capital punishment is Cruel or do you think that if you are on death row you have done something to deserve it?

I was watching today on American Justice that a man in the 1980's was on death row for killing and raping a 3 year old girl. He was put into the Mississippi gas chamber and it took him well over 8 minutes to die. It is supposed to take only 2 minutes before a person goes into cardiac arrest and dies. His lawyers then claimed that he died from cruel and unusual punishment. The same with the American a few years back that was caned in Singapore for vandializing there city people believe that that was cruel and unusual punishment.


What do you think?

I think they are there and deserve what they get.

I am a firm believer in Eye for an Eye.

I believe that too. I think that the boy in Singapore should have gotten that too. When in Rome you do as the Romans. I would expect if someone from another country committed a crime in America that they would be punished by our rules. I believe that if someone is on death row they deserve what they get. Most of the time you don't get death row for writing bad checks ya know.

Is it cruel, yes it can be. Does that make a difference to me, no. The system can be flawed as are most things with the judicial system.

I am against capital punishment

I am a firm believer in Eye for an Eye.

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Another question for this... If you are for capital punishment, do you believe in redemption? Like the Tookie Williams (?) case...

I think that if you are on death row then you deserve to be there. I'm glad that it takes them some time for that man to die in the gas chamber, let him suffer for what he did to that little girl.

I'm not sure that I believe in capital punishment - I'm don't think that two wrongs make a right. That said, I don't think that a criminal should be spared a punishment when entering a country that practices capital punishment, just because he/she comes from a country that does not. They are aware of the laws and punishments they carry - why should they be exempt?

I'm not against it. I'm not ALL for it though. I think there are cases where the person should be put on death row and others where a person shouldn't. I don't think we should oblige a person wanting the legal system to kill him/her (you know like death by cop). But a person that committs crimes like Domer (not sure if I spelled that right) should be put do to death. I don't think there is any helping someone like that and we as tax payers shouldn't have to pay to keep him/her alive. Plus, keeping him/her alive doesn't seem very safe to me either. Oh, and as far as that guy that got caned; he went to another country and broke their laws. It may not be the punishment that is handed out in the US but it isn't the US. It is expected when people come to the US that they obey the laws here so the same applies when someone here goes to another country. I see it as if he didn't want the consequences then he should have obeyed the laws. Just my opinion.

I personally think capital punishment is the 'easy way out'. I have heard of several cases where the guilty party has asked for, and received, the death penalty because they just 'cannot live with themselves'.....50 years of solitary confinement would be a harsher sentence if you ask me.

I just read the part about when the guy was caned in Singapore, I think he deserved it. We need to be more like other countries with our punishment. Instead of throwing people in jail for petty shit cane them or something. I think if we punished people the way other countries punish people them our crime rate would go down.

I agree. I'm also a beilver in Eye for an Eyes. It's pathetic that these people both men and woman sit in a jail with tv, crafts, decent food and things to do. How is that paying for your crime? Jail is a joke. It's not what it used to be. I agree with Brandy, if we started punishing people for their crimes like other countries people would shape up. I feel no pity for the man that raped and killed that 3 yr old. I wish he would of sufferd longer in that gas chamber that poor girl suffered way longer then 8 mins I"m sure. They should of let guys rape and kill him sick bastard. I have no pity. This was MY opinion please no bashing)

Another question for this... If you are for capital punishment, do you believe in redemption? Like the Tookie Williams (?) case...


I have a hard time with this. Yes and No. But in the end I do believe that they can redem themselves in God's eyes. But that no one will trully know but the man and GOD whether or not he is truly sorry for his actions

I think it's cruel, but they might deserve every bit of it.

I personally think capital punishment is the 'easy way out'. I have heard of several cases where the guilty party has asked for, and received, the death penalty because they just 'cannot live with themselves'.....50 years of solitary confinement would be a harsher sentence if you ask me.

True. :agree with you also.

I definitely believe in capital punishment. If you are on death row, you are there for a very good reason. If you take someone else's life in such a manner, you deserve to die. IMO, they deserve to rot in prison until their day comes, and they deserve to have every part of their death be cruel and painful. I have NO sympathy for criminals like that.

I love your opinion Jess. I feel the same way you do about it. I hope that guy who kidnapped, raped, and buried my cousin alive gets the death penalty. I hope that he gets raped and beat every day that he's in jail and I hope to god he suffers if he gets put to death.

