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Kaymara
11-21-2006, 11:53 AM
Selective Service: Ready for a draft
POSTED: 10:04 p.m. EST, November 20, 2006
By Thom Patterson
CNN
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(CNN) -- Although Congress is unlikely to follow calls from a top Democrat to bring back the military draft, the United States does have a plan, if necessary, aimed at inducting millions of young men for service.

The Selective Service System, an agency independent of the Defense Department, says it's ready to respond quickly to any crisis that would threaten to overwhelm the current all-volunteer military.

"We're the fire department," said spokesman Pat Schuback at the service headquarters in Arlington, Virginia.

"We're prepared to do the mission with whatever time period we're asked to do it in. Our current plan is 193 days and that was based on manpower analysis."

With an active list of more than 15 million names, Schuback said an estimated 93 percent of all men in the United States between 18 and 26 have registered for the Selective Service, as required by law.

Chris Baker, 20, of Decatur, Georgia, said he wouldn't support a draft under any circumstances.

"I don't believe it's right to send people who don't really want to go fight for the country," Baker said. "I probably wouldn't go, but I know that'd I have to go to jail for that. That's probably what I would do -- sit in jail."

But 25-year-old Donnie Deerman of West Blocton, Alabama, said he would feel obligated to participate in a military draft.

"I'd have to do it. My dad did two tours of duty for Vietnam and for this country," Deerman said. "I wouldn't want to leave my kids behind, but I wouldn't argue about it."

While U.S. commanders insist sending more U.S. troops is not the answer in Iraq, they concede they really couldn't maintain a much bigger force than the 150,000 deployed there now because the U.S. military is just too small.

Rep. Charles Rangel of New York, the Democrat who likely will head the powerful House Ways and Means Committee in the next congressional session, said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" he plans to propose a new military draft next year.

But virtually no one expects the bill to have any chance of passage, and incoming Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday the Democratic Party's House leadership would not support Rangel's proposal. (Full story)

CNN senior political analyst Bill Schneider said every poll he's seen in the past year or two indicates Americans young and old don't want to return to the draft.

"And those who are calling for a draft, of course, know that it's unpopular," Schneider said. "They believe it may be the fastest way to end the war, and to keep the United States out of future wars."

Military experts say it's highly doubtful a military draft would ever again be green-lighted because the volunteer system works.

They also say any major attack against the United States would certainly result in a surge of additional volunteers that would make a draft unnecessary.

They point to the volunteer response following the December 7, 1941, Japanese attack on the military complex at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, as an example, along with the surge in volunteers after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Retired Gen. James "Spider" Marks, a decorated 33-year veteran and CNN military analyst, doesn't see any likely scenario that would require the Pentagon to ask for a draft.

But, he said, "it's never a discussion topic that's off the table for long-term planning."

Instead of a draft, Marks said, the armed forces should be more aggressive about recruiting volunteers, "to increase the top line of the military."

If needed, the U.S. Selective Service System says it's ready to pull the trigger on a new draft. According to the Selective Service, here's how a draft would happen:

A crisis occurs that overwhelms the current all-volunteer military, forcing Congress and the president to authorize a draft system.

Selective Service starts a lottery, based on birth dates, beginning with men age 20.

Those who are assigned low lottery numbers are "ordered to report for a physical, mental, and moral evaluation at a Military Entrance Processing Station to determine whether they are fit for military service," according to the Selective Service's Web site.

They have 10 days to claim "exemption, postponement, or deferment," that would excuse them from service.

Compared to the Vietnam War era, any future draft would allow "fewer reasons to excuse a man from service," according to the Selective Service.

Some of the rule changes include shorter postponements due to student deferments. Many draft eligible men during the Vietnam era avoided military service by attending college.

The previous active draft was established in 1940 before World War II and suspended after it ended. The draft was resumed in 1948 and continued until 1973, when the military converted to an all-volunteer force.

The requirement that all men between 18 and 26 register with the draft was suspended in 1975 and reinstated five years later in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

CNN's Kristi Keck, Jamie McIntyre and Bill Schneider contributed to this report

leftover
11-21-2006, 11:59 AM
Oh... That man is so full of himself... Here's my letter to today's open forum in our local newspaper.. Should be printed tomorrow.. I had to cut it down to 300 words..

Rep. Rangel introduced the military draft legislation to make a political point against the war, not because he thinks his bills have any chance of passing. He's full of it when he introduced the legislation.

According to the Selective Service, there are 11 million men registered ages 18 to 26. However, the bills that (goofy) man wrote applied to females as well, so let's double it to 22 million..

Assume that 22 million "draftees" are serving in the grade of E-1 (the very lowest enlisted grade). An E-1 in today's military starts off at $1278.50 per month.

