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Nikki_D
11-19-2006, 09:28 PM
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11/19/2006 20:00:44 EST /AP Photo
Key Democrat Wants to Reinstate Draft
By JOHN HEILPRIN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 under a bill the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee says he will introduce next year.
Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., said Sunday he sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.

Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, has said the all-volunteer military disproportionately puts the burden of war on minorities and lower-income families.

Rangel said he will propose a measure early next year. While he said he is serious about the proposal, there is little evident support among the public or lawmakers for it.

In 2003, Rangel proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. It was defeated 402-2 the following year. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42; it went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.

Democrats will control the House and Senate come January because of their victories in the Nov. 7 election.

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," said Rangel, who also proposed a draft in January 2003, before the U.S. invasion of Iraq. "I think to do so is hypocritical."

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

"I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

Rangel, the next chairman of the House tax-writing committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 - now about 16 million - from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.

Jen
11-19-2006, 09:35 PM
they are nuts!

Veronica
11-19-2006, 09:39 PM
there was a thread about this a few weeks ago...it was pretty much anonymous that nobody wanted someone backing up their SO who didnt CHOSE to be there...I dont think a draft bill would pass...

brandewijn
11-19-2006, 09:41 PM
It won't pass but if it does, there will be a lot of border jumpers and if they include moms in that (which they won't) I would be a damn proud border jumper myself.

I don't even like that they talk about such nonsense. :imwaiting

MontanaSweetie
11-20-2006, 12:40 AM
:screwy No way in f'in hell!

Jill
11-20-2006, 12:45 AM
They have only been in the house for what a week and already stirring up shit!!!:mad

Cher
11-20-2006, 12:51 AM
:rolleyes

Hatetank
11-20-2006, 01:00 AM
Democrats said this? Wow, and I thought they were more interested in local policies with a general disregard for the military. Something like this may make me re-evaluate my stance on them... interesting!

*Crystal*
11-20-2006, 01:05 AM
Well no shit theres not enough people in the military, you are kicking them out left and right!! I personally do not think the draft will happen!

Jill
11-20-2006, 01:08 AM
Well no shit theres not enough people in the military, you are kicking them out left and right!!

that was what i was thinking!!

brandewijn
11-20-2006, 01:11 AM
Well no shit theres not enough people in the military, you are kicking them out left and right!! I personally do not think the draft will happen!

I know! Everything is "overmanned" so they are kicking people out for any reason they can find yet they don't have enough??? I wish they would make up their mind on where the numbers stand.

Nikki_D
11-20-2006, 11:04 AM
I have to agree with everyone. I really don't think the draft will go back into effect. They tried this once before and it was beaten.
Plus, I really don't want someone standing next to anyone who choose to be there.