hisjoker
07-03-2007, 03:46 PM
That post that harrison started got me thinking. what is everyones take on this. me bieng in an interracial relationship, i jsut wanted to see everyones take on it.
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View Full Version : Intterracial relationships hisjoker 07-03-2007, 03:46 PM That post that harrison started got me thinking. what is everyones take on this. me bieng in an interracial relationship, i jsut wanted to see everyones take on it. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 03:48 PM Honestly, I don't agree with it, but I am not going to shun you because of it or put you down or not be your friend. It's just not how I was raised that it's "OK". *Crystal* 07-03-2007, 03:48 PM I wouldnt do it, but to each thier own! Wicked 07-03-2007, 03:49 PM I think they are great. People worked very hard and sacrificed a lot so that we could get to the point we are in this country. I look forward to the day where we are all one race. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 03:49 PM i was raised the same way and now the love of my life is black. why do u think its not ok? hisjoker 07-03-2007, 03:50 PM I think they are great. People worked very hard and sacrificed a lot so that we could get to the point we are in this country. I look forward to the day where we are all one race. i think i love you Miss B Hav'n 07-03-2007, 03:50 PM I could care less - to me people in an interracial relationship are just another couple like any other. I think it is sad that ethnicity is still such an issue for some people. JudyB 07-03-2007, 03:51 PM It doesn't matter to me. I have plenty of really good friends and a few family members in interracial relationships and if they are happy then I am happy! Would I personally be in one?? Yea, if the one for me was someone from a different race, religion background then I wouldn't care who said what or who supported me or not inmansgirl06 07-03-2007, 03:52 PM Honestly, I don't agree with it, but I am not going to shun you because of it or put you down or not be your friend. It's just not how I was raised that it's "OK". I agree with this 100% Veronica 07-03-2007, 03:53 PM doesnt matter to me. Although, I'd never do it either. Green~Mammy 07-03-2007, 03:54 PM I don't think anything of it at all. I have dated all different shades of men. A persons skin color doesn't matter to me at all. I look at it this way I hope no one says to my kids I can't date you because you are Jewish. I was once turned down because I am not 100% white, I was told I had misrepresented myself by not saying I had indian blood in me. It really really hurt. Then I decided I would never want to be pals let alone date some one that felt like that. Sorry I am NAKing my thoughts are bouncing all over. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 03:55 PM i was raised the same way and now the love of my life is black. why do u think its not ok? I just don't. I am not going to lie, I just don't think it's appropriate to be in a relationship outside of your own ethnic group. MIKOSWIFEY 07-03-2007, 03:56 PM I just read an article that said that scientists have now found the gene that creates skin color. Why should 2 little pieces of DNA dictate who should and should not be in a relationship? It is actually scientifically equivalent to someone with brown eyes in a relationship with someone who has blue eyes. Should that be wrong? inmansgirl06 07-03-2007, 03:57 PM I just don't. I am not going to lie, I just don't think it's appropriate to be in a relationship outside of your own ethnic group. again I agree with this!! You're reading my mind! tifflovezyou 07-03-2007, 03:57 PM I wouldnt do it, but to each thier own! I wouldnt personally do it, but i couldnt agree more about to each their own! harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 03:57 PM That post that harrison started got me thinking. what is everyones take on this. me bieng in an interracial relationship, i jsut wanted to see everyones take on it. if you want an honest answer i don't understand it, i have friends that are in interracial relationships/marriages, etc but i don't understand it. if you want an elaborated, sugar coated answer: i think whatever floats your boat. ETA: i've dated men of different decents and there was just too much of an ethnic/culture gap that couldn't be gotten over hisjoker 07-03-2007, 03:58 PM I just don't. I am not going to lie, I just don't think it's appropriate to be in a relationship outside of your own ethnic group. i was just wondering, i have been called a disgrace to my race and a n* lover, my nieces and nephews have been called muts, i have lost some of my family of DB and i wouldn't change anything. my dad was once on me about DB and now he just adopted a black baby, Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 03:59 PM I honestly don't care. I've never dated outside of my race but it wasn't for any reason other than all of the people I was attracted to were white. Green~Mammy 07-03-2007, 03:59 PM for the no answers what will ou tell your kids if they like someone outside there race? Will they not be allowed to date that person? hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:00 PM for the no answers what will ou tell your kids if they like someone outside there race? Will they not be allowed to date that person? good question Jennifer 07-03-2007, 04:00 PM It's not for me, but whatever....who am I to judge you? Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:00 PM I don't understand how anyone can not agree with interracial relationships or think they are inappropriate... anyone care to elaborate WHY? cookie 07-03-2007, 04:01 PM It doesn't bother me. I don't think the color of someone's skin should matter, as long as you love each other. Armylove 07-03-2007, 04:01 PM i dont really care what people do, it dosent concern me. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:02 PM I don't understand how anyone can not agree with interracial relationships or think they are inappropriate... anyone care to elaborate WHY? i just don't understand it. :dunno i don't know how else to explain it. like i also stated in one of my posts: for me the ethnic/cultural gap was too much for the men i'd dated dollface 07-03-2007, 04:02 PM Race is irrelevant in my opinion. It has absolutley no significance in determining a person's character/morals/personality. I see no logic in considering a person race to identify their qualities as a partner/friend/etc. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:03 PM i was just wondering, i have been called a disgrace to my race and a n* lover, my nieces and nephews have been called muts, i have lost some of my family of DB and i wouldn't change anything. my dad was once on me about DB and now he just adopted a black baby, I don't think that it's a disgrace for you to be in love with a black guy, and I think it's wrong that your treated that way. I have a friend that is in a bi-racial marriage, they are both welcome in my home at any time. Her DH is one of the sweetest men I have ever met (he's black/she's white). I PERSONALLY don't agree with it for my reasons, but I don't care what you do with your life. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:03 PM I don't understand how anyone can not agree with interracial relationships or think they are inappropriate... anyone care to elaborate WHY? me either, its just skin color, and if you look at db and me. we are complete opposites, i have a little tan and he is black as night but other than that he is a human, i see it has he has a permanent tan Kmadden55 07-03-2007, 04:04 PM I think black guys are hot! More power to you girl! and to everyone who disagrees: i am sorry but this is the 21st century, if you can't accept different people from different ethnic backgrounds etc, than you are extremely ignorant. We are all human, we all share this world, and it's people like you who make it miserable for the rest of us. I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but it's true. You can't just go around judging people from the shade of their skin. I look at it this way; we are ALL HUMAN...soo...if you have A DOG as part of your family, now THAT's A different species. why is it okay to live or have a relationship with a different species, but not okay to live or have a relationship with someone of the same species and different color???? see..ignorance! THERE IS NO ROOM ON THIS PLANET FOR DISCRIMINATION :grphug hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:04 PM Race is irrelevant in my opinion. It has absolutley no significance in determining a person's character/morals/personality. I see no logic in considering a person race to identify their qualities as a partner/friend/etc. well said harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:04 PM I don't think that it's a disgrace for you to be in love with a black guy, and I think it's wrong that your treated that way. I have a friend that is in a bi-racial marriage, they are both welcome in my home at any time. Her DH is one of the sweetest men I have ever met (he's black/she's white). I PERSONALLY don't agree with it for my reasons, but I don't care what you do with your life. :yes i agree with that 100% hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:05 PM I think black guys are hot! And i am sorry but this is the 21st century, if you can't accept different people from different ethnic backgrounds etc, than you are extremely ignorant. We are all human, we all share this world, and it's people like you who make it miserable for the rest of us. I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but it's true. You can't just go around judging people from the shade of their skin. I look at it this way; we are ALL HUMAN...soo...if you have A DOG as part of your family, now THAT's A different species. why is it okay to live or have a relationship with a different species, but not okay to live or have a relationship with someone of the same species and different color???? see..ignorance! THERE IS NO ROOM ON THIS PLANET FOR DISCRIMINATION :grphug me bieng in an interracial relationship am not offended by anything anyone has said. no one is getting mean or anything about it. i dont want this to start drama. