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leftover
12-11-2006, 12:39 AM
Has anyone ever done this? Would you?

I was reading a blog, and this GF said that she sends Jack Daniels to her BF in Iraq.. ("I just don't put it on the customs forms--hee hee, lol")

Personally? I hope like hell that the guy who gets that booze isn't anywhere near my SO.. :mad :rant

And I hope he gets caught with it.. And I hope he gets an article 15. And a demotion. Isn't that why it's called "General order NUMBER ONE"????

Are people really that dumb to think that it's okay to have a guy drinking whiskey in a war zone? I mean, what if he shot himself or someone else accidently?

Regardless if his duty day was done, he still has to carry his loaded weapon with him even if he has to take a piss....

Armylove
12-11-2006, 12:40 AM
DF has said something about sending it to him when he is deployed, but I wont.

He said a lot of people put it in scope bottles and it gets to them just fine.

Personally, Im not sending it to anyone. lol

Ellen
12-11-2006, 12:43 AM
It's against the law to mail alcoholic beverages.

Armylove
12-11-2006, 12:47 AM
I dont know why anyone would want to risk that.

Kara
12-11-2006, 12:56 AM
:no I definetly would never do that, and I know DF would never even think of asking me. I know of some people that did drink while over there, which I think is absolutely scary and worries me, but to each their own.

MRussell
12-11-2006, 04:36 AM
I would never send it. My cousin was deployed for his 21st Birthday and no one even thought it would be funny to send it. Although I do hear stories about troops being drunk down range.

*Gerbik'sGal*
12-11-2006, 07:58 AM
there's always someone on base who has it...so why risk sending it?

sgmwife1
12-11-2006, 08:02 AM
It is a complete violation to send that type of item. Not only does it cause grief for the recipient, it will also cause the unit problems. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch.

USMC ISSUED
12-11-2006, 08:26 AM
Man they should have tip lines for this crap

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 09:46 AM
I sent it to my husband while he was in Iraq. I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.

Laurie119
12-11-2006, 10:09 AM
I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.

OK, I stayed away from this post but I just can't any more. These actions, and style of thinking is going to get more than one person killed. They're in fucking Iraq, WHEN ARE THEY NOT "DURING WAR TIME??????" And drinking when they know they can sleep it off? That kind of thinking is moronic because I can't count the number of times things were calm during the day, and my hubby got woken up by mortars and had to go take action. Also, even after 8 hours of sleep (which is not achievable over there) tests have shown that people still show alcohol in their system.

Also, if they need liquor for a release, they have issues.

Wow, I hope my husband wasn't over there when your husband was, and if he was, I hope they weren't within a hundred miles of each other, because what you did, and what your husband did was totally irresponsible and self serving.

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 10:11 AM
I sent it to my husband while he was in Iraq. I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.



Needed a release, that is BS... Try working out that is a bigger release...

Nakule
12-11-2006, 10:24 AM
Has anyone ever done this? Would you?

I was reading a blog, and this GF said that she sends Jack Daniels to her BF in Iraq.. ("I just don't put it on the customs forms--hee hee, lol")

Personally? I hope like hell that the guy who gets that booze isn't anywhere near my SO.. :mad :rant

And I hope he gets caught with it.. And I hope he gets an article 15. And a demotion. Isn't that why it's called "General order NUMBER ONE"????

Are people really that dumb to think that it's okay to have a guy drinking whiskey in a war zone? I mean, what if he shot himself or someone else accidently?

Regardless if his duty day was done, he still has to carry his loaded weapon with him even if he has to take a piss....

I agree with you 100% I think it's insanely stupid to do that! I have a friend deployed to Iraq right now, and if she asked me I would so rip her one when she comes back! :P

sgmwife1
12-11-2006, 10:34 AM
I sent it to my husband while he was in Iraq. I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.

I dont think your a bad person. And it really has nothing to do with a soldier "drinking" it is more about the fact that it is illegal to send it.

MelissaMc424
12-11-2006, 10:35 AM
It's against the law to mail alcoholic beverages.

Not to mention tobacco products!

Kara
12-11-2006, 10:39 AM
I sent it to my husband while he was in Iraq. I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.

I don't think your a bad person at all! I think I'd need a drink too if I were over there! I'm happy he didnt get caught or hurt himself/someone else :hugs I suppose one never knows if they'd send it or not until they are in that position.

defying_gravity
12-11-2006, 10:41 AM
my DB will still be deployed on his 21st birthday, and he has already said, "we will celebrate when i come home." i would NEVER think of sending alcohol over there, and he would never think of asking me, (he would have hell to pay if he did). i think that anyone who sends or recieve/uses it is acting irresponsibly. for those that are sending it, it is a stupid thing to do, and can cause problems for more people than just you. for the people who recieve and use it, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!!!!!!! :vent you are in an active war zone, and even if you think you can sleep it off, it's still a stupid move. i sure as hell hope that no one who is being this irresponsible is anywhere near my DB. if i offended anyone, i'm sorry, but this is ridiculous :vent

Alex
12-11-2006, 10:44 AM
I sent it to my husband while he was in Iraq. I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.

