just an idea. :shrug

:agree However, I don't condone casual, frequent use of it. It's a drug and can seriously mess up your system if you use it too often.

Absolutely for it, no qualifications, no "...only in the case of...," no conditions, no limitations.

For those who are against it: don't use it.

I'm all for it. If you don't agree with it .. uh don't use it :tu

So you only have sex to have a child? I feel sorry for you and your man.

Even religious people have sex after they are married and it is not to have a baby. Sex is Sex. Sometimes as a result of sex, you concieve a child.

I am all for it preventing pregnancy. If the condom broke and i am concern that i might be pregnant i might use the plan b.

All animals share one basic instinct. SEX.
Humans are animals. Therefore... we want SEX.

We WANT it... not just to make babies. Humans are fortunate in that having sex isn't always about making babies.
If it were ONLY about making babies... then unlike SO MANY OTHER ANIMALS, we wouldn't feel amazing when our clitoruses get rubbed... when our nippled get tweaked... when our necks get sucked on... when our ears get er whatever it is people like done to their ears... when we HOLD HANDS... we are DESIGNED to enjoy sex.

No matter how you look at it... having sex isn't about "only doing it when you want a baby" or "when you are mature enough to handle the CONSEQUENCES" ... no. Sex is about being a human... giving in to a basic instinct... NEED. Sex is a human need... we ALL feel that need. Especially when we can't have sex. That is why the vibrator and dildo business is so booming. That is why porn is sold in your gas station.

I find it pretty amusing that people are so against plan B and even abortion because "well you laid in your bed and now you have to make it" (haha.. get it?) But so often those SAME people always gripe about all the children lost to the foster system... all the children who will NEVER BE ADOPTED... all the children who, because of how they WEREN'T raised, are now criminals just trying to make it the only way they know how.

What I find fascinating is.... Birth control is not a new thing. Humans have been trying to control birth for as long as they figured out that have sex quite often leads to a baby. It is only just now that science has finally found a way to basically perfect that control that people are making this huge stink about it (save for... the cathlics? who believe every sperm is sacred or whatever... I don't know who that is that refused birth control of ANY sort (condoms and such))

plan B is just what humans have been working towards for longer than our grandparents can remember. They have been working for it because EVERY HUMAN WANTS SEX. we all can't HAVE babies though.... there IS a population issue as I recall.

I am completely for plan B. I am for whatever it takes for people to be responsible when mistakes happen. I'd much prefer someone take a plan B pill than have a child they can't raise who grows into a spiteful adult mad at the world for the crap life they were handed.

Taking care of a child goes beyond just giving them diapers or food. Taking care of a child means giving them LOVE and ATTENTION. to teach them right from wrong. Those who take plan B recognize that they can not adequately give that. I don't CARE if you can support a child financially... if you can't support them emotionally, mentally... then you aren't the best candidate. That isn't to say you CANT EVER.... plenty have discovered they CAN... but those who recognize that inability are MUCH MORE RESPONSIBLE for taking plan B then trying to fool themselves into thinking they can raise a happy and well adjusted child from a homelife that doesn't have the attention and love it needs.

I think it is good to have on hand. Many women that have been assaulted do not want to go through a rape kit now they can just go to the pharm and get it on their own.

As for other people using it. I don't care its not my body, not my choice. What other people do to THEIR body does not effect me, its legal there fore everyone who is NOT in that body should butt the heck out. If you don't "believe" in it then don't take it. Choice it IS that friggin simple.

All the peeps that are pro-life EXCEPT for rape boggle my mind SO what makes THAT child less worthy then ALL of the other children? If you are going to be pro-life then be pro-life if you have exceptions to your pro-life stance then that makes you pro-choice.

I agree with all of the above. :yes

I'm way to lazy to go back and quote but to the chick who said it's ONLY for procreation. Um have you ever used any form of BC? If so then you just ate your own words. If not then WOW that's just sad. Sex is fun you should try it.

hmmm mental note: contact Matt and let him know that we can ONLY do it to procreate. No protected sex. If we do and the condom breaks then we're oh so bad bad people.

I'm obviously for Plan B.
For the people who keep comparing it to abortion.. Do some reading.....

Wow.... those would be some lucky, lucky kids. :yes

I agree. I'd totally sneak into the system so I could have you as foster parents :rofl

Aww you girls are so sweet! I don't know what I did to deserve it, but thanks!!! :D

I am glad it is available. I think someone should be able to go buy it in the proper controlled dose rather than downing all of the BC they have on hand.

I've used it a couple of times and am so grateful for that resource.

I didn't vote because I wish there was an other.

If you are having sex and the condom breaks....grow up. If you are raped or forced into sex, I'm undecided.

