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Legs
02-03-2007, 05:29 PM
My grandfather is 90 and my mother sent a letter to the DMV requesting her be retested for his driver's license. He has hit 3 cars in one year because he thought he had enough room to stop. I am completely for the test.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070203/ap_on_re_us/older_drivers

Crash spurs concerns about older drivers

SHILOH, Ill. - After an 84-year-old driver plowed through an elementary school lunchroom this week, killing an 8-year-old boy, his mother pressed lawmakers to bar the elderly from getting behind the wheel.

"We very much support a mandatory limit on the driving age for seniors," Amanda Wesling wrote in a missive directed at driver Grace Keim, who authorities say was en route to a driving class at a senior citizen's center Monday when she struck Ryan Wesling.

Wesling's plea raises new questions about how old is too old to drive, an issue state legislatures continue to grapple with in the wake of similar tragedies in recent years. While many states have enacted or are considering tougher testing for older drivers, they're weighing those changes against the rights of millions of older people to have the independence a license allows.

Among the incidents prompting calls for change:

• In November, an 89-year-old man whose car hurtled through a farmers market in California in 2003, killing 10 people and injuring more than 70 others, received five years of probation because a judge deemed him too ill to go to prison.

• Last August, a sport utility vehicle driven by an 89-year-old man plowed into pedestrians and vendors at an open-air public market in Rochester, N.Y., injuring 10 people.

• In October 2005 in North Dakota, an 87-year-old woman on her way to a doctor appointment smashed her car into the hospital's lobby, injuring five women.

At least two dozen states and the District of Columbia have laws singling out older drivers for special attention, from required road tests to vision examinations, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

In Connecticut, there's a legislative push to require automatic retesting of anyone over 75 who has had more than two wrecks in a calendar year, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. In New York, a pending measure would halve to two years the renewal period for anyone over 70.

"Different states are doing different things, but they're addressing the issue," said Anne Teigen, a research analyst for the NCSL. Still, she says, legislatures are trying to balance safety concerns against the unwavering fact that older Americans want to drive.

Illinois has some of the nation's toughest restrictions on older drivers, joining New Hampshire in requiring a road test for renewals after age 75. Illinois also is among at least 15 states that have an accelerated renewal schedule for older drivers, requiring renewals every two years from ages 81 to 86, and then every year after that.

Democratic Illinois state Rep. Kurt Granberg says setting an age for drivers to hand over their keys wouldn't be appropriate because "everyone's different." But he says he wouldn't be surprised if Ryan's death prods lawmakers to revisit the state's requirements for older drivers.

Advocacy groups for the elderly urge states not to overreact to each incident, noting that accidents happen in every age group and that taking away an older person's license could rob them of their independence.

"The issue is not age; it has to do with the person's physical and mental limitations, and that goes beyond age," said Beverly Moore of Illinois' AARP.

Older drivers, she says, still tend to be more cautious behind the wheel, and family members can be involved in helping decide when a driver should give up the keys.

Studies have shown that vision, reaction time and other driving skills can diminish as drivers age.

Statistics from the Insurance Institute show that older drivers generally are as safe as other age groups until they reach 75, when they tend to have more accidents. Drivers 85 and older are about as likely to be involved in a fatal crash as those ages 16 to 19, but they're more likely to die than others in car crashes because their bodies are frailer, according to the institute.

Keim's license was up for renewal March 3, her 85th birthday, and her driving record shows no citations, according to state records. Investigators have not said what caused her to drive up a dead-end drive and never stop, hurtling through Shiloh Elementary's cafeteria, killing Ryan and injuring two schoolmates.

While sympathetic to Ryan's family, 67-year-old Joan Juergens considers his death "totally a freak occurrence" that shouldn't require stiffening Illinois' licensing requirements for older drivers.

"I don't think you can broadbrush one age group and say it can't drive anymore. It's unfair," Juergens said.

Others aren't so sure. At 66, Mary Baum says she wouldn't mind state lawmakers taking a fresh look at Illinois' licensing protocol after an elderly aunt of her husband's flunked a drivers license test, then admitted to the family that her vision was failing from age-related macular degeneration.

"Something has to be done," Baum said. "Some are qualified to drive, some are not. And I would not want to be on the road if I'm not."

USMC ISSUED
02-03-2007, 05:31 PM
yes they should !!!

I think after 75 they should be high risk !!!

Shep's Wife
02-03-2007, 05:34 PM
OMG yes they should!! My Grandpa is scary on the road, he has even side swiped semi truck!! We go out of our way to drive for him so he doesnt drive himself.

VinnysGirl
02-03-2007, 05:35 PM
Yup! I think it's in their best interest and the best interest of the rest of the driving public! My great gma still drives sometimes and OMG she drives like a teenager! It's scary!!!

Kat
02-03-2007, 05:41 PM
:yes Totally agree. And when I am old, I will have NO problem taking the test as well. Better to be safe than sorry.

USMC ISSUED
02-03-2007, 05:41 PM
yeap !!!

Proud Navy Wife
02-03-2007, 05:55 PM
totally my great gma still driving at age 85 has some crazy ideas about what is okay to do. like if on the freeway someone wont let you over its okay to touch your outside mirror to theres and if that doesnt work then she just comes to a complete stop on the freeway! i've ridden w/her enough times through town to learn to sit low in my seat squeeze my eyes shut and literally hold on to my seat w/both hands. trust me its not just me either no one in my family likes the idea of her driving whenever we know shes going somewhere someone will offer to give her a ride w/the excuse they were planning on going there anyway even if its to a store they think is too expensive.

sgmwife1
02-03-2007, 05:57 PM
One of the hardest things to do is help a loved one understand the need to turn in the keys.
But YES they should be re tested.

~Jess~
02-03-2007, 06:10 PM
Oh yes after 75 they should have to re-test. It's for their saftey and for everyone elses too.

harrisonsdream
02-03-2007, 06:13 PM
yes i think they should have to take a driver's test every year after they turn old enough to get social security. that may seem harsh but its my opinion

Cdawn45
02-03-2007, 06:25 PM
Yes i think they should be re-tested. I say it should start before 75 though. Maybe around 65-70.

Proud Navy Wife
02-03-2007, 06:27 PM
it might seem harsh at first but really when you think about its not cause its for their safety as well as for the other drivers safetly

DakotaCowgirl
02-03-2007, 06:37 PM
I agree. They should be tested. I also agree with the Social Security one. I hope my dad didn't hear that.:teehee

Proud Navy Wife
02-03-2007, 06:40 PM
I agree. They should be tested. I also agree with the Social Security one. I hope my dad didn't hear that.:teehee

:thumbsup :lmao

SchlegelsBaby
02-03-2007, 08:17 PM
I think that they should take the test too. I don't condone not letting them drive. My pawpaw is almost 77 years old and is still driving. Sure he's slow on the road, but he's just being cautious. He usually only does short distance driving. Anytime it is more than 45 minutes away, my aunts take him and mawmaw.

sdshorty
02-03-2007, 10:50 PM
I definitely think after a person hits senior citizen status they should have to take a yearly driving test, I know it may be tough for someone who is older to accept it, but its just a fact that the older one gets the harder it becomes to do certain things.

Amber V
02-03-2007, 10:55 PM
YES!!!!! My first accident with someone was with an elderly gentlemen on vacation. He ran a red light that was red for a long time before he ran it.

ETA~ And we should all save these posts and re-read them when we get old :rofl

armywifebridges
02-03-2007, 11:30 PM
I argee. My Dhs grandma gave my mil her drives lis at the age aof 85 (on her own) she is now 93 almost 94 and she is glad that she gave it up.