:wow :rolleyes How unbelievably irresponsible of you and him! :no

Bex
12-11-2006, 11:16 AM
that's ridiculous!! j's roommate's wife, when they were deployed, sent him alcohol. i don't know why a spouse would risk their spouse's career and what not for a buzz.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 11:24 AM
:wow :rolleyes How unbelievably irresponsible of you and him! :no

it is not irresponsible of me or him. If I did not send it to him then he would have drank it there anyways. So why not send him something he likes to drink? I sent him cigs and copenhagen also, So does that make me irresponsible also? No I dont think so.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 11:27 AM
OK, I stayed away from this post but I just can't any more. These actions, and style of thinking is going to get more than one person killed. They're in fucking Iraq, WHEN ARE THEY NOT "DURING WAR TIME??????" And drinking when they know they can sleep it off? That kind of thinking is moronic because I can't count the number of times things were calm during the day, and my hubby got woken up by mortars and had to go take action. Also, even after 8 hours of sleep (which is not achievable over there) tests have shown that people still show alcohol in their system.

Also, if they need liquor for a release, they have issues.

Wow, I hope my husband wasn't over there when your husband was, and if he was, I hope they weren't within a hundred miles of each other, because what you did, and what your husband did was totally irresponsible and self serving.

It was a choice that we made, yes. He wanted it so I sent it to him. You dont have to fucking like it. IF that is what my Marine wanted then I sent it to him. Like I said, he could have drank it over there anyways so why not send him something he wanted? You dont fucking like it then oh well. Dont jump my ass about it. They do it over there alot more then your SO's tell you.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 11:28 AM
Needed a release, that is BS... Try working out that is a bigger release...

They were working out. Yes he wanted a drink over there. Sorry if you dont agree.

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 11:29 AM
it is not irresponsible of me or him. If I did not send it to him then he would have drank it there anyways. So why not send him something he likes to drink? I sent him cigs and copenhagen also, So does that make me irresponsible also? No I dont think so.

cigs and copenhagen, will not impair him to whereas anothers life is at stake. Yes it is totally irresponsible of the both of you. It is like hanidng him an open conatiner on the road. If anything were to happen you should share the blame. How can you even say that it is not irresponsibility?

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 11:32 AM
cigs and copenhagen, will not impair him to whereas anothers life is at stake. Yes it is totally irresponsible of the both of you. It is like hanidng him an open conatiner on the road. If anything were to happen you should share the blame. How can you even say that it is not irresponsibility?

You have the right to believe what you want to sweetheart. I feel that it was not irresponsible. You can make me feel like it was. Alot of guys were drinking over there. Are you going to jump their asses also for drinking? I just dont think it is fair that yall are jumping me, The post asked if someone had done it, Yea I did it. Would I do it again? Yea if he wanted it. Dont like well good you dont have because our men give us that right.

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 11:32 AM
They were working out. Yes he wanted a drink over there. Sorry if you dont agree.

Actually I find it disgusting. You are breaking a FEDERAL LAW!!!
Here is some reading for you. It contains a list of PROPER items to send.

http://www.adoptaplatoon.org/new/pdf/care.pdf

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 11:36 AM
Actually I find it disgusting. You are breaking a FEDERAL LAW!!!
Here is some reading for you. It contains a list of PROPER items to send.

http://www.adoptaplatoon.org/new/pdf/care.pdf

Like I said I am sorry you dont like it. Dont jump my ass over it! I did and it is over now. Nothing I can do about it now. I am stopping, If you want to continue that is your own issue. I have children to feed lunch to. Have a great day sweetheart!:)

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 11:36 AM
You have the right to believe what you want to sweetheart. I feel that it was not irresponsible. You can make me feel like it was. Alot of guys were drinking over there. Are you going to jump their asses also for drinking? I just dont think it is fair that yall are jumping me, The post asked if someone had done it, Yea I did it. Would I do it again? Yea if he wanted it. Dont like well good you dont have because our men give us that right.

You opened the can of worms honey, so this is what you get. Personally if my husband knew of someone drinking on the job, and yes even whe they are on "downtime" they still are on the job, he'd jump their ass. A lot of ladies that are on here SO's have been or in the sand right now, I know they do not and would not appreciate a drunken solider. I know i don't. Dud has a problem if he "needs" it perhaps he should go talk to a chaplin.