I need to read up on it before state. I think it should be authorized only by a physician in the pharmacy. Not just like candy for those who are irrisponsible.

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We had this discussion before about the girl that was constantly taking it. (not from this board) If I was more energetic I would link the thread...but...na.

I didn't vote because I wish there was an other.

If you are having sex and the condom breaks....grow up. If you are raped or forced into sex, I'm undecided.

I need to read up on it before state. I think it should be authorized only by a physician in the pharmacy. Not just like candy for those who are irrisponsible.

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We had this discussion before about the girl that was constantly taking it. (not from this board) If I was more energetic I would link the thread...but...na.

Do I need to send you some Red Bull? :lol

Do I need to send you some Red Bull? :lol

Your funny....

Nope..thanks for asking though. :)

Fort it, Used it. Nuff said.

I think it is good for a situation that protection was used but was faulty or a situation with someone that maybe forgot once and needed it.

I don't agree with the abuse of it. Meaning someone that takes it as a form a BC every time they have sex.

I have personally used it once because the protection was faulty and we didn't know till after. With that situation of my own I LOVED it!

:yes

It would have just been made worse if I had to go through a shit load of channels to get it, in spite of being of age. Though it may not appear as such to some people, I feel I was being responsible in further preventing a possible pregnancy, when our other methods were faulty. I got enough flack and odd looks from the older than God Pharmacist and Cashier... :lol but, hey, you do what you have to do, and I am just so glad it's readily available for those who need it.

I have to say, I'm against it. I work in a Pharmacy that sells it and I always get to have the 18, 19, and 20 year olds coming in and telling me why they need it. I don't really care, but if they're gonna tell me, I'm gonna listen. In my opinion, if you have the money to drop $50 on that, you probably had the money to be taking birth control. There's some brands of pills that cost you like 20 bucks without insurance, and condoms are fairly cheap too. If all fails, it probably was gonna happen one way or another.

I didn't vote because I wish there was an other.

If you are having sex and the condom breaks....grow up. If you are raped or forced into sex, I'm undecided.

I need to read up on it before state. I think it should be authorized only by a physician in the pharmacy. Not just like candy for those who are irrisponsible.

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We had this discussion before about the girl that was constantly taking it. (not from this board) If I was more energetic I would link the thread...but...na.

WTH? That was pretty rude IMO.

WTH? That was pretty rude IMO.

Yea no shit! I guess even if you are using BC and it fails then your in the wrong.

I don't know about other states but in CA you have to be of age. Or you have to have a parents consent.

nope this was in california. at a regular pharmacy.

I think it's great that it's available. I haven't used it and likely wouldn't unless I was in a really difficult situation (extreme financial problems, health problems, rape)... but for other people who would need it more than me I think it's great.

Yea no shit! I guess even if you are using BC and it fails then your in the wrong.

Yes, and even though you didn't want to be pregnant and did everything within reason to prevent it (i.e. used reliable bc), you MUST HAVE THIS BABY. YOU MUST. IT IS REQUIRED.

Do not attempt to take control of your own life. Resistance is futile.

Yes, and even though you didn't want to be pregnant and did everything within reason to prevent it (i.e. used reliable bc), you MUST HAVE THIS BABY. YOU MUST. IT IS REQUIRED.

Do not attempt to take control of your own life. Resistance is futile.

blah 9x's out of 10 the people that say that sort of crap are the same people that get pissed off at people using welfare. They care about the baby while it is in the womb but could not give two shits once it is here in the world.

blah 9x's out of 10 the people that say that sort of crap are the same people that get pissed off at people using welfare. They care about the baby while it is in the womb but could not give two shits once it is here in the world.

No kidding. "You had that baby, now you feed it!"

Too many are using as a form of birth control. You NEVER count on another person to cover it. NEVER. If you are just counting on a condom...and it breaks...guess what? There are reprocusions. I MADE sure that I used Birth control and my DH was condom up. WE MADE SURE. We didn't take sex likely.

As I said in the previous post, we have gone through this about that girl that EVERY TIME SHE HAD SEX, she did plan B. Read the whole post not just part of it.

If you are not prepared....you will have problems. You need to be mature to face the responisblity of sex. It is just not all fun and game. sometimes things happen.

I'm bowing out because this debate has happened SO MANY times...

I don't even get what there is to debate about. High doses of hormonal BC?

Debates like these make me feel like I am living back in the 50's when hormonal BC first became an option.

Now RU-486 is something to debate about........plan B though, I just don't get the big deal :thinking

I think it's a good thing. Dh and I don't ever want to have kids, so if we ever have an emergency, I will use it. It's nice to know I could get it OTC and don't have to have a prescription.