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:06 PM for the no answers what will ou tell your kids if they like someone outside there race? Will they not be allowed to date that person? Tell ya what...when the time comes for the girls to date I will answer this question, I think right now it's premature for me to say soemthing because I honestly think it's one of those things I will have to deal with when the time comes. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:06 PM I think black guys are hot! And i am sorry but this is the 21st century, if you can't accept different people from different ethnic backgrounds etc, than you are extremely ignorant. We are all human, we all share this world, and it's people like you who make it miserable for the rest of us. I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but it's true. You can't just go around judging people from the shade of their skin. I look at it this way; we are ALL HUMAN...soo...if you have A DOG as part of your family, now THAT's A different species. why is it okay to live or have a relationship with a different species, but not okay to live or have a relationship with someone of the same species and different color???? see..ignorance! THERE IS NO ROOM ON THIS PLANET FOR DISCRIMINATION :grphug i get along with people from different ethnic groups all the time, however for me IN MY EXPERIENCE the cultural/ethnic gap was too hard to branch in a romantic relationship Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:06 PM i just don't understand it. :dunno i don't know how else to explain it. like i also stated in one of my posts: for me the ethnic/cultural gap was too much for the men i'd dated What don't you understand about it though? How people can be attracted to someone who is a different race physically? How they can get past the cultural barriers? Social barriers? Is it a religious thing? Like how can people date outside their race when it is against a certain religion? Just wondering what is hard to understand about it. I don't understand how you can not understand I guess. LOL. So, I am trying to understand! Green~Mammy 07-03-2007, 04:08 PM Tell ya what...when the time comes for the girls to date I will answer this question, I think right now it's premature for me to say soemthing because I honestly think it's one of those things I will have to deal with when the time comes. I wasn't asking to be bitchy I really wanted to know. Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:08 PM I don't think that it's a disgrace for you to be in love with a black guy, and I think it's wrong that your treated that way. I have a friend that is in a bi-racial marriage, they are both welcome in my home at any time. Her DH is one of the sweetest men I have ever met (he's black/she's white). I PERSONALLY don't agree with it for my reasons, but I don't care what you do with your life. Can I ask what your reasons are?? Just wondering... Victoria 07-03-2007, 04:08 PM I'm in a interracial relationship! I'm Black, Filipino and Irish married to a white boy from PA. I'm shocked at some of these replies... JudyB 07-03-2007, 04:08 PM I think black guys are hot! More power to you girl! and to everyone who disagrees: i am sorry but this is the 21st century, if you can't accept different people from different ethnic backgrounds etc, than you are extremely ignorant. We are all human, we all share this world, and it's people like you who make it miserable for the rest of us. I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but it's true. You can't just go around judging people from the shade of their skin. I look at it this way; we are ALL HUMAN...soo...if you have A DOG as part of your family, now THAT's A different species. why is it okay to live or have a relationship with a different species, but not okay to live or have a relationship with someone of the same species and different color???? see..ignorance! THERE IS NO ROOM ON THIS PLANET FOR DISCRIMINATION :grphug I don't think one person has said the discriminate against anyone who is or agrees with interracial relatiosnhips. Just as no one said that they couldn't accept it...they just don't agree that it's the thing for them. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:10 PM in every relationship there are barriers to overcome, just because they are ur own ethinicity doesn't mean there aren't barriers to overcome or are u willing to overcome those because they are ur race? harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:10 PM What don't you understand about it though? How people can be attracted to someone who is a different race physically? How they can get past the cultural barriers? Social barriers? Is it a religious thing? Like how can people date outside their race when it is against a certain religion? Just wondering what is hard to understand about it. I don't understand how you can not understand I guess. LOL. So, I am trying to understand! for me in my experience the social and cultural barriers couldn't be branched. i have dated hispanic guys and on and off dated a black guy for about 6 months and it just wasn't working because we had so many different views on things. does it make me a horrible person or ignorant because i don't understand it or i wouldn't do it personally no i don't think so. i've tried it and it didn't work out kwim? ETA: i want to say thank you for being genuinely interested and not getting upset about it USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:10 PM I wasn't asking to be bitchy I really wanted to know. I know...I was just saying when the time comes I will be able to answer it. Right now I honestly can't. missinghim 07-03-2007, 04:11 PM I honestly could care less if someone is in an interracial relationship or not. One of best friends dated a girl from a different race for three years and I never even thought twice about it. I personally wouldn't....but that's only because I'm addicted to skinny white boys :giggle guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 04:12 PM I personally dont have anything against it. One of my best friends is in an interacial relationship and I love hanging out with her and her boyfriend. They are some of mine and db's best friends. I personally have never been in a bi-racial relationship just because I've always been more attracted to guys who just turned out to either be latin or white. lol. But in the end, it's really none of my business who you love. :D I edited cause i realized i used the word personally too much. lol JudyB 07-03-2007, 04:12 PM in every relationship there are barriers to overcome, just because they are ur own ethinicity doesn't mean there aren't barriers to overcome or are u willing to overcome those because they are ur race? I am sure that for most who have had these types of relationships that failed that it was much more than a cultural gap....there has to be something there to begin with before you can work to overcome differences whether it be ethinic or life in general...kwim USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:12 PM Can I ask what your reasons are?? Just wondering... No..because my families past is not a can of worms I care to open on the internet. Sorry. It's just my feelings and how I was raised. Green~Mammy 07-03-2007, 04:12 PM I know...I was just saying when the time comes I will be able to answer it. Right now I honestly can't. Oh ok I read your tone wrong :D hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:13 PM I honestly could care less if someone is in an interracial relationship or not. One of best friends dated a girl from a