It just bothers me that you think this is some kind of joke. YOU as welll as your So are putting people's live sat risk. I don't think that to be so funny.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Sweetheart if you feel the need to bad mouth me then go ahead, I dont care. I know what it is like to have your man in the box. He was there twice. I am not going to appoligize for what I did. If you feel you need to continue this I feel real sorry for you. I have to go now. HAVE A GREAT DAY SWEETHEART! :)

christymichelle
12-11-2006, 11:40 AM
i was going to stay away from this but i guess i'll put my 2 cents in.

when my dh was deployed...they had once a month where they were given 2 beers. 2 cheap beers to drink. but that was all.
i'm a navy wife...but to me, it does sound a little scary for our guys that are on ground to be drinking. even if its when they are having "down time" or what not..to think of my man sleeping his alcohol off and to not possibly be alert if something was to happen, sounds really really scary to me.

i mean i dont know how they arrange these drinking days..like do they have places sectioned off so they know that a certain area of guys are having a drinking time? so if something does all of a sudden happen..they are more attentive to these guys:dunno

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 11:43 AM
Sweetheart if you feel the need to bad mouth me then go ahead, I dont care. I know what it is like to have your man in the box. He was there twice. I am not going to appoligize for what I did. If you feel you need to continue this I feel real sorry for you. I have to go now. HAVE A GREAT DAY SWEETHEART! :)


First of all I am NOT your SWEETHEART. I am sure I am much older and been around a hell of alot longer than you.
Secondly, I hope you never feel the harm or personaly know someone that is involved in a alcohol related incident. Either the victim or the person that has committed the "accident" . You lives will change forever.
Lastly, if you feel this is ok, perhaps your the one that need help.

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 11:45 AM
i was going to stay away from this but i guess i'll put my 2 cents in.

when my dh was deployed...they had once a month where they were given 2 beers. 2 cheap beers to drink. but that was all.
i'm a navy wife...but to me, it does sound a little scary for our guys that are on ground to be drinking. even if its when they are having "down time" or what not..to think of my man sleeping his alcohol off and to not possibly be alert if something was to happen, sounds really really scary to me.

i mean i dont know how they arrange these drinking days..like do they have places sectioned off so they know that a certain area of guys are having a drinking time? so if something does all of a sudden happen..they are more attentive to these guys:dunno


Christy, that normally is in a controlled situation, but to have soem random drunk out on the field. Im sorry that is TOTALLY wrong!
Our guys and gals over there have enough to worry about, then having to babysit a drunk.

christymichelle
12-11-2006, 11:48 AM
Christy, that normally is in a controlled situation, but to have soem random drunk out on the field. Im sorry that is TOTALLY wrong!
Our guys and gals over there have enough to worry about, then having to babysit a drunk.

i just didnt understand how they arranged that. but i agree with you about the randon drunkeness. i'm glad my baby is on a ship

sgmwife1
12-11-2006, 11:53 AM
You have the right to believe what you want to sweetheart. I feel that it was not irresponsible. You can make me feel like it was. Alot of guys were drinking over there. Are you going to jump their asses also for drinking? I just dont think it is fair that yall are jumping me, The post asked if someone had done it, Yea I did it. Would I do it again? Yea if he wanted it. Dont like well good you dont have because our men give us that right.

Our men also give us the right to help ensure their safety from home. Sending contraband is ILLEGAL. Surely hope a Commanding Officer doesnt get a hold of this information.

USMC ISSUED
12-11-2006, 11:54 AM
I agree... and the person who posted this post is the one we need to convince on this...

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 12:28 PM
I never said that my husband was some random drunk out in the field. He was on a base when they did it. I was thinking about this a while ago, Please dont talk bad about my husband for what he did. He wanted to do that and he did. I dont talk bad about your So's. This is what sucks about this site, If you dont agree with someone you jump their ass about it. This is not in the debate forum, and yet I have to defend myself. Want to talk bad about me then do so but dont talk bad about my man. And you dont know me, My grandfather was a really bad drunk driving home everynight with me and my brother in the truck. He could have killed us any moment. My Uncle did kill someone drunk driving. So please dont judge me. That is not for you to do, are you really that better then me? I mean have you really never done anything that others thought were stupid? If so throw the first stone.......

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 12:58 PM
I never said that my husband was some random drunk out in the field. He was on a base when they did it. I was thinking about this a while ago, Please dont talk bad about my husband for what he did. He wanted to do that and he did. I dont talk bad about your So's. This is what sucks about this site, If you dont agree with someone you jump their ass about it. This is not in the debate forum, and yet I have to defend myself. Want to talk bad about me then do so but dont talk bad about my man. And you dont know me, My grandfather was a really bad drunk driving home everynight with me and my brother in the truck. He could have killed us any moment. My Uncle did kill someone drunk driving. So please dont judge me. That is not for you to do, are you really that better then me? I mean have you really never done anything that others thought were stupid? If so throw the first stone.......

I am not judging you, but you feel that this is "ok" to do. It is disturbing to me that you can even entertain the idea

missinghim
12-11-2006, 01:02 PM
I would never send my husband/boyfriend/whatever alcohol because I would not be able to live with myself if something happened to him or anyone else because of it.

I also would not be willing to sacrifice his livlihood if he were to get caught with it :rolleyes

I think it's ridiculous that someone would send alcohol to a war zone.:dunno

Katiebugg
12-11-2006, 01:07 PM
Christy, that normally is in a controlled situation, but to have soem random drunk out on the field. Im sorry that is TOTALLY wrong!
Our guys and gals over there have enough to worry about, then having to babysit a drunk.