I also have a hard time knowing my tax dollars are paying for these people to sit in their cells, with tvs, computer time, walkmans, ipods, etc. They still have the simple luxuries of life while they sit there and their victims families are left to pick up the peices and move on without their loved ones

i think that if a jury of your peers or a judge deems that what you did was wrong then you should be sentenced to death. i think for something things such as serial killers and serial rapists or people who torture kids and that sort of thing the lethal injection is to humane. i'm an advocate of in certain instances, like the ones listed above, they use the electric chair or a gas chamber. there is no reason that someone who tortured and maimed and killed so many innocent people should be able to die by a shot.

not to stir up trouble but alot of ya'll are saying that you would rather not see your tax dollars going to see someone sitting in prison with tvs, and good amenities, but it is actually more expensive to put someone on death row because of all the appeals. i do think that some of the people on death row may be innocent but at the time DNA got f*cked up (like what happened a few years ago in houston) or they had bad testimony but they couldn't prove it. but those that we know did it (i.e. ted bundy, jeffery dahmer, and many other serial killers) definitely deserve it.

not to stir up trouble but alot of ya'll are saying that you would rather not see your tax dollars going to see someone sitting in prison with tvs, and good amenities, but it is actually more expensive to put someone on death row because of all the appeals. i do think that some of the people on death row may be innocent but at the time DNA got f*cked up (like what happened a few years ago in houston) or they had bad testimony but they couldn't prove it. but those that we know did it (i.e. ted bundy, jeffery dahmer, and many other serial killers) definitely deserve it.

It wasn't ALOT of people who said it. it was ME. And I don't believe in appeals past the 2nd try IF THAT.

I totally agree with you wileys cherrys. They should only be allowed to appeal twice and after that just accept their punishment.

I believe in it.

sorry for saying alot. i agree with the appeals thing two, you should only get 2.

not to stir up trouble but alot of ya'll are saying that you would rather not see your tax dollars going to see someone sitting in prison with tvs, and good amenities, but it is actually more expensive to put someone on death row because of all the appeals. i do think that some of the people on death row may be innocent but at the time DNA got f*cked up (like what happened a few years ago in houston) or they had bad testimony but they couldn't prove it. but those that we know did it (i.e. ted bundy, jeffery dahmer, and many other serial killers) definitely deserve it.

I think if a person is going to be on death row then they should be able to have 1 maybe 2 appeals. If they are still left on death row after that then they need to be given a date of when they go to the chair, gas chamber, what ever it may be for them and be done with it. It pisses me off that people are left on death row for years and years on end to just try appeal after appeal.

Comming from a state that puts more people to death each year I firmly believe in it! If you killed someone then guess what you ARE gonna die!!! I guess it is just the Texan in me!

Ok before reading the replyies. When it comes to someone who has killed someone I do not feel sorry for them if it took 8 minutes instead of 2 minutes. What about the horrible way the person they killed died. Most likely it was much longer than 8 minutes especially if they were raped as well.:mad :mad I feel the reason we have so much crime now is because jail seems like a cheap place to stay. Some jails/prisons have more ammenities then apts do. That is just wrong. I also do not discriminate between white collar and blue collar crimes. If you need to be in prison or jail you need to be breaking rocks and other pitily mundane crap that people hate as a reminder why you never want to go back. I do not believe in Death row if you are going to stay in prison the rest of your life and you are guilty then let's get it over and make room for the idiots getting away with stealing because it is not considered such a major crime. JMO's

i screwed up on this one....it was supposed to agree with i love my marine's comment

Comming from a state that puts more people to death each year I firmly believe in it! If you killed someone then guess what you ARE gonna die!!! I guess it is just the Texan in me!

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I a PRO Death Penalty.

Why should my tax dollars pay for someone to sit on Death Row and watch HBO for years.

Our boys in Iraq....or on a sub don't have it that easy.....so the criminal should not either.

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If while serving their time they actually had it HARD....I would have a more relaxed stance on the death penalty.....but NO the ACLU must stick their noses in it and make sure that the CRIMINAL is treated with dignity and respect.

How many of the people they killed....or other horrible things were treated with respect.........the answer NONE....because people you respect are not treated that way.

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In addition to the Death Penalty I am all for the CHAIN GANG......I just don't believe many of the people in prison are reformed and changed as much as they claim they are.

The other thing I can't stand is certain sickos....Child Molesters are segragated from the rest of the population.....to me they should be with everyone else....and let whatever happens happen.

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I can't tell you how many times I get discusted with hearing that they changed....and found JESUS.