different race for three years and I never even thought twice about it. I personally wouldn't....but that's only because I'm addicted to skinny white boys :giggle lol, i am addicted to big black men, lol. Kmadden55 07-03-2007, 04:13 PM :peace sorry ladies, extremely touchy subject for me. i didnt mean to get all huffy like that lol :goodvibes USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:14 PM Oh ok I read your tone wrong :D It's ok! :grin: Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:15 PM for me in my experience the social and cultural barriers couldn't be branched. i have dated hispanic guys and on and off dated a black guy for about 6 months and it just wasn't working because we had so many different views on things. does it make me a horrible person or ignorant because i don't understand it or i wouldn't do it personally no i don't think so. i've tried it and it didn't work out kwim? ETA: i want to say thank you for being genuinely interested and not getting upset about it No problem. I can understand where you are coming from. I just think it has a lot to do with where and how you were raised whether or not you are equipped or prepared to deal with the cultural barriers that can come up. The only time I have a problem with people being against interracial relationships is when they think that people should stick to their own race because one is better than the other or when people who think that EVERYONE should stick to their own race instead of just thinking it isn't right for THEM but they don't care if anyone else does it. KWIM? Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:16 PM No..because my families past is not a can of worms I care to open on the internet. Sorry. It's just my feelings and how I was raised. Hmmm, okay! No biggie! Veronica 07-03-2007, 04:16 PM my daughter can date whomever she wants. Now, her daddy might not feel the same way, but hopefully when the time comes, he wont be so hard headed. I mean my mom dates black men. but thats a whole other story. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:16 PM in every relationship there are barriers to overcome, just because they are ur own ethinicity doesn't mean there aren't barriers to overcome or are u willing to overcome those because they are ur race? for us it was very different cultural styles that led to us falling apart. sure there were other things but it all got stemmed from we couldn't get past the fundamental differences kwim? yeah there are barriers in every relationship but i do think that it is easier in some respects if you are coming from the same place, the same heritage and you can understand what the other is going through. i'm not going into details about what exactly was wrong for each of my several relationships but it didn't work for us. *~*Cori*~* 07-03-2007, 04:17 PM I don't have any issues with interacial relationships. Be with who makes you happy. Love is colorblind. (L) USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:17 PM No problem. I can understand where you are coming from. I just think it has a lot to do with where and how you were raised whether or not you are equipped or prepared to deal with the cultural barriers that can come up. The only time I have a problem with people being against interracial relationships is when they think that people should stick to their own race because one is better than the other or when people who think that EVERYONE should stick to their own race instead of just thinking it isn't right for THEM but they don't care if anyone else does it. KWIM? I don't think anyone is saying they should stick to their own race, I am reading the responses as it's not something they would do or agree with but don't care what someone else does. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:17 PM :peace sorry ladies, extremely touchy subject for me. i didnt mean to get all huffy like that lol :goodvibes its ok, its a touchy subject for me but i just wanted to know everyones take on it. i am biting my tongue over here. after as many names as i have been called as well as db, it makes it touchy. half of my family was not going to be able to come to mine and db's wedding when we were engaged, so its just unreal that is 07 and people still think like this. (no offense to anyone) jlbecker 07-03-2007, 04:17 PM i have done it before. it was really hard to get past alot of cultural differences...i guess we never did since it didn't work out. i can say i learned ALOT. i caught hell from my parents, that was the worst. i think, if it works for you, it's perfectly a-ok. :thumbsup harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:18 PM No problem. I can understand where you are coming from. I just think it has a lot to do with where and how you were raised whether or not you are equipped or prepared to deal with the cultural barriers that can come up. The only time I have a problem with people being against interracial relationships is when they think that people should stick to their own race because one is better than the other or when people who think that EVERYONE should stick to their own race instead of just thinking it isn't right for THEM but they don't care if anyone else does it. KWIM? oh i absolutely believe that if someone wants to date a black man and they are hispanic or a arab man and they are white go for it. it doesn't matter to me but i don't understand it from my p.o.v. i had tried on several occassions and made the attempt to get to know the cultures and understand the differences but the reciprocation wasn't there. MichelleB 07-03-2007, 04:18 PM To each their own. I have nothing against it. I dated a black guy in high school pretty seriously. His mom was white and his dad was black. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:19 PM for us it was very different cultural styles that led to us falling apart. sure there were other things but it all got stemmed from we couldn't get past the fundamental differences kwim? yeah there are barriers in every relationship but i do think that it is easier in some respects if you are coming from the same place, the same heritage and you can understand what the other is going through. i'm not going into details about what exactly was wrong for each of my several relationships but it didn't work for us. i am really shocked by some of the things you have been saying in this post and the one u started. i am starting to look at you different. *~*Cori*~* 07-03-2007, 04:19 PM Most of my Mom's family would have issues with it being the old "southerners" they are, but I didn't care what they thought when I dated a Hispanic guy and wouldn't care what they thought had I brought home of any other race. I am me, I didn't change who I was cause I dated someone different. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:21 PM i am really shocked by some of the things you have been saying in this post and the one u started. i am starting to look at you different. what have i said that was racist or anything of that sort. i have said repeatedly that it didn't work out FOR ME does that make me a bigot or a racist fine whatever. but excuse i'm not the only one saying that an interracial relationship isn't for me. and as to my other thread don't you dare sit there and say you have never ever made a snap judgement on someone for whatever reason. it is a naturally occurring phenomena argue all you want with me on it but i hope you say something to all the others that posted their initial reactions too. Donna 07-03-2007, 04:22 PM it's not for me. but i have no issues with it. my mom is korean and my stepdad is black. Armylove 07-03-2007, 04:22 PM i dont even understand why this is a thread. why does anyone care if someone on here agreesor disagrees with who you date, or love. Just seems like this is just going to start more drama MIKOSWIFEY 07-03-2007, 04:23 PM I think a LOT of this has to do with where people are from. Where I grew up in CA, no one would give a biracial couple even a second glance. I never noticed a difference between "races" until I moved down here to the south and the different ethnic groups (as a majority, because there are always exceptions!) actually ACT different on a regular basis. That was a HUGE culture shock to me! In CA, everyone is just a californian, and you judge people on how they DRESS or ACT rather than their skin tone. Here, everyone seems to judge based on skin tone, no matter how someone acts or dresses. I will say, though, that there is a difference in how the majority of black vs. white vs. hispanic people act here. I think it is because or how they were raised and how they have been treated by everyone else. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:23 PM i dont even understand why this is a thread. why does anyone care if someone on here agreesor disagrees with who you date, or love. Just seems like this is just going to start more drama :agree hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:24 PM what have i said that was racist or anything of that sort. i have said repeatedly that it didn't work out FOR ME does that make me a bigot or a racist fine whatever. but excuse i'm not the only one saying that an interracial relationship isn't for me. and as to my other thread don't you dare sit there and say you have never ever made a snap judgement on someone for whatever reason. it is a naturally occurring phenomena argue all you want with me on it but i hope you say something to all the others that posted their initial reactions too. actually when you have been called the names that i have been called and such you dont make snap judgements. i didn't say you were the only one that said it but you are the only one shocking me with thier comments. Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:25 PM I don't think anyone is saying they should stick to their own race, I am reading the responses as it's not something they would do or agree with but don't care what someone else does. I wasn't accusing anyone of implying that, just saying that for me personally I think it is wrong for people to be against interracial relationships for those reasons. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:26 PM what have i said that was racist or anything of that sort. i have said repeatedly that it didn't work out FOR ME does that make me a bigot or a racist fine whatever. but excuse i'm not the only one saying that an interracial relationship isn't for me. and as to my other thread don't you dare sit there and say you have never ever made a snap judgement on someone for whatever reason. it is a naturally occurring phenomena argue all you want with me on it but i hope you say something to all the others that posted their initial reactions too. I have to agree with you...you have not been the only one and I don't find anything racist about your comments. If you did not want to hear HONEST opinons, maybe you should not have opended the thread to begin with. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:26 PM actually when you have been called the names that i have been called and such you dont make snap judgements. i didn't say you were the only one that said it but you are the only one shocking me with thier comments. what comments did i particularly shock you with? you are saying you have never thought anything about anyone without knowing them...EVER!! it doesn't even have to be about race, it could be age, someone doing drugs, someone smoking, etc etc kwim? harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:26 PM I have to agree with you...you have not been the only one and I don't find anything racist about your comments. If you did not want to hear HONEST opinons, maybe you should not have opended the thread to begin with. thank you. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:27 PM i dont even understand why this is a thread. why does anyone care if someone on here agreesor disagrees with who you date, or love. Just seems like this is just going to start more drama like i stated, the judgement thread got me thinking. this is a debate forum, for debates such as this one. every debate is not meant for drama, but just a debate, a healthy debate of views. that is all, lets not make it more USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:28 PM I wasn't accusing anyone of implying that, just saying that for me personally I think it is wrong for people to be against interracial relationships for those reasons. I did not think you were accusing....actually it's been a pretty peaceful debate. :D (ok,ok...so far!) Veronica 07-03-2007, 04:28 PM actually when you have been called the names that i have been called and such you dont make snap judgements. i didn't say you were the only one that said it but you are the only one shocking me with thier comments. I'm sure most of us have been called horrible things in our lives. I think you just need to get thicker skin. Its for you. thats wonderful. :) but its just not for everyone. JudyB 07-03-2007, 04:29 PM actually when you have been called the names that i have been called and such you dont make snap judgements. i didn't say you were the only one that said it but you are the only one shocking me with thier comments. Everyone ahs been raised differently, treated differently and views things differently....does not make them a bad person at all, snap judgements or not. The best thing about us all is that we are all different in one way or another and can learn from each other. And trust me, people who have been called bad things or have had bad things happen to them still make snap judgements....not saying that you do, just saying it happens! Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:30 PM i dont even understand why this is a thread. why does anyone care if someone on here agreesor disagrees with who you date, or love. Just seems like this is just going to start more drama We are all grown ups and this is a big issue in our country. I don't think there is anything wrong with discussing it. It is part of a bigger issue of race and discrimination, and we have only had equal rights for different races in this country for less than 50 years. Compared to most of the industrialized world, we are in our infancy when it comes to civil rights and how much the issue of race still effects society here. I hope everyone can keep it civil... :tu Wicked 07-03-2007, 04:30 PM I did not think you were accusing....actually it's been a pretty peaceful debate. :D (ok,ok...so far!) I have faith it can stay that way! Or at least, I have HOPE! hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:32 PM I have to agree with you...you have not been the only one and I don't find anything racist about your comments. If you did not want to hear HONEST opinons, maybe you should not have opended the thread to begin with. no its fine for everyone to have thier opinions, i am have seen a lot of views in a very short time what comments did i particularly shock you with? you are saying you have never thought anything about anyone without knowing them...EVER!! it doesn't even have to be about race, it could be age, someone doing drugs, someone smoking, etc etc kwim? chill, i am not calling you racist, that didn't come out of my mouth, and i dont think your racist, i just dont understand some of the things your have said. about the whole cutural views bieng so different and other things abuot coming from the same place and heritage. I'm sure most of us have been called horrible things in our lives. I think you just need to get thicker skin. Its for you. thats wonderful. :) but its just not for everyone. i know that, i have thick skin as far as my man goes. if i didn't do u think we would still be together after 5 years. him being the man in the community he has become most people dont say anything anymore. i didnt say people needed to have the same views as me, i was wondering why people didn't agree, that is all so please chill out and dont tell me what i need to do thanks USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:38 PM chill, i am not calling you racist, that didn't come out of my mouth, and i dont think your racist, i just dont understand some of the things your have said. about the whole cutural views bieng so different and other things abuot coming from the same place and heritage. Cultural views are based A LOT on where you were raised. I was raised in the DEEP South. (Beaufort S.C.) My views and someone elses cultural views are going to be completely different than say someone from California where things are more "open". In the time I have been married to DH I have been exposed to MANY different people and cultures, that does not mean I have to change my values from when I was raised, but it has made me more open to other peoples ideals. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:39 PM no its fine for everyone to have thier opinions, i am have seen a lot of views in a very short time chill, i am not calling you racist, that didn't come out of my mouth, and i dont think your racist, i just dont understand some of the things your have said. about the whole cutural views bieng so different and other things abuot coming from the same place and heritage. i don't like it being implied that i'm a racist, and honestly that's where i thought that's where it was going. in MY experience the cultural gap and views with my hispanic boyfriends in the past were a point that he didn't want to compromise on, i tried, i learned the most i could i about his heritage and culture but he didn't want to reciprocate. that led to more problems. i think if you are very strong in your irish or greek or whatever heritage having someone who isn't from there can make it super difficult. guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 04:40 PM Cultural views are based A LOT on where you were raised. I was raised in the DEEP South. (Beaufort S.C.) My views and someone elses cultural views are going to be completely different than say someone from California where things are more "open". In the time I have been married to DH I have been exposed to MANY different people and cultures, that does not mean I have to change my values from when I was raised, but it has made me more open to other peoples ideals. This is true. Being from the south, like I am, is going to have a big impact on being from another place that's more open minded. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:41 PM Cultural views are based A LOT on where you were raised. I was raised in the DEEP South. (Beaufort S.C.) My views and someone elses cultural views are going to be completely different than say someone from California where things are more "open". In the time I have been married to DH I have been exposed to MANY different people and cultures, that does not mean I have to change my values from when I was raised, but it has made me more open to other peoples ideals. i am sc too, dirty south, country the hill of ten, and georgia and sc. my family raised me not to date outside of my race, i just think is 07 we need to become more open and it seems harrison is against anything that is "outside fo the box" that is my whole point. nothing against her just wondering why that is. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:43 PM i don't like it being implied that i'm a racist, and honestly that's where i thought that's where it was going. in MY experience the cultural gap and views with my hispanic boyfriends in the past were a point that he didn't want to compromise on, i tried, i learned the most i could i about his heritage and culture but he didn't want to reciprocate. that led to more problems. i think if you are very strong in your irish or greek or whatever heritage having someone who isn't from there can make it super difficult. i am sorry you felt that it was going that way cause it wasn't. you said nothing racist. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:43 PM i am sc too, dirty south, country the hill of ten, and georgia and sc. my family raised me not to date outside of my race, i just think is 07 we need to become more open and it seems harrison is against anything that is "outside fo the box" that is my whole point. nothing against her just wondering why that is. :nutts i'm not the only one who said the things i said i don't understand why what I said is pissing you off so much. i'm a traditionalist, conservative, that's how i was raised ;) mamaofbeaniebaby 07-03-2007, 04:43 PM I've dated outside my race, I didn't think of it as interracial dating. I just saw it as dating. I don't see the big deal at all. I find it nausiating how anyone can have a problem with two people loving each other just because they are not the same race.:dunno BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 04:45 PM I just don't. I am not going to lie, I just don't think it's appropriate to be in a relationship outside of your own ethnic group. :wha Do you have a pulse? APPROPRIATE..ummm do you think there is a white heaven, a black heaven, asian heaven or hell That's like me saying I don't think it's APPROPRIATE for white people to tan, change their skintone to become darker... THAT RESPONSE IS IGNORANT in my opinion......OMG TIME JUST STOOD STILL FOR A MOMENT... lemme leave you alone before I say something i'll regret :D USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:45 PM I don't think Harrison is against anything that is "outside of the box" she has had interracial relationships in the past...that is most certainly "outside the box". I just think her views and ideals may be the extreme opposite of yours. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:45 PM :nutts i'm not the only one who said the things i said i don't understand why what I said is pissing you off so much. i'm a traditionalist, conservative, that's how i was raised ;) ur not pissing me off, so i dont piss you off i will make this statement. THERE SEEMS TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE BOX FROM THE JUDGEMENT, THIS THREAD, AND THE HOMOSEXUAL ONE. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:47 PM :wha Do you have a pulse? APPROPRIATE..ummm do you think there is a white heaven, a black heaven, asian heaven or hell That's like me saying I don't think it's APPROPRIATE for white people to tan, change their skintone to become darker... THAT RESPONSE IS IGNORANT in my opinion......OMG TIME JUST STOOD STILL FOR A MOMENT... lemme leave you alone before I say something i'll regret :D I am far from ignorant...maybe you should continue reading. Also..I don't believe in heaven or hell...but that is a different debate. :P MichelleB 07-03-2007, 04:47 PM THERE SEEMS TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE BOX FROM THE JUDGEMENT, THIS THREAD, AND THE HOMOSEXUAL ONE. Well, when it comes to subjects like this, everyone isn't going to see eye to eye and you should have expected that when you started the thread. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:48 PM I don't think Harrison is against anything that is "outside of the box" she has had interracial relationships in the past...that is most certainly "outside the box". I just think her views and ideals may be the extreme opposite of yours. thank you. that said it so much better than i could've ur not pissing me off, so i dont piss you off i will make this statement. THERE SEEMS TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE BOX FROM THE JUDGEMENT, THIS THREAD, AND THE HOMOSEXUAL ONE. my views are opposite of yours, is that a bad thing? nope. that's what makes a free country so great, i can disagree with you till we are both blue in the face ;) BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 04:48 PM ETA: i've dated men of different decents and there was just too much of an ethnic/culture gap that couldn't be gotten over COULDN'T BE GOTTEN OVER... Say what LOL Brandi 07-03-2007, 04:49 PM I was raised in the bible belt, where it's not at all acceptable, end of story. My dad's side of the family would have SHIT if I would have married into another race. :faint My mom's side is much more understanding and open about it, but they actually didn't used to be. My grandfather used to have very strong opinions about how wrong it was, but he's really come around over the last several years. I don't know how he would feel if I married outside of our race, but I think he would come around eventually, which is a lot more than what I could have said several years ago. I have been in a relationship with someone who was Puerto Rican. He did act differently than most white men I've ever come across but I think he was actually MORE respectful to people and especially women and a better person than most white men I ever crossed paths with. He treated his mom with the utmost respect, he treated me with the utmost respect, and had I wanted to marry him I do think my family would have eventually come around to it. I didn't used to think so but the more I talk with my grandfather (who was my biggest concern, as far as acceptance), the more I think he would have been okay with it. I think it definitely boils down to how you were raised and WHERE you were raised. In the south (in most places), dating outside your race is a big deal and not widely accepted like it would be in other areas. It's one of those things that will probably be more accepted one day but it's kind of like religon- you can't really beat people up because they have certain beliefs about it one way or the other. It's personal beliefs that were ingrained by family and the culture where they were raised, or based on personal experience. I'm okay with it. If my kids wanted to date someone from another race, I could care less. I'm not 100% sure how Jason would feel about it, ONLY because I think he'd worry what HIS family would think about it (his family is deep south). But as far as his personal feelings on it, I think he's on the same page that I am- we just really don't care who they fall in love with, as long as they are happy and being treated well. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 04:49 PM COULDN'T BE GOTTEN OVER... Say what LOL i've explained several times in other posts in this thread why i said that. there were things that we couldn't get over in OUR RELATIONSHIP. IT WAS OURS, OUR EXPERIENCE. BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 04:50 PM for the no answers what will ou tell your kids if they like someone outside there race? Will they not be allowed to date that person? Umm im guessing to say stay ignorant cause i am..I said it..yes i did too :handup hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:50 PM i want people to have different views, gah, come one now, it just seemed like some people were being closed minded. OMG, THAT IS A DIFFERENT VIEW 360Sweetie 07-03-2007, 04:50 PM I just don't. I am not going to lie, I just don't think it's appropriate to be in a relationship outside of your own ethnic group. this si the only statement that really upsets me. How dare someone say something like that is inappropriate. I would be okay if you said you just wouldnt do it but you didnt. I really dont care about how you were raised.I was raised by two black parents from Mississippi and they accept me having a white boyfriend because he hasnt done anything so show that its not appropriate.He grew up in an Italian family in Rhode Island which definately has no diversity. He family accepted me too.We are all learning from our differences.Sorry if I have typos in this post..im holding my nephew who is black and mexican in my lap.My brother and his girlfriend have both religious and cultural difference but they have worked through those differences and my nephew will know both of his cultures.I know alot of people would never make it in an interracial relationship because they care too much about what others think but you cant help who you fall in love with.You might be passing up the one for you if you just look at skin color and go by what others tell you.Theres my 2 cents hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:51 PM ok, we need to chill, its getting out of hand BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 04:51 PM I don't understand how anyone can not agree with interracial relationships or think they are inappropriate... anyone care to elaborate WHY? Ignorance is taught as ignorance is..Like a damn box of chocolates... Rita Gump guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 04:51 PM I am far from ignorant...maybe you should continue reading. Also..I don't believe in heaven or hell...but that is a different debate. :P i loved this post. :D USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 04:52 PM Hey BZZZWIFE...why don't you continue to read through the other posts before you quote things that have been already hashed out? hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:52 PM this si the only statement that really upsets me. How dare someone say something like that is inappropriate. I would be okay if you said you just wouldnt do it but you didnt. I really dont care about how you were raised.I was raised by two black parents from Mississippi and they accept me having a white boyfriend because he hasnt done anything so show that its not appropriate.He grew up in an Italian family in Rhode Island which definately has no diversity. He family accepted me too.We are all learning from our differences.Sorry if I have typos in this post..im holding my nephew who is black and mexican in my lap.My brother and his girlfriend have both religious and cultural difference but they have worked through those differences and my nephew will know both of his cultures.I know alot of people would never make it in an interracial relationship because they care too much about what others think but you cant help who you fall in love with.You might be passing up the one for you if you just look at skin color and go by what others tell you.Theres my 2 cents i like most of ur 2 cents JudyB 07-03-2007, 04:53 PM i want people to have different views, gah, come one now, it just seemed like some people were being closed minded. OMG, THAT IS A DIFFERENT VIEW It's not being close minded to believe in what you believe..... hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:53 PM Ignorance is taught as ignorance is..Like a damn box of chocolates... Rita Gump not always cause i was taught that it wasn't acceptable and i have never "been" with a white man and i have dated a white guy in like 8 years. hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:54 PM It's not being close minded to believe in what you believe..... yes it is JudyB 07-03-2007, 04:55 PM yes it is your opinion!!! I know I have beliefs and that doesn't make me close minded hisjoker 07-03-2007, 04:58 PM your beliefs period no but stuff like homosexualism and biracial relationships are unacceptable do make you close minded. as well as every guy with baggy clothes on is giong to rape or steal from you is. I am leaving work i will get back on when i get home. BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:00 PM I'm in a interracial relationship! I'm Black, Filipino and Irish married to a white boy from PA. I'm shocked at some of these replies... Don't sweat their ignorance...You have the best of all worlds.....:bringit MIKOSWIFEY 07-03-2007, 05:01 PM Ignorance is taught as ignorance is..Like a damn box of chocolates... Rita Gump I'm sorry, but I have to remind you that YOU are the ignorant bigot that actually called a man a "fudgepacker" multiple times and several other offensive things in the "Pillow Talk" thread simply because he was looking at items on the baby care aisle in the Commisary. Who is ignorant for something again? :thinking Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 05:01 PM Everyone KNOWS that everyone has thier own opinions... why even make this F'ing thread if you're gonna get all butt hurt when people don't agree with you? MichelleB 07-03-2007, 05:02 PM Everyone KNOWS that everyone has thier own opinions... why even make this F'ing thread if you're gonna get all butt hurt when peple don't agree with you? :tu JudyB 07-03-2007, 05:03 PM your beliefs period no but stuff like homosexualism and biracial relationships are unacceptable do make you close minded. as well as every guy with baggy clothes on is giong to rape or steal from you is. I am leaving work i will get back on when i get home. just because someone doesn't agree with something does not make them closed minded....it's their beliefs period!!! and the last statement was rather ignorant IMO, did anyone ver stop to think that someone could have been raped or mugged by someone dressed like that?? Does that make them closed minded to jump to the conclusion that is the person who would do it?? Does being human and thinking that they could do that mean you are closed minded??? NOPE!! BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:04 PM No..because my families past is not a can of worms I care to open on the internet. Sorry. It's just my feelings and how I was raised. A way of raising doesn't make it right....Did they or do they have alot of white sheets???? Just a question...Not implying. They did a number on you then to raise you to think that a shade of flesh shouldn't be with another shade of flesh.......... :yes define 07-03-2007, 05:05 PM I'm in a interracial relationship!'m Black, Filipino and Irish married to a white boy from PA. I'm shocked at some of these replies... Same here, plus some. I'm married to a white boy from OH.. cam45 07-03-2007, 05:07 PM I have an open mind and certainly don't judge others who are in an interracial relationship, if that is what makes them happy then great! I don't really see "colors" a good person is a good person to me. However, from my own experiences it wasn't so much the race or culture of the guy that was the deal breaker, but rather the differences in the way we were raised, our backgrounds, and beliefs on things were just too different if that makes sense. It just wouldn't work for me personally. Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 05:07 PM Just being curious as to what other people think is one thing but to ask and then get all pissed off and start calling people racist.. biggots ect.. is just asinine. Each and every one of us have the right to feel the way we do about it either way. This thread is not going to change anyones mind and all it is going to do is make for hurt feelings. We all have different life experiences and different views. Why can't people just state their views and let it be. I am so sick of race crap already, I really am. Armylove 07-03-2007, 05:07 PM Everyone KNOWS that everyone has thier own opinions... why even make this F'ing thread if you're gonna get all butt hurt when people don't agree with you? Thank you! MichelleB 07-03-2007, 05:08 PM :wow Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the mean things that are starting to get thrown around are uncalled for! Armylove 07-03-2007, 05:08 PM Just being curious as to what other people think is one thing but to ask and then get all pissed off and start calling people racist.. biggots ect.. is just asinine. Each and every one of us have the right to feel the way we do about it either way. This thread is not going to change anyone mind and all it is going to do is make for hurt feelings. We all have different life experiences and different views. Why can't people just state their views and let it be. I am so sick of race crap already, I really am. I love you. Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 05:08 PM :wow Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the mean things that are starting to be thrown around are uncalled for! I agree guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 05:09 PM Just being curious as to what other people think is one thing but to ask and then get all pissed off and start calling people racist.. biggots ect.. is just asinine. Each and every one of us have the right to feel the way we do about it either way. This thread is not going to change anyone mind and all it is going to do is make for hurt feelings. We all have different life experiences and different views. Why can't people just state their views and let it be. I am so sick of race crap already, I really am. Well said hun. Lilithdrff 07-03-2007, 05:09 PM People are people, and honestly I couldn't care less whom dates whom> I'm Mexican, my husband is American, there's not much of a difference in skintones, nor would I care if there was. My brother has dated all kinds of girls, and I say more power to them. Diversity is a beautiful thing. I was raised with the notion that you shouldn't date outside your race...honestly I've never dated a Mexican or Hispanic man. I've always dated "white guys", and I dated a Korean. *shrug* my family doesn't shun me, they love me, my husband, and my mutty kids all the same. BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:11 PM I am far from ignorant...maybe you should continue reading. Also..I don't believe in heaven or hell...but that is a different debate. :P That is half your problem now.... USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 05:13 PM A way of raising doesn't make it right....Did they or do they have alot of white sheets???? Just a question...Not implying. They did a number on you then to raise you to think that a shade of flesh shouldn't be with another shade of flesh.......... :yes BITE ME BITCH How dare you fucking come on here and IMPLY anything about my family. Nice way to make it personal. :handup guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 05:14 PM That is half your problem now.... Wow.. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 05:16 PM That is half your problem now.... My problem right now is I am being quoted by a psyco bitch like you who gets her jollies ripping apart my posts on this thread. Ya know what...if your getting off on it...knock yourself out. usmc_wifey85 07-03-2007, 05:18 PM There are soo many people in here that arent just white or asian, or black everyone is mixed I honestly have not met anyone who was "just" english they were always mixed with french or irish, w/e but as long as they're white its okay? And the same with everyone else, my dad is "white" (french, irish,english, and scottish) my mom is asian(filipino, japanese) and I guess you can call me a mutt and Im damn proud of it too and my hubby is "white" (german and scottish) I dont think you can control who you fall in love with. I know this is all a big jumble of things but I've got so much going through my head from this post lol, so if Im confusing you im sorry haha BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:18 PM I'm sorry, but I have to remind you that YOU are the ignorant bigot that actually called a man a "fudgepacker" multiple times and several other offensive things in the "Pillow Talk" thread simply because he was looking at items on the baby care aisle in the Commisary. Who is ignorant for something again? :thinking He was gay..His lover came over to him and gave him a kiss in the mouth...If men have anal sex then it's packing weenie....Put me on ignore please lol USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 05:20 PM ....Put me on ignore please lol PLEASE follow your own advice! BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:21 PM BITE ME BITCH How dare you fucking come on here and IMPLY anything about my family. Nice way to make it personal. :handup :giggle You calling me that doesn't bother me :lmao aubrey 07-03-2007, 05:22 PM I've dated interracially, and I don't see a problem with it at all. Color doesn't matter to me. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 05:22 PM :giggle You calling me that doesn't bother me :lmao that was out of line. you implied her family were terrorists and members of the kkk. what the hell was that about. how else was she supposed to take that post guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 05:23 PM that was out of line. you implied her family were terrorists and members of the kkk. what the hell was that about. how else was she supposed to take that post seriously. you took that way too far. MIKOSWIFEY 07-03-2007, 05:23 PM Bzzzwife, even if he was gay that is no reason to say those sorts of things about anyone, and then you have the audacity to call other people who are even MORE respectful ignorant just because they say that something is not for them. There was no namecalling before YOU crawled out of your hole. Wicked 07-03-2007, 05:25 PM It's not being close minded to believe in what you believe..... Well, the definition of closed minded is... "having a mind firmly unreceptive to new ideas or arguments:" Not that I am calling you closed minded (I have no idea if you are or not!), just saying that when you are firm in your beliefs and nothing can change them, that is the definition of closed minded. That is half your problem now.... WOAH. That is NOT RIGHT. So much for this staying civil, huh BoxerMom? LOL. I think we set our hopes a little high. Haha. ~rain~ 07-03-2007, 05:26 PM Im a biracial child and some of the things in this thread did hurt to read. I guess in a sense i married into my own race since my husband is also black and white but I married who I loved and Ive dated almost every race. Carrie 07-03-2007, 05:26 PM :popcorn BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:27 PM that was out of line. you implied her family were terrorists and members of the kkk. what the hell was that about. how else was she supposed to take that post umm where did you read me calling her family anything..and i sure as hell didn't call them terror anything...that was a joke...guess it was way over the top for a few... BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:28 PM :popcorn Don't eat it all :hystericlaugh guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 05:29 PM Even if it was meant as a joke, that was extremely out of line. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 05:29 PM umm where did you read me calling her family anything..and i sure as hell didn't call them terror anything...that was a joke...guess it was way over the top for a few... umm i'm not the only one that took offense to that and you said other offensive things to her. plus the does "your family own a bunch of white sheets" seems to imply kkk to me as well as others. and the definition of a terrorist is: ter·ror·ist /ˈtɛrərɪst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ter-er-ist] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism. 2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others. 3. (formerly) a member of a political group in Russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror. 4. an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France. –adjective 5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of terrorism or terrorists: terrorist tactics. the bolded definition, definition 2 is exactly what the kkk does, they use terror to influence and frighten others Wicked 07-03-2007, 05:30 PM umm where did you read me calling her family anything..and i sure as hell didn't call them terror anything...that was a joke...guess it was way over the top for a few... You are surprised that joking around about someone's family being KKK or a terrorist to them might possibly hurt their feelings or be a bit inappropriate? C'mon now... :no MichelleB 07-03-2007, 05:30 PM You asked if her family had a bunch of white sheets...and you thought everyone would laugh about that? Your comments are rude and speak for themselves! BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:30 PM I guess instant messengers and pm's are blowing up right about now.... Cause I can hear echo's :roflmao USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 05:31 PM Yeah Carrie..don't eat it all throw some back under BZZZWIFE's rock so she will slither away. VinnysGirl 07-03-2007, 05:32 PM A way of raising doesn't make it right....Did they or do they have alot of white sheets???? Just a question...Not implying. They did a number on you then to raise you to think that a shade of flesh shouldn't be with another shade of flesh.......... :yes In defense of what she said... her family raised her the way she was raised.... that doesn't make her opinion wrong. I am in the same position she's in. I have no problem with other races, but my personal preference and opinion is that I wouldn't marry or be with another race. Does that make me racist or evil or wrong in some way NO! And for you to imply that her family has white sheets is racist in your own way! BzzzWife 07-03-2007, 05:34 PM OMG I'll be the adult and apologize...Boxer if you were offended by my joke