Heidi John laughed!!!!!!!!! Damn New Yorker! Said this is all messed up!!!!!!!! WOMEN!

sgmwife1
12-11-2006, 01:08 PM
I never said that my husband was some random drunk out in the field. He was on a base when they did it. I was thinking about this a while ago, Please dont talk bad about my husband for what he did. He wanted to do that and he did. I dont talk bad about your So's. This is what sucks about this site, If you dont agree with someone you jump their ass about it. This is not in the debate forum, and yet I have to defend myself. Want to talk bad about me then do so but dont talk bad about my man. And you dont know me, My grandfather was a really bad drunk driving home everynight with me and my brother in the truck. He could have killed us any moment. My Uncle did kill someone drunk driving. So please dont judge me. That is not for you to do, are you really that better then me? I mean have you really never done anything that others thought were stupid? If so throw the first stone.......

I don't "judge you", I am just stating a fact...it is ILLEGAL TO SEND CONTRABAND and you did with the admittance of you would do it again. Your wrong. I am not your judge. I just hope that one day SOON you will realize that it is not appropriate.

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 01:09 PM
I don't "judge you", I am just stating a fact...it is ILLEGAL TO SEND CONTRABAND and you did with the admittance of you would do it again. Your wrong. I am not your judge. I just hope that one day SOON you will realize that it is not appropriate.

So true, before he himself is hurt or hurts another.....

Chelly
12-11-2006, 01:18 PM
i'm glad my baby is on a ship

ditto!

Ellen
12-11-2006, 01:29 PM
So true, before he himself is hurt or hurts another.....

Or she goes to jail.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 01:33 PM
Your wrong. I am not your judge. .

That's Judging. Would you like me to tell you that you are wrong? No proably not.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 01:36 PM
So true, before he himself is hurt or hurts another.....

My husband is not a drunk. He has maybe had a couple of drinks this whole year. He maybe drank twice over there. Not on patrol nothing. On his down time.

Ellen
12-11-2006, 01:39 PM
That's Judging. Would you like me to tell you that you are wrong? No proably not.

You are wrong because you are breaking the law. Period. No judgement there. Black and White - the LAW.

MySoldiersWifey
12-11-2006, 01:41 PM
I sent it to my husband while he was in Iraq. I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.

My question to you is: When isn't it war time?

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 01:42 PM
You are wrong because you are breaking the law. Period. No judgement there. Black and White - the LAW.

So you mean to tell me that you 100% never break the law? Never speed? That is breaking the law so You are wrong!

missinghim
12-11-2006, 01:43 PM
My question to you is: When isn't it war time?

That is what I didn't understand either. Do we just call a 'time-out' so that we can drink? :no

missinghim
12-11-2006, 01:45 PM
So you mean to tell me that you 100% never break the law? Never speed? That is breaking the law so You are wrong!

Yes, speeding is breaking the law. I'm sure she'll agree with you on that. The point is that you refuse to see that what you are doing is wrong and is breaking the law.

USMC ISSUED
12-11-2006, 01:46 PM
How about this post just stops..... I have my .2 on this ... but they WILL NOT COME OUT ....


I am not going to chime in here and say what is right and wrong......


this is turning to a one person attack, weither you agree with her or not.....

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 01:48 PM
Look, I am tired of this shit! I am not going to comment anymore on here. If you all want to continue this go ahead, I should not have even started again. You will think what you want. You will not respect me or my husband and I will not do this anymore. I am sorry that you feel the need to degrade me or what I say. I am proud of my husband and what he did do in Iraq. None of you would even know because the women who are attacking me have never taken time to know me. That is sad. I do hope that you have a great day yall. If you want to nit pick over everything I have said and done then please do. I am very done with this. :goodluck Best of luck everyone! Have a great day!

Ellen
12-11-2006, 01:51 PM
So you mean to tell me that you 100% never break the law? Never speed? That is breaking the law so You are wrong!

Obviously by your reactions, you feel that it's ok for you to break the law and send Contraband thru the mail into a warzone. If you can have a clean conscience about it, then how dare anyone point out to you how unbelievable irresponsible it is. :nutts

I have relatives over in Iraq fighting in this war. I do NOT appreciate ANYONE taking it upon themselves to think that they know what goes on over there. War is War. If the leaders of the military feel that the conditions are ok to have a 'break from the war' (if you could even call it that) and give the troops a beer or 2 - that's on the leaders of the military. THEY know the conditions. THEY know the orders that are to be carried out. THEY know what missions are coming up........on the other hand, someone NOT Directly involved in the day to day WAR over in Iraq thinking it is their place to send alcohol to troops to drink at their convenience is very irresponsible.....