Perfect example the Tookie Williams case....founder of the CRIPS....murderer....he was executed earlier this year....all of his supporters kept mentioning how he was changed because he wrote Children's books etc. YEAH WHATEVER....the people you murdered are still dead and hod no second chance at life....

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So yup in a nut shell....


ALL FOR THE DEATH PENALTY

eye for an eye. I also think that lethal injection is too humane for some of the things these criminals have done. If someone hurt my children, family, friends, etc....I sure as heck don't want that monster to just get a shot and fall asleep! I think they should suffer the way they made their victim(s) suffer.

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I also have a hard time knowing my tax dollars are paying for these people to sit in their cells, with tvs, computer time, walkmans, ipods, etc. They still have the simple luxuries of life while they sit there and their victims families are left to pick up the peices and move on without their loved ones


Yeah That!!!!

I don't suppose the man gave a crap that what he did to the 3 year old was cruel and unusual. Honestly I think in this country we are too lenient with criminals, they get off easy too often. I have no mercy for rapists, murderers, etc. They can't obey laws or even accepted moral standards and have no regards for the rights of others.

Maybe the crime rate would go down if more people were actually put to death for murdering people and other harsher punishments were enforced for crimes.

I think capital punishment is too humane for some of the crimes commited.

I think we should speed up the process. I mean, once you're convicted and sentenced that's it. No waiting for years in prison eating up my tax dollars. Nope, right to the ol' chamber, or needle, or chair, or whatever.

I believe in the death penalty. I think it should be SWIFT. No need for millions of appeals.

I am completely for the death penalty. Along with most of you, I agree that if you murder someone, you deserve to die as well. No questions asked. I have no sympathy for the people on death row. I dont care if it takes 2 minutes or 20 minutes for them to die... as long as they do. I know, I sound harsh. But this is something that hits home for me... and I have a very strong opinion on.

As for jail... its ridiculous. You cant tell me that by sitting in a jail cell, using a computer and sometimes, GETTING A COLLEGE EDUCATION-- that those criminals are even the slightest bit concerned by what they did or when they're getting out. Some of them would RATHER be there... it's better off than the life they led on the outside. I agree with "Diamond," I'm all for the Chain Gang... those criminals suffer.

I agree with the death penalty.

Ok so i think that the westernised prison system- is more accurate. They sentence people who are BAD people- to death. Ones who deserve it.

As for the judicial system over in indonesia and places like that- are absolutely fucked up. An aussie got hung about 4 months ago because he was caught with some cocaine. Ok fair enough- a drug user.. he should be charged because it's illegal.. but should he die because of this? NO! The punishment just does not fit the crime! Indonesia & Malyasia are WAY too harsh.

Now if there was a serial killer, serial rapist, terrorist, murderer etc. up for the death penalty- then ok- so be it.. that's fair enough. He deserves what he gets then.

And as for Saddam Hussein- He shouldn't be sentenced to death. Indeed he deserves it- but i don't think the American government should give him the satisfaction of being made a martyr- which is the deemed way to get into his little make believe heaven. Screw that- feed him bread and water for the rest of his life and let him bunk with a very horny male sexual offender named Bob.

I support the death penalty.

I support the death penalty.

Me too.

The only thing that saddens me is when they started reopening and reinvestigating all of those older cases (with DNA) and found out that they murdered some people who really didn't commit the crimes. It's 2am and I can't think of what it's called.

I have no problem at all with it as long as they can prove 99.999999% that they committed the crime.

And as for Saddam Hussein- He shouldn't be sentenced to death. Indeed he deserves it- but i don't think the American government should give him the satisfaction of being made a martyr- which is the deemed way to get into his little make believe heaven. Screw that- feed him bread and water for the rest of his life and let him bunk with a very horny male sexual offender named Bob.


:lmao :lmao I love it!! I agree!! Dont give him the satisfaction of dying... make him suffer. He deserves it...

I'm all for Capital punishment! Being from TX, I'm used to hearing about this or that murderer being put to death on the news... I don't think that they should be allowed to sit for 20 to 30 years just because the state's not ready to execute them. I think that once their appeals have run out, so has their clock.. JMO..

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I am pro death penalty, however, they'd better be damn sure that the person is guilty before they sentence them to death. Either they have to admit to the crime or there be non-disputable DNA evidence or something.

I agree that the appeal process should be expedited. They have a right to an appeal or two, but after that it should be final.

BUT...right now it costs so much to put someone to death it's ridiculous. I'm not sure what the finances are, but I wish they would bring the expenses down.

I do believe in redemption. I think Tookie should have been given the right to life in prison. He seemed to be an exception to the norm.