Yes, and even though you didn't want to be pregnant and did everything within reason to prevent it (i.e. used reliable bc), you MUST HAVE THIS BABY. YOU MUST. IT IS REQUIRED.

Do not attempt to take control of your own life. Resistance is futile.

:hystericlaugh

I'm fine with it.

Its not an abortion pill, its birth control.

I'm all for it. I wish there weren't those women who will use it as a form of Birth Control, but for those who won't, and would just use it if a condom breaks or something, I think it's a good thing.

It's not available in Colorado I don't think.

It's available at Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, I dunno about elsewhere in the state. :)

Ehhh... this one was hard for me to vote on. I'm not against Plan B itself, but I don't like it becoming so readily available. Pharmacists are SUPPOSED to educate people on the drugs they sell, but they rarely do, in my experience. If people HAVE to go to Planned Parenthood and get a prescription in order to get it, then at least they're being educated properly about the drug.

Of course, I say this having been to both pharmacies and Planned Parenthood and leaving the pharmacy knowing nothing about my Rx and leaving PP knowing more than I ever wanted to. Others may have had opposite experiences.

I am ok with Plan B, but I would prefer it to require an Rx.

nope this was in california. at a regular pharmacy.

Hmmm... The pharmacy that we went to asked for ID.

blah 9x's out of 10 the people that say that sort of crap are the same people that get pissed off at people using welfare. They care about the baby while it is in the womb but could not give two shits once it is here in the world.

I (L) you. Every time someone tells me about how they are against abortion. My follow up question is always well how do you feel about Welfare? How about WIC? 9 times out of 10 those same people are against those programs.

I (L) you. Every time someone tells me about how they are against abortion. My follow up question is always well how do you feel about Welfare? How about WIC? 9 times out of 10 those same people are against those programs.

I often find people against abortion are also against Gay rights.

Support them til they are born... then to hell with them... it is THEIR life THEIR problem... right?

[DakotaCowgirl;2772938]Too many are using as a form of birth control. You NEVER count on another person to cover it. NEVER. If you are just counting on a condom...and it breaks...guess what? There are reprocusions. I MADE sure that I used Birth control and my DH was condom up. WE MADE SURE. We didn't take sex likely.

Congratulations, your method of BC never failed. Some people aren't so lucky. I'm glad you're okay with damning them to a life of responsibility they don't want or need, just because everything worked out hunky dory for you.


As I said in the previous post, we have gone through this about that girl that EVERY TIME SHE HAD SEX, she did plan B. Read the whole post not just part of it.


So what?

If you are not prepared....you will have problems. You need to be mature to face the responisblity of sex. It is just not all fun and game. sometimes things happen.

Taking Plan B is very mature and responsible. And safe, and legal, and moral.

Ehhh... this one was hard for me to vote on. I'm not against Plan B itself, but I don't like it becoming so readily available. Pharmacists are SUPPOSED to educate people on the drugs they sell, but they rarely do, in my experience. If people HAVE to go to Planned Parenthood and get a prescription in order to get it, then at least they're being educated properly about the drug.

Of course, I say this having been to both pharmacies and Planned Parenthood and leaving the pharmacy knowing nothing about my Rx and leaving PP knowing more than I ever wanted to. Others may have had opposite experiences.

I am ok with Plan B, but I would prefer it to require an Rx.

Your pharmacy must suck because every pharmacy I have ever been to has educated me on the meds I get, both on paper and orally.

I don't even get what there is to debate about. High doses of hormonal BC?

Debates like these make me feel like I am living back in the 50's when hormonal BC first became an option.

Now RU-486 is something to debate about........plan B though, I just don't get the big deal :thinking

Me neither.

Too many are using as a form of birth control. You NEVER count on another person to cover it. NEVER. If you are just counting on a condom...and it breaks...guess what? There are reprocusions. I MADE sure that I used Birth control and my DH was condom up. WE MADE SURE. We didn't take sex likely.


Neither did my friends and they managed to have twins using condoms AND an IUD. She has said would have taken Plan B if it had been available to her at the time. (Yes, she loves her little creepy children of the corn that like to stand next to each other and follow people around.)

Your pharmacy must suck because every pharmacy I have ever been to has educated me on the meds I get, both on paper and orally.

For the most part, yes, every pharmacy I've been to has sucked. And that sucks. :)

I (L) you. Every time someone tells me about how they are against abortion. My follow up question is always well how do you feel about Welfare? How about WIC? 9 times out of 10 those same people are against those programs.

I often find people against abortion are also against Gay rights.

Support them til they are born... then to hell with them... it is THEIR life THEIR problem... right?