VinnysGirl
12-11-2006, 01:58 PM
That's Judging. Would you like me to tell you that you are wrong? No proably not.


honey, the law states you are wrong... that's a judge that would judge you if you were to be caught sending ILLEGAL items to your husband in the mail. There is a reason there are items on a list you CANNOT send in the mail. It's for the safety of all. If your husband was on a base then he should be able to buy alcohol over there. Send him money instead. He should be able to get copenhagen and cigs over there as well. SO many other soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen do it what makes it different for you to be able to send it to him and for him to be able to receive it in the mail??? I don't see where you are justified to do that and I don't see where anyone else is justified. You are making what he fights for worthless. You are stomping all over his sacrifice for the laws and freedoms we are to ABIDE by everyday. It's illegal to send it in the mail.. that's not us TELLING you you can't that's the GOVERNMENT telling you you can't. Don't jump our asses because YOU made a decision to do something ILLEGAL!!!! :wink

=Mrs.AiNokeA=
12-11-2006, 02:11 PM
I wouldnt send my DH any alcohol but then again he doesnt drink anywayz so there wouldnt be a point. :)

aprilloveshim
12-11-2006, 02:18 PM
It's against the law to mail alcoholic beverages.


this is true, and if a deployed military person is found with alcohol, they could be demoted, get decreased pay grade etc.

xo

VinnysGirl
12-11-2006, 02:20 PM
this is true, and if a deployed military person is found with alcohol, they could be demoted, get decreased pay grade etc.

xo



yeah and it would be even more sad if something were to happen and he accidentally shot another service member and we to get court marshalled and sent to prison. That would be a real tragedy!!!

Kaymara
12-11-2006, 02:20 PM
This actually woulda been better suited for the debate forum.

As far as anything else goes. Truthfully, if you post you've done something, whether or not its right or wrong in your eyes,then expect people to have differing opinions on it. Regardless of whether or not its in the debate forum. But. Even if you DO differ in opinion lets try to keep it civil in the differences in opinion. I'm not saying no one is being civil. I am just posting a friendly reminder is all.

aprilloveshim
12-11-2006, 02:23 PM
I sent it to my husband while he was in Iraq. I trusted him to not drink during war time and they only did it when they knew for sure they were off to sleep it off. They never got "drunk" over there but they needed a little relase. If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.


i hope you know that it probably would have been best to keep this to yourself, because if anyone on here had anything to do with your husband, they could go and tattle to an NCO... sometimes if we make bad choices that are strictly and publicly forbidden, its obvious to keep our mouth shut.

xo

*Crystal*
12-11-2006, 02:32 PM
It was a choice that we made, yes. He wanted it so I sent it to him. You dont have to fucking like it. IF that is what my Marine wanted then I sent it to him. Like I said, he could have drank it over there anyways so why not send him something he wanted? You dont fucking like it then oh well. Dont jump my ass about it. They do it over there alot more then your SO's tell you.

So if YOUR Marine wanted some drugs and a cheap whore would you send him that too??

marine_wife26
12-11-2006, 02:44 PM
I would just like to add that we have probably all done things in our lives that were not proud of or that we just shouldnt have done and for those things most of us are remorseful for them. You on the other hand DO NOT seem remorseful for what you have done, you still try to defend the fact that you put ALL of our husbands lives at risk by sending your DH alcohol sweetheart. :nutts So next time you do something so stupid :duh if you dont want everyone to jump you about it DONT POST IT for everyone to read sweetheart! Have a GREAT DAY SWEETHEART. :tease

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 02:52 PM
I just dont understand why you are being so rude, Yea i did it. No Im not remorseful. You write what you want and dont think of hurting peoples feelings. Shame on you. It was done two years ago. It is over. You will not make me feel bad for doing it. If you want to make fun of me, how mature of you! I thought this group was for support not to tear other people down. Because you are sure doing a great job of doing it. I am just about to fucking quit comming here because this is horse shit man! Grow up, it is over and done with but dont belittle me and talk bad about me. Shame on all of you! a

and go ahead say shame on me for sending it in the first place because I know that is next!

Ellen
12-11-2006, 03:00 PM
I just dont understand why you are being so rude, Yea i did it. No Im not remorseful. You write what you want and dont think of hurting peoples feelings. Shame on you. It was done two years ago. It is over. You will not make me feel bad for doing it. If you want to make fun of me, how mature of you! I thought this group was for support not to tear other people down. Because you are sure doing a great job of doing it. I am just about to fucking quit comming here because this is horse shit man! Grow up, it is over and done with but dont belittle me and talk bad about me. Shame on all of you! a

and go ahead say shame on me for sending it in the first place because I know that is next!

I'm sorry if you feel like people are picking on you. Nobody has made fun of you, called you any names, or intentionally hurt your feelings. I believe, from what I have read, that people voiced their belief that it was wrong of you to send alcohol over to Iraq. That's it. You got defensive. Nobody belittled you. Nobody talked bad about you.

missinghim
12-11-2006, 03:01 PM
If you think I am a bad person for that then you can think what you want. I really dont care.

Writing that in your very first post put you on the defensive before anyone ever attacked you. :dunno

If you 'really didn't care' then you wouldn't be considering leaving the board. Everyone has different opinions about things.

Kaymara
12-11-2006, 03:03 PM
Again....

