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harrisonsdream
05-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Marriage license bill OK'd
The Senate plan would double fee unless couples attend classes


By POLLY ROSS HUGHES
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau


MATRIMONY 101

The marriage classes would stress anger control and how to resolve disputes without a fight, says bill author Rep. Warren Chisum.

• Language: They'd teach men the language of women

• Attention: help women understand that men have short attention spans

• Respect: would teach each member of the couple to respect each other's space.

AUSTIN — Legislation to double marriage license fees to $60 unless couples undergo prenuptial counseling flew through the Texas Senate Friday with unanimous approval.

Critics in the lower chamber derided House Bill 2685 as a marriage tax, a punishment for falling in love and even an intrusion into the bedrooms of ordinary Texans, but the Senate adopted the measure with little explanation and no debate.

And, while the House stripped the bill of the marriage license fee hike, leaving it at the current $30, the Senate adopted the increased rate for those who refuse to take a pre-marriage class. Couples who take the class would get a free marriage license.

Among several pushed by the Texas Conservative Coalition this spring to encourage healthier marriages, the bill might be the only one to survive, said Rep. Warren Chisum, R-Pampa, its author.

It now returns to the House, where members can concur with the Senate version or send the bill to a conference committee.

"Maybe they'll be asleep and won't catch it," Chisum joked, referring to those who gutted his bill in April by refusing to allow the fee hike.

"I think the House will concur with the Senate," he added. Chisum's bill, sponsored by Sen. Craig Estes, R-Wichita Falls in the Senate, takes a carrot-and-stick approach. If couples take an approved eight-hour marriage course, they pay no fee. If not, they pay double.

Such an approach caused consternation in the House among Republicans and Democrats during debate last month, with critics comparing the counseling approach to the "nanny" state.

"That could be a fight," predicted Rep. Gary Elkins, R-Houston. "People want to encourage getting married, not make more money on fees for the city or county courthouse or whatever. I just don't think it's needed."

Rep. Garnet Coleman, D-Houston, said Chisum is taking a risk that the House will kill a negotiated bill between the House and Senate if it contains the marriage fee hike.

"It's bad law," he said. "It's the first time I've ever seen someone get charged more for not going to some kind of class. It's a punishment without a crime being committed. Clearly it becomes a marriage tax. If you don't want to do that, you pay more."

The Senate also passed a companion marriage bill that would allow the Texas Health and Human Services Commission to free up $10 million from a welfare grant to pay for prenuptial classes for low-income Texans.

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encouraging learning how to communicate and fight without violence is a brillant idea!!

Lilithdrff
05-12-2007, 05:08 PM
• Language: They'd teach men the language of women

• Attention: help women understand that men have short attention spans


I'm sorry but... :rofl . Good luck "teaching" men the "language" of women...and really? kids have short attention spans, that doesn't excuse bad behavior, or anything else. And yeah....like an 8 hour course can really teach anyone anything about actual marriage. :no

I seriously doubt many are going to do an 8 hour class to save themselves $60 bucks. But I guess their hearts were in the right place when they came up with the plan.

=Mrs.AiNokeA=
05-12-2007, 05:41 PM
I'm sorry but... :rofl . Good luck "teaching" men the "language" of women...and really? kids have short attention spans, that doesn't excuse bad behavior, or anything else. And yeah....like an 8 hour course can really teach anyone anything about actual marriage. :no

I seriously doubt many are going to do an 8 hour class to save themselves $60 bucks. But I guess their hearts were in the right place when they came up with the plan.

I agree with you :yes Plus what about people who get married fast and cant take the stupid class. DH and I got married when he was home on leave and I wouldnt want to go to a darn class which I feel wouldnt have done any good except save me some money. Who knows it might help someone but I wouldnt have done it.

Ashnbri
05-13-2007, 01:42 PM
That is so dumb...they are just trying to make it harder for people to want to get married in my opinion. I don't really think you can "Teach" people about marriage they need to learn about it themselves by trial and error (knowing what pushes there spouses buttons and knowing how each other argue..etc)

harrisonsdream
05-13-2007, 01:43 PM
i think the general idea behind it is good because so may people don't realize what marriage really is.

Jennifer
05-13-2007, 01:45 PM
honestly-I think this is a great class. I think it should be required in all states that premarital counseling be a requirement-except their CAN be a military waiver for those who marry on leave....I really think some basic premarital and family counseling can go a long way in helping out a lot of relationships.

Amber V
05-13-2007, 01:51 PM
I agree with the idea. I think it would have saved a lot of people I know from going through with it in the first place.

Ellen
05-13-2007, 01:58 PM
That's Ridiculous