That comes to a payroll of 28 BILLION dollars per month, just in the basic pay. It's a yearly payroll of 337 BILLION dollars.

We also have to feed these troops. Currently, it's $200 per month to feed a Joe. So, we'll have to add 52.8 BILLION dollars to our military budget.

Where are these 22 million troops going to live? Well, we certainly can't house them in the Louisiana Superdome.. Military personnel receive a housing allowance that, for an E-1 averages about $800 per month. That's a housing budget of 211 BILLION dollars per year..

Add the costs for uniforms, equipment, training, dental, relocation expenses, etc.

We can barely afford our current force-levels of 1.5 million active duty members. Our country doesn't need a draft, nor could we afford bringing even a small percentage of our population on active duty.

Rep. Rengel is playing games with the media. But even worse then that? Democratic politicians are playing on the fears of their constituents as parents. I hope you don't buy into these scare tactics, there's nothing to worry about.

leftover
11-21-2006, 12:02 PM
And besides, can we draft someone, then give them a month of training and stick them in a tank???? I don't think so.. Our military is so high tech now, and the training is so extensive, there's no way a person off the street could even be infantry (not saying infantry is dumb, my SO is inf)..

The days of teaching someone to shoot a rifle and throw a grenade, then sending them to the front lines are OVER.

SezzySue
11-21-2006, 12:03 PM
Hmm, I am a little torn over this.
I still think women should be included in the draft, it is only fair. However if women are not able to do front line so that would limit the help they can actually provice.

ALSO Why are they kicking out so many of the Air Force then talking about the draft again? They should be offering incentives to cross branches.

Or what if we combined branches, that has been in my head for a long time now.

:dunno still up in the air about it all.

leftover
11-21-2006, 12:08 PM
ALSO Why are they kicking out so many of the Air Force then talking about the draft again?


EXACTLY!!!! Recruiters are turning people away for having a GED now.. They turn people away for criminal records, and asthma. They will lower their standards looooong before they'd ever draft anyone..

Jill
11-21-2006, 12:09 PM
If men have families, are they still require to go? What about me? or my sisters? I think it is a bunch of crap BUT it is put a lot of people in their place. Everyone that talked trash about people going over there. At least it was free-will and now those who oppose will be going also. Does that make sense>

Cdawn45
11-21-2006, 01:08 PM
Honestly I don't think I would want someone that DIDN'T want to be there watching my back. That is when accidents happen. ..... I know 3 people in the past month get the boot from the navy... WHY !??!?! b/c of a tatoo...... now thats CRAZY! lol they should keep those in that WANT to be in instead of giving them the boot over soemthing stupid like a tatoo lol. imo!

Hatetank
11-22-2006, 12:29 AM
Guess it doesn't matter if you study hard or not.. Nice foresight, Mr. Kerry.

leftover
11-22-2006, 03:51 PM
Guess it doesn't matter if you study hard or not.. Nice foresight, Mr. Kerry.


I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, right???:suspect
Anyone who got drafted could just throw the ASVAB if they didn't want to join..

I'm trying to imagine exactly what the training would be like for these "draftees". The days of teaching someone some shooting skills and the proper way to throw a hand grenade are LOOOOOONG OVER!!!

Even our infantry is super high tech nowadays. In today's technical age, there is no way that we could properly train any slob off the street to, for example, drive an Abrahms in a month.

This is such an unrealistic proposition, it has so many holes in it, it would never work..

Kaymara
11-22-2006, 04:51 PM
I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, right???:suspect
Anyone who got drafted could just throw the ASVAB if they didn't want to join..

I'm trying to imagine exactly what the training would be like for these "draftees". The days of teaching someone some shooting skills and the proper way to throw a hand grenade are LOOOOOONG OVER!!!

Even our infantry is super high tech nowadays. In today's technical age, there is no way that we could properly train any slob off the street to, for example, drive an Abrahms in a month.

This is such an unrealistic proposition, it has so many holes in it, it would never work..

Heh he's referring to John Kerry's little comment a few weeks back about you better study hard or end up in Iraq. He was being silly ;)

Mao
11-22-2006, 04:54 PM
I can't see it happening anytime soon...

JudyB
11-23-2006, 12:39 AM
You would think that they would put much more thought into why the need to stop or cut enlistments in certain branches and also why they feel the need to downize what we already have.......hmmmmm, wonder where the brains of his operation is????

MelissaMc424
11-23-2006, 08:42 AM
You would think that they would put much more thought into why the need to stop or cut enlistments in certain branches and also why they feel the need to downize what we already have.......hmmmmm, wonder where the brains of his operation is????

You know the military though, nothing they do makes sense... :nutts