If you post something controversial please be expected to hear opinions on it. BOTH good and bad

You can have a differing opinion and post it without belitting someone or being rude. That goes both ways.

We can all agree and disagree on many things. It doesnt make the site less supportive

Thank you!

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 03:04 PM
because in the beginning everyone already had a bad attitude toward it. That is why I put that there. But you people are being mean and I just dont know why. I Have never done anything wrong to any of you. I have supported you all and you have no right to treat me that way. Just because this is the internet someone is on the other side and they have feelings, and you all have hurt mine. You have not supported you have tore me down. Thank you very much.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 03:06 PM
Again....

If you post something controversial please be expected to hear opinions on it. BOTH good and bad

You can have a differing opinion and post it without belitting someone or being rude. That goes both ways.

We can all agree and disagree on many things. It doesnt make the site less supportive

Thank you!

I did not realize this was going to be controversal. I just thought someone was asking if they had done it. THat is all because I did not want this at all. I dont deserve it at all. I have done nothing wrong to deserve it!

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 03:08 PM
because in the beginning everyone already had a bad attitude toward it. That is why I put that there. But you people are being mean and I just dont know why. I Have never done anything wrong to any of you. I have supported you all and you have no right to treat me that way. Just because this is the internet someone is on the other side and they have feelings, and you all have hurt mine. You have not supported you have tore me down. Thank you very much.

It is wrong plain and simple and you, as well as you husband put others in harms way. Not only the fact that it is illegal, but think about it. Alcohol is also flammable. Not only ode sit make people impaired in an area where they need to be alert, but it also poses a fire hazzard. There are rules / laws for reasons. They are just not to interfere with peoples lives.

What floors me is that your attitude is "Oh well"

VinnysGirl
12-11-2006, 03:08 PM
Our support may not be in the form of clapping and praising you for sending the alcohol to Iraq, but maybe instead be a constructive Criticism to let you know what you did was illegal and maybe in some way be a support to let you know we care and don't want you or your husband to get into any legal trouble or for someone in Iraq to be hurt because of the alcohol... don't take it as us trashing you or attacking you because of the simple action... take it as us trying to help in some way for you to realize that it wasn't a very wise decision to send that... there are definitely more consequences to the alcohol in the mail to Iraq than benefits!!! Don't think we are being mean because we want to make sure our husbands and our family and our friends stay safe over there!!!!

HEIDI
12-11-2006, 03:10 PM
YOUR actions were / are just plain STUPID!!! Don't expect to be priased for it.

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 03:11 PM
You all make it seem like I am the only one who has broken the law. I just dont know what to tell you? Ok yeah it is against the law but I still did it. I mean is that all you are going to keep saying? I am not going to appoligize about it. I just cant believe how horrible yall have been. I just dont know what you want me to do? :dunno

Sailors_Girl00
12-11-2006, 03:12 PM
Are you sure that you are a Marine wife and not a Sailors wife? Because you have a mouth like a sailor. You are the only one cursing here. As being a military wife you should have learned by now how to take constructive criticism. We are all just voicing our oppinion just like you were allowed to when you first posted your comment.

Kaymara
12-11-2006, 03:12 PM
because in the beginning everyone already had a bad attitude toward it. That is why I put that there. But you people are being mean and I just dont know why. I Have never done anything wrong to any of you. I have supported you all and you have no right to treat me that way. Just because this is the internet someone is on the other side and they have feelings, and you all have hurt mine. You have not supported you have tore me down. Thank you very much.

Ok this is where I am gonna throw in my .02 cents

This is a support site. Definatly. We are all very supportive of one another. BUT we all are individuals and speak our minds. If you post something, like sending booze over to Iraq, You are going to have to expect people to have strong opinions on that. Very strong. People aren't just going to say "oh its ok, you did what you had to" Support comes in many different shapes and forms. I dont think, people whom disagree with sending booze, should be expected to support a decision like that. They are entitled to their opinion. If you were cheating on your spouse, then posted about it, do you think everyone would just say "its ok, hes gone, your doing the right thing" No way. People are going to have some very strong opinions on that.

Truthfully I dont think you should feel the need to leave the site and I am sorry your feelings are hurt. But if thats the case then maybe on hot topics like that it'd be best to not post about certain things you've done to avoid that

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 03:14 PM
I did not know that it was going to be such a big deal or I would not have entered my answer. I did not want to be in the middle of controversry. I never get involved in stuff like this just for this reason!

I_Love_my_marine
12-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Are you sure that you are a Marine wife and not a Sailors wife? Because you have a mouth like a sailor. You are the only one cursing here. As being a military wife you should have learned by now how to take constructive criticism. We are all just voicing our oppinion just like you were allowed to when you first posted your comment.