I have to say that I am against abortion...Plan B(now that I know what it is) I am only against people abusing it, as for Welfare and WIC again, against people abusing it, but for people who need it, I'd offer as much help as I could towards them and support the use of WIC and welfare...as long as they dont abuse it, umm, gay rights..I have no problem whatsoever with people who are gay. I actually support them. :yes

not saying anything against you two, just wanted to clear up where I stand...(L)

Your pharmacy must suck because every pharmacy I have ever been to has educated me on the meds I get, both on paper and orally.

yep the only time I have not had my meds explained to me have been the very few times I have used the base pharm.

i'm for it. i've used it twice in college after mistakes. but back then you had to go to a clinic to get it and answer questions about why you needed it, etc.

i can't see how people would abuse it, though. what happens after you take it is kind of gross (like a weird version of a period), and it screws up your whole cycle for a while. it made me ridiculously nauseous as well. it's definitely NOT something i'd want to take over and over again.

I'm honestly not trying to sound like a bitch....

But why are you so opposed to people "abusing" it? I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with overusing it.... but why does it bother you what other people do to their own bodies? If they wanna go pay $50 every time they're "irresponsible" to take a Plan B pill that's gonna give them cramps from hell.... what does it matter to us?

:dunno

Again, not trying to sound snotty.... just trying to better understand your perspective.


OMG I was just thinking the same thing....what is the big deal....Its not like you are already pregnant and are disposing of the baby, it is just keeping from the egg attaching or what ever, that why it has to be taken with in 72 hours so its before the pregancy starts

And so what if some one uses it more than you think it should...(its not meant to be regular BC) but it is Birth Control

And I am so sick of people saying just dont have sex...like no one has ever gotten really frickin horny with their man and had sex then afterwards wished they would have used more protection or what ever....its called those damn hormones makeing you make decisions you wouldnt normally make. Not thats its smart...but damn it we are humans and are not perfect.

I am against Plan- B

For welfare and WIC

For gay rights and gay marriages

But that is just me:wink

The whole "I don't want anyone abusing it" iis the same as "It shouldn't be used as a form of birth control," which is the same as "Abortion is wrongwrongWRONG.... except in cases of rape or incest."

It allows people to look like they're flexible, when in reality they still want to have control over your life choices.

Plan B, oral contraceptives, condoms, rhythym method, RU-486..... theyre ALL methods of birth control. Deal. And, if you believe life begins at conception, is a baby conceived in rape or incest somehow a less worthy life than one concieved otherwise? That makes no sense to me.

You're either FOR it, or you're against it.

Personally, I am FOR people having the right to make their own choices about their own bodies.

And, if you believe life begins at conception, is a baby conceived in rape or incest somehow a less worthy life than one concieved otherwise? That makes no sense to me.




No. All life is equal

No. All life is equal

See, I have less of a problem with someone who says "I believe abortion is wrong in all cases," than i do with someone who will make exceptions. If you believe it's wrong, that's your belief, that's cool.

But to say "I believe _____ is wrong" and then come up with conditions on your beliefs is, to me, incongruent.

The whole "I don't want anyone abusing it" iis the same as "It shouldn't be used as a form of birth control," which is the same as "Abortion is wrongwrongWRONG.... except in cases of rape or incest."

It allows people to look like they're flexible, when in reality they still want to have control over your life choices.

Plan B, oral contraceptives, condoms, rhythym method, RU-486..... theyre ALL methods of birth control. Deal. And, if you believe life begins at conception, is a baby conceived in rape or incest somehow a less worthy life than one concieved otherwise? That makes no sense to me.

You're either FOR it, or you're against it.

Personally, I am FOR people having the right to make their own choices about their own bodies.

Exactly.

I am against abortion in all sense of the word...but for me...whatever someone else does in their life is for them. However if I do have an opinion about anything being "wrong in my eyes" I have the right to voice it, just as anyone else has the right to voice their opinion about why they think I am wrong...

Hmmm... The pharmacy that we went to asked for ID.

well plan b has been available OTC in california since 2006 i believe if you were 18 and over. anything below that you need a prescription. but i think all the pharmacist does is talk to you, asks a couple questions and explains plan b and it's usage.

wow u ladies are pretty ruthless..its a debate not a slaughtering house! Im scared to state my opinion!

Oh the only reason I wouldn't want people abusing it is that it's a super shot dose of hormones and can mess up your body if OVERused, kwim? But hey, I am not about to try to legislate someone's use of it.

wow u ladies are pretty ruthless..its a debate not a slaughtering house! Im scared to state my opinion!

What? This is one of THE most civil debates I've seen around here, especially considering the topic :puzz