do you think that schools should randomly drug test? only on suspicion? test everyone and not just athletes?

I ABSOLUTELY think that there should be schoolwide random drug tests of EVERY student. Not just a test group of 6 random students, but the entire school on random days throughout the year. There should also be stiff consequences involving community service for people who test positive.

I think if they are going to test the athletes test them all... why just test them?
This is why my cousin doesn't play sports in highschool... too afraid to pop on a piss test for her weed smoking at 16 :rolleyes

Nothing like some good ole Saturday morning at the crack of dawn community service to make you want to lay the drugs aside :yes
Well, not every case scenario but it has worked for people I went to school with. My exdb in highschool was serving community service when we started dating for underage drinking and he bought it and then when the cops tried to pull them over they threw it out the windown :duh

I think they sould ALL be tested!

I agree I think they should all be tested. Most parents probably don't even know their kid is doing anything and this way is a good way to find out and help them. But don't let them know which day it will be or they might skip school. :giggle Either that or if they miss the day make them do it the next time they are in school. :yes

I agree I think they should all be tested. Most parents probably don't even know their kid is doing anything and this way is a good way to find out and help them. But don't let them know which day it will be or they might skip school. :giggle Either that or if they miss the day make them do it the next time they are in school. :yes
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I think as long as the parents are aware of it, then yes. That pretty much elimates the problem of some parent who's kid tested positive for something sueing the school system, screaming viololation of privacy or something.

I dont think the school should get involved unless a student brings drugs to the school. Then I feel that if the court or juvenille system orders testing it should be done by local health officials and not the school.

Parents at some point need to be responsible for their own kids. I feel that if a parent suspects drugs they should take their child to get tested. It, IMO, should not ever be in the hands of the school system.

Yes.....I think schools should do random drug testing on ALL students.

No, I do not think students should be randomly tested for drugs. I pretty much agree with what Ash said about it. For me too it is about their rights as well. I mean should we randomly test ALL American citizens for drugs. I am not talking about through your place of employment either, I mean every adult could get a slip in the mail saying to show up at such and such time to be drug tested.

I dont think the school should get involved unless a student brings drugs to the school. Then I feel that if the court or juvenille system orders testing it should be done by local health officials and not the school.

Parents at some point need to be responsible for their own kids. I feel that if a parent suspects drugs they should take their child to get tested. It, IMO, should not ever be in the hands of the school system.

I can understand if the parents suspects something of course they should take them in to get tested. But sometimes they just have no idea... it's not that they are bad parents it's just something they didn't see happening. My youngest sister smoked pot and drank all the time and my mom had no idea. My other two sisters and I never did that but my youngest one did and my mom wouldn't have known till I found out and told her about it. If the schools tested the students as long as the parents agreed than my mom would have found out as soon as my sister did it and helped her as much as she could. BTW my sister is fine she pretty much got off of it on her own and doesn't do that crap anymore but not all kids do that.

I remember when I was in high school, I would get high as a friggin kite with my friends at lunch. We kept bongs in our cars, and we would clam-bake right in the parking lot..

Then I would go to my fifth hour class shop class.. Sometimes it was welding, sometimes it was woodshop, sometimes it was small engines.. I could have killed myself, or hurt someone else very very badly..

I can understand if the parents suspects something of course they should take them in to get tested. But sometimes they just have no idea... it's not that they are bad parents it's just something they didn't see happening. My youngest sister smoked pot and drank all the time and my mom had no idea. My other two sisters and I never did that but my youngest one did and my mom wouldn't have known till I found out and told her about it. If the schools tested the students as long as the parents agreed than my mom would have found out as soon as my sister did it and helped her as much as she could. BTW my sister is fine she pretty much got off of it on her own and doesn't do that crap anymore but not all kids do that.

I dont thnk they are bad parents either. I never did any of that but I have friends who get away with it all the time.

It still does not make it the school's problem. If it was me, I would be ticked off if I had to pass a drug test to stay in public school or complete a punishment. There are reasons for privacy laws and due process and the like, and while schools have some wiggle room, i dont think this is one of the areas in which they should have that space to take away rights.

I dont thnk they are bad parents either. I never did any of that but I have friends who get away with it all the time.

It still does not make it the school's problem. If it was me, I would be ticked off if I had to pass a drug test to stay in public school or complete a punishment. There are reasons for privacy laws and due process and the like, and while schools have some wiggle room, i dont think this is one of the areas in which they should have that space to take away rights.

Oh I agree I don't think it's the school's problem either but if the parents agree to it and the school doesn't mind then I can see it helping some kids. If I was in school and had to take a quick drug test it really wouldn't bother me because I'd have nothing to be afraid of... the main people it would bother would be the ones who are taking drugs and are afraid to get caught. I know it takes away some of their rights but you could also be saving some kids life.

As a parent, I wouldn't mind if they did random testing on the entire population. All I would ask, is that at the beginning of the school year, there was a consent form that needed to be acknowledged and signed by both parents and students.