Ok seriously please use your real user name. I mean you dont want me to know who you are? And yes I am sure I am a Marines wife because even if I was a Sailors wife I would still not be a Sailor!

aprilloveshim
12-11-2006, 03:18 PM
But if thats the case then maybe on hot topics like that it'd be best to not post about certain things you've done to avoid that


its simple!!! dont hold the scarlet letter unless you want to be judged.. cause thats what will happen.

i would like to say that as a proud fiancee and friend to many people that have been deployed, i never thought of trying to get them in trouble for my stupid laps of judgement.

and another thing someone said about it being a fire hazzard, that may be so, but the tents are all drenched in karosene for a reason (i dont remember why) so yeah.

yes, i personally have broken the law, i have also paid my dues for what i did... I guess if you want to hold that scarlet letter and do things that could get your man in trouble, then go ahead, i am such a huge believer in karma "what you give is what you get returned" i would never wish anything bad on you, i hope you find a way to accept what you did was wrong someday though.

xo

Punchie
12-11-2006, 05:24 PM
First off, it seems like people are getting up in arms about alcohol in a war zone. Up until either WWI or WWII, alcohol was ISSUED AS A RATION to soldiers on the front line (like rum or beer). It was issued throughout history. It helped ease their fear of what was going on, etc...There is nothing wrong w/a little bit of something to take the edge off. For example, the trench warfare of WWI, the guys were giving rum before having to leave the trench to start shooting.

That being said, there's nothing wrong w/a guy having a drink while he's over there. They're seeing some pretty shitty things, and if a bit of alcohol will take the edge off and make it a bit easier for them to cope, then so be it. I'm assuming they're going to be smart enough to NOT drink when they're actually out attending to business.

I sent DH alcohol in deployments past. I'm aware it's illegal to do so, but personally, if it helps him keep his sanity while he's there, then bully for him. He's not going to go buckwild about it and get trashed. And he sure as hell isn't going to be drunk/hungover when he's doing his job. Too many lives are at stake.

ash
12-11-2006, 05:37 PM
I really think it is irresponsible to send alcohol to men in a warzone. I just cannot see a valid reason for doing so. There have to be more ways to take the edge off than to put the men over there in danger. While you may say your husband would never get drunk and be irresponsible with it, who is to say someone he shares it with won't. And it is still on your conscience that you supplied the alcohol. I know if someone I loved that is over there asked me to send them something that breaks the law and could risk the safety of himself and others, I would say no. I know i love my friends that have gone over there too much to let them make a bad decision like that.

Kara
12-11-2006, 05:54 PM
We could try to be happy for her that her husband is alive and just let it be regardless of our opinions about it.

aprilloveshim
12-11-2006, 05:58 PM
First off, it seems like people are getting up in arms about alcohol in a war zone. Up until either WWI or WWII, alcohol was ISSUED AS A RATION to soldiers on the front line (like rum or beer). It was issued throughout history. It helped ease their fear of what was going on, etc...There is nothing wrong w/a little bit of something to take the edge off. For example, the trench warfare of WWI, the guys were giving rum before having to leave the trench to start shooting.

That being said, there's nothing wrong w/a guy having a drink while he's over there. They're seeing some pretty shitty things, and if a bit of alcohol will take the edge off and make it a bit easier for them to cope, then so be it. I'm assuming they're going to be smart enough to NOT drink when they're actually out attending to business.

I sent DH alcohol in deployments past. I'm aware it's illegal to do so, but personally, if it helps him keep his sanity while he's there, then bully for him. He's not going to go buckwild about it and get trashed. And he sure as hell isn't going to be drunk/hungover when he's doing his job. Too many lives are at stake.


this is like excusing women to drink during their pregnancy, because even in the 80's doctors were still telling women it was ok.

its also like saying its ok to give children alcohol because "medicine has it in there too"..

if it was ok to drink during a deployment still, then it wouldnt be outlawed. before defending the past, make sure you arent defending the future too.

there are reasons why things have been put into place, if you want to send your guy something, thats your own choice, just remember you have nobody to blame (even past wars) but yourself.

xo

leftover
12-11-2006, 06:39 PM
you put ALL of our husbands lives at risk by sending your DH alcohol


That was my point in starting this thread...

Don't our guys have enough to worry about regarding their safety without worrying about if someone might be a little tipsy?

Shep's Wife
12-11-2006, 06:59 PM
I accidently sent my dh some on the ship for christmas in 2001. I bought him some of those little chocolate jack danials bottles. Thinking they where just little chocolates, not laoded with jack inside:blush I bought them at the commisary so I thought they would be fine. But I got into trouble with dh when he got it on the ship:teehee he threw them away because he was so scared he would get into trouble. opps:duh

Shep's Wife
12-11-2006, 07:07 PM
Not to mention tobacco products!

are you serious:shock ??? I have mailed my dh copenhagen several times during the past 3 cruises, god I feel like such a jackass now for not knowing:blush

leftover
12-11-2006, 07:18 PM
are you serious:shock ??? I have mailed my dh copenhagen several times during the past 3 cruises, god I feel like such a jackass now for not knowing:blush

You're not supposed to send it through the mail, but they can purchace it over there. It's not against the law for them to posses.

And it certainly won't put anyones life in danger---like alcohol..

The reason you're not supposed to send it, is because the military has a contract with KBR, to sell it duty free..

