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pokeyy
06-26-2006, 01:21 PM
Men with older brothers more likely to be gay By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 19 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Having several older brothers increases the likelihood of a man being gay, a finding researchers say adds weight to the idea that there is a biological basis for sexual orientation.

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"It's likely to be a prenatal effect," said Anthony F. Bogaert of Brock University in St. Catharines, Canada, "This and other studies suggest that there is probably a biological basis for" homosexuality.

S. Marc Breedlove of Michigan State University said the finding "absolutely" confirms a physical basis.

"Anybody's first guess would have been that the older brothers were having an effect socially, but this data doesn't support that," Breedlove said in a telephone interview.

The only link between the brothers is the mother and so the effect has to be through the mother, especially since stepbrothers didn't have the effect, said Breedlove, who was not part of the research.

Bogaert studied four groups of Canadian men, a total of 944 people, analyzing the number of brothers and sisters each had, whether or not they lived with those siblings and whether the siblings were related by blood or adopted.

He reports in a paper appearing in Tuesday's issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that having several biological older brothers increased the chance of a man being gay.

It's an effect that can be detected with one older brother and becomes stronger with three or four or more, Bogaert said in a telephone interview.

But, he added, this needs to be looked at in context of the overall rate of homosexuality in men, which he suggested is about 3 percent. With several older brothers the rate may increase from 3 percent to 5 percent, he said, but that still means 95 percent of men with several older brothers are heterosexual.

The effect of birth order on male homosexuality has been reported previously but Bogaert's work is the first designed to rule out social or environmental effects.

Bogaert said he concluded the effect was biological by comparing men with biological brothers to those with brothers to whom they were not biologically related.

The increase in the likelihood of being gay was seen only in those whose brothers had the same mothers, whether they were raised together or not, he said.

Men raised with several older step- or adopted brothers do not have an increased chance of being gay.

"So what that means is that the environment a person is raised in really makes not much difference," he said.

What makes a difference, he said, is having older brothers who shared the same womb and gestational experience, suggesting the difference is because of "some sort of prenatal factor."

One possibility, he suggests, is a maternal immune response to succeeding male fetuses. The mother may react to a male fetus as foreign but not to a female fetus because the mother is also female.

It might be like the maternal immune response that can occur when a mother has Rh-negative blood but her fetus has Rh-positive blood. Without treatment, the mother can develop antibodies that may attack the fetus during future pregnancies.

Whether that's what is happening remains to be seen, but it is a provocative hypothesis, said a commentary by Breedlove, David A. Puts and Cynthia L. Jordan, all of Michigan State.

The research was funded by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada.

mary79
06-26-2006, 02:20 PM
Hmmm, so what about girls that are gay ? This is a very interesting artical though.

=Mrs.AiNokeA=
06-26-2006, 02:54 PM
I'm not sure I believe that I personally think that they just have a chemical imbalance in their brain that makes them think like that but that's just me. Also what about boys with lots of older sisters wouldnt that make them think that girls are like nothing cuz they have seen everything already I dont know. :dunno It just sounds weird to me. I know a few gay guys and they dont have a bunch of older brothers but I dont know about the rest of them hehe. :D

NavyChiefs_Wife
06-26-2006, 03:05 PM
This is a very interesting artical.

Joy
06-26-2006, 03:41 PM
My older brother is gay and he has 2 older brothers. So it fits for him. I do think he has been gay since we we're kids. I "knew" he was different when I was 8 and asked him why he like boys instead of girls. :dunno

Amanda Beth
06-26-2006, 07:38 PM
Hrm that is a very interesting article. My best friend is gay and he has 1 older brother, so it fits for him, but my boss is gay and he doesn't have any older brothers, so ya never know lol.

wolfspawprint
06-26-2006, 08:17 PM
What about women though? And what about my own family and the 5 brothers that my father was the second youngest of? By that theory, at least one of them should be gay, and judging by the number of cousins I have, that is most certianly not true. No one on my dad's side of the family is gay and several of those households have more than two or more biological brothers. I think this is a logic fallacy. I don't know what causes it, but I highly doubt it has to do with having older brothers.

Crystal520
06-26-2006, 08:25 PM
Hmmmm.....I dunno about this one