If I was in school I would mind because even though I had nothing to worry about it was still treating me as if I was guilty of something. I would of hated the indignity of peeing in front of someone at that age. Hell I hated it in the Navy too but that was different I signed a contract. Just because someone is a minor should not mean they are not entitled to due process of the law and basic rights.

I agree I think they should all be tested. Most parents probably don't even know their kid is doing anything and this way is a good way to find out and help them. But don't let them know which day it will be or they might skip school. :giggle Either that or if they miss the day make them do it the next time they are in school. :yes
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I agree I think they should all be tested. Most parents probably don't even know their kid is doing anything and this way is a good way to find out and help them. But don't let them know which day it will be or they might skip school. :giggle Either that or if they miss the day make them do it the next time they are in school. :yes

I agree with this.

If I was in school I would mind because even though I had nothing to worry about it was still treating me as if I was guilty of something. I would of hated the indignity of peeing in front of someone at that age. Hell I hated it in the Navy too but that was different I signed a contract. Just because someone is a minor should not mean they are not entitled to due process of the law and basic rights.

This is the part I agree with. At that age, it's embarrassing enough being a gawky teenager with self esteem issues, but to have a stranger (professional drug tester or not) see you squatting in the position you have to squat in so that they can make sure you're not cheating the test... yeah, I wouldn't wish that on a teen.

Responsibility lies with the parents.

responsibility may lie with the parents but when these kids are stoned all day long and drive onto school property or do other things in school (like shop or something) they immediately become the schools issue. also the reason students have to consent to random locker searches is because they no longer have the same rights they have off school property. the school is supposed to protect the students. personally they did random drug testing on student-athletes in my school but many of the athletes weren't the ones using, it was the everyday student. my last year they implemented the testing to anyone who was in any school sanctioned activity (including national honor society)

Remembering back when I was in high school which was only 3 years ago, even the students who you think would never smoke pot or whatever, did! The most shocking thing was you would see some students out sitting in their cars rolling a joint. I feel if they are going to do it, do it to everyone. You can't just limit to one social group like athletes. I was in the marching band and there were students in that that did drugs. You just never know anymore so you rather be safe then sorry.

Thank god I'm not in school anymore.....it's getting crazy :nutts.

I would be JUST as happy if the drug testing was mandatory to attend school. Every tri/semester the parents can take the child to a lab and have it done at their own expense if they don't want the school to do it. I just don't want a bunch of druggies around MY kids in school. Why should they be allowed to attend public school if they are breaking the law? I sure as hell don't want my taxes paying for their education if they're just getting stoned in the parking lot or behind the buildings.

ETA: If MY kids were the ones on drugs, you can bet they would be getting sent to military school. I don't mess around with that kind of stuff, so they would be in just as much trouble as any other kid should be that was on drugs.

I don't see what the big deal about kids being tested in school to be able to attend.. hell even college... You want the benefit of using a PUBLIC schools system and money then pass some legislation that makes it where you HAVE to be drug tested to use the tax payers money to be able to attend school there. Monthly random drug testing that will eventually include the ENTIRE student body... nobody will know then their number will be called so it will encourage students to stay clean. I'd sign that form in a heartbeat as a parent. It really is the students you wouldn't expect as well that are the ones that are drinking and smoking i up.

The school holds responsibility to keep the kids safe when they are on school grounds during school hours... if those student go out and get high during lunch and then come inside and KILL themselves in a shop class or fall down the stairs because they are seeing double then it is the schools fault and who do you think the parent is going to sue.... it'll be "you should've been watching my child... blah blah blah.. you will pay for this..." in the end it'll cost the school more money to pay the lawsuit than to complete the drug screen on the student. Parents aren't paying attention so to say the parents need to be getting their students tested if they suspect is irresponsible... parents DON'T watch their kids like they used to.. that's what's wrong with our society so if the school system wants to clean it up if they can then I'm all for it!!!!

I don't see what the big deal about kids being tested in school to be able to attend.. hell even college... You want the benefit of using a PUBLIC schools system and money then pass some legislation that makes it where you HAVE to be drug tested to use the tax payers money to be able to attend school there.

Since when is tax money being used to provide anyone with a college education (not counting the GI Bill, Pell Grants, VA VOC/REHAB things of that nature) College is not a PUBLIC school colleges even state colleges are paid for (in most cases) by the student attending the school.

I am sorry it is yet another reason why I am glad my children are not going to a reg public school at a charter they have some leeway AND if it ever came down to it I would home school before I allow their rights to be taken away just based on what they might one day do.

YES before anyone asks I think marijuana should be legal. I don't feel it is a gateway drug nor do I feel it is addictive. I never smoked pot in high school, yet I most of my friends got stoned after school. I have smoked it since I was an adult but not since having children.

Since it is illegal it is not something I will encourage my children to do, just like I will not be encouraging them to drink as minors. I talk with my kids though. My oldest at four already knows how harmful cigarette smoking is. I believe in hands on parenting to the fullest extent, that means we are always communicating about the world and what goes on it.