You're not supposed to send it because the military wants their cut of the profits.

However.... KBR can only sell a certain amout per year, that's why the px sells out of Skoal in a day. They only get a limited supply to sell..

CoffeeGirl
12-11-2006, 07:24 PM
bad idea if you aks me,period, Its just too risky & dangerous

Shep's Wife
12-11-2006, 07:24 PM
I knew that he could buy it there, I just thought I would be nice and put a can in every so often. But I guess I wont anymore. I am sure if knew it was a no-no he would tell me not to send it anyways:) It is nice to know that for next time he is haze grey and underway.

Laurie119
12-11-2006, 08:45 PM
Tobacco and tobacco products should not be sent to Iraq/Afghanistan, but it is fine to send to ships, because they are on US government property.

LaurenOC
12-11-2006, 09:09 PM
Its possible and I know A LOT of guys who have done it. And they have pics of themselves with handles of Captin and such in the tents.

When dh was there the last time with the Gaurd they had a black market going with some Air Force guys that would fly to Germany and back a few times a week. They got some crazy stuff. Plus you can get it from the Iraqis. DHs friends are asking him for "haji juice."

rockchalkmeg
12-12-2006, 12:47 AM
I realize Im getting in on this a little late but I have some opinions I need to get out. I am a navy g/f so when I speak about the guys on the ground over there I am speaking in a general sense. First of all, I dont think anyone was trying to hurt your feelings by any means. Out of pure concern for our SO's we just want to make you see that it isnt right to send alcohol into a war zone. It really bothers me (and im sure others as well) that you say you don't regret doing it and that you would do it again. I just hope that after all of these posts you come to a realization that maybe it isnt such a good idea. Second, I dont appreciate you saying "They do it over there alot more then your SO's tell you" accusing our SO's of lying to us about what is going on over there and thinking that they are partaking in the irresponsibility as well. Finally, i don't understand how you can make the comparison of sending alcohol into a war zone is equivelant to speeding? That just doesnt seem like a valid comparison to me. Anyways... I just wanted to say that. Have a good night

LittleMsSunshine
12-12-2006, 03:19 PM
Its possible and I know A LOT of guys who have done it. And they have pics of themselves with handles of Captin and such in the tents.

When dh was there the last time with the Gaurd they had a black market going with some Air Force guys that would fly to Germany and back a few times a week. They got some crazy stuff. Plus you can get it from the Iraqis. DHs friends are asking him for "haji juice."

I heard similar stories from one of my girlfriends who spent the last year in Iraq. Her job was mainly in the office and I don't think she ever really left the base (whatever it's called? I don't know army lingo)... but she said there were guys getting drunk off of jagermeister and the "haji juice" all the time when they had free time.

I'm not trying to take sides here... I know I certainly wouldn't be happy if I found out another guy's decision to get plastered was jeopardizing my boyfriend/fiance/husband's safety. But at the same time... if done "responsibly" during down-time, I don't think a beer or two is a very big deal... I dunno.

I've never been in a warzone, nor have I had to worry about a SO in a warzone. I guess I don't really know how I'd feel unless I were in those shoes.

Crystal520
12-16-2006, 07:40 PM
[QUOTE=Laurie119;595583]
Also, if they need liquor for a release, they have issues. QUOTE]

I understand the release part because have you ever had one of those days when all you want is to just wind down and have a magarita??? Just imagine the stress our men have to go through over there, so let them have a freaking beer!!

First of all I am NOT your SWEETHEART. I am sure I am much older and been around a hell of alot longer than you.
Secondly, I hope you never feel the harm or personaly know someone that is involved in a alcohol related incident. Either the victim or the person that has committed the "accident" . You lives will change forever.
Lastly, if you feel this is ok, perhaps your the one that need help.


OK for me, I am currently dealing with an inccident that my DF has gotten himself into involving alcohol and even before this inccident I don't think I would have sent my DF something like that in the mail. But now that I have answered the question I will defend her. It was her choice and just because you don't respect it you shouldn't insult her like this. All she did was answer the question and didn't do anymore than that. Don't judge people. It is not fair. We are all human and we have the right to make our own decisions. Personally I don't understand why so much drama can spring from a simple question :shrug

Crystal520
12-16-2006, 07:48 PM
So if YOUR Marine wanted some drugs and a cheap whore would you send him that too??

Now this comment was just uncalled for :shame

leftover
12-16-2006, 08:10 PM
It was her choice and just because you don't respect it you shouldn't insult her like this. All she did was answer the question and didn't do anymore than that. Don't judge people. It is not fair. We are all human and we have the right to make our own decisions. Personally I don't understand why so much drama can spring from a simple question :shrug

I don't think issue so much is making choices. It's the idea that having someone in theater who is under the influence can put all of our DHs, DFs and DBs at risk...

They should be able to put their lives in the hands of other soldiers, and not have to worry if one Joe had a few nips from a bottle that afternoon..

These kind of choices effect all of us. Not just one guy.. KWIM?