then im truly sorry. If anyone else was offended by my joke then please accept my sincere apology....but let the record show if you ever make a joke that is offensive i'll overlook it and accept your apology as well.... Would you like for me to put myself on SOS probation for awhile???? Cause I will. USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 05:35 PM I guess instant messengers and pm's are blowing up right about now.... Cause I can hear echo's :roflmao You really think fairly highly of yourself if you think I have to fight my battles in a PM. These ladies are responding purely on their own...sorry to dissapoint you. Ste9 07-03-2007, 05:38 PM I think you can all look at the picture in my signature and draw your own conclusion to my opinion on this topic :giggle for me in my experience the social and cultural barriers couldn't be branched. i have dated hispanic guys and on and off dated a black guy for about 6 months and it just wasn't working because we had so many different views on things. does it make me a horrible person or ignorant because i don't understand it or i wouldn't do it personally no i don't think so. i've tried it and it didn't work out kwim? ETA: i want to say thank you for being genuinely interested and not getting upset about it Do you think it was their "race" that caused this or just the difference in the social/cultural aspect? I know that there are people who are white who have grown up in different social settings that I couldn't date or marry. There are white people who live in different cultural settings that I don't think I could love with either. Has nothing to do with their lifestyle being right or wrong, just different, and therefore not something that I would be attracted to even if they were the same race. I know personally I dated many "white boys" and never could see myself in a long term relationship with them. I also dated several hispanics and other black men who I couldn't see myself in a long term relationship with either. It had nothing to do with the color of their skin or mine. Just wasn't the right fit. My DH and I are different colors but he completes me better than anyone else I have ever dated. I don't think it is because his skin is black either. I think we were meant to be together. Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 05:40 PM That is half your problem now.... hooooold on... saying "half her problem" is the fact that she doesn't believe in heaven or hell is pretty low and uncalled for along with a few other things you have said. I'm not religious and I'll be damned (interesting word to use in this sentence I suppose) if someone is going to look down thier stuck up nose at me about it. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 05:40 PM I think you can all look at the picture in my signature and draw your own conclusion to my opinion on this topic :giggle Do you think it was their "race" that caused this or just the difference in the social/cultural aspect? I know that there are people who are white who have grown up in different social settings that I couldn't date or marry. There are white people who live in different cultural settings that I don't think I could love with either. Has nothing to do with their lifestyle being right or wrong, just different, and therefore not something that I would be attracted to even if they were the same race. I know personally I dated many "white boys" and never could see myself in a long term relationship with them. I also dated several hispanics and other black men who I couldn't see myself in a long term relationship with either. It had nothing to do with the color of their skin or mine. Just wasn't the right fit. My DH and I are different colors but he completes me better than anyone else I have ever dated. I don't think it is because his skin is black either. I think we were meant to be together. i definitely think it was more the differing ethnic/cultural issues than the race, they just happened to be of a different race. VinnysGirl 07-03-2007, 05:46 PM I was raised in the bible belt, where it's not at all acceptable, end of story. My dad's side of the family would have SHIT if I would have married into another race. :faint My mom's side is much more understanding and open about it, but they actually didn't used to be. My grandfather used to have very strong opinions about how wrong it was, but he's really come around over the last several years. I don't know how he would feel if I married outside of our race, but I think he would come around eventually, which is a lot more than what I could have said several years ago. I have been in a relationship with someone who was Puerto Rican. He did act differently than most white men I've ever come across but I think he was actually MORE respectful to people and especially women and a better person than most white men I ever crossed paths with. He treated his mom with the utmost respect, he treated me with the utmost respect, and had I wanted to marry him I do think my family would have eventually come around to it. I didn't used to think so but the more I talk with my grandfather (who was my biggest concern, as far as acceptance), the more I think he would have been okay with it. I think it definitely boils down to how you were raised and WHERE you were raised. In the south (in most places), dating outside your race is a big deal and not widely accepted like it would be in other areas. It's one of those things that will probably be more accepted one day but it's kind of like religon- you can't really beat people up because they have certain beliefs about it one way or the other. It's personal beliefs that were ingrained by family and the culture where they were raised, or based on personal experience. I'm okay with it. If my kids wanted to date someone from another race, I could care less. I'm not 100% sure how Jason would feel about it, ONLY because I think he'd worry what HIS family would think about it (his family is deep south). But as far as his personal feelings on it, I think he's on the same page that I am- we just really don't care who they fall in love with, as long as they are happy and being treated well. I'm right there with you Brandi!!!!! Umm im guessing to say stay ignorant cause i am..I said it..yes i did too :handup That's pretty ignorant in itself! :wink i want people to have different views, gah, come one now, it just seemed like some people were being closed minded. OMG, THAT IS A DIFFERENT VIEW Close mindedness is about as defineable as the clarity in a philosophical statement. Open to interpretation! :wink Ste9 07-03-2007, 05:51 PM This is true. Being from the south, like I am, is going to have a big impact on being from another place that's more open minded. I don't know that this is completely true. My DH is from the south and I'm not the same race as he is. His family is very accepting of me. I'm from Oregon and my family had a harder time with our marriage than his did although they are all very accepting of him and usnow also. Shannon* 07-03-2007, 05:52 PM I think a LOT of this has to do with where people are from. Where I grew up in CA, no one would give a biracial couple even a second glance. I never noticed a difference between "races" until I moved down here to the south and the different ethnic groups (as a majority, because there are always exceptions!) actually ACT different on a regular basis. That was a HUGE culture shock to me! In CA, everyone is just a californian, and you judge people on how they DRESS or ACT rather than their skin tone. Here, everyone seems to judge based on skin tone, no matter how someone acts or dresses. I will say, though, that there is a difference in how the majority of black vs. white vs. hispanic people act here. I think it is because or how they were raised and how they have been treated by everyone else. I'm late in reading this thread, but I wanted to say that I thought this post had a lot of insight and I felt like it was skipped over in there. In particular the line that I highlighted above. I've always felt that where I've lived and gone to school at least, everyone basically "acted" and were treated the same - thus it was other things that defined them, and those attributes weren't predominantly racially based. I would say that around here, compatibility is generally defined through education level and hobbies, and like I said, up here at least, they encompass a diverse group of people racially speaking. Wicked 07-03-2007, 05:54 PM hooooold on... saying "half her problem" is the fact that she doesn't believe in heaven or hell is pretty low and uncalled for along with a few other things you have said. I'm not religious and I'll be damned (interesting word to use in this sentence I suppose) if someone is going to look down thier stuck up nose on me about it. I TOTALLY AGREE. The assumption that someone has to have religion (or a certain religion) to have an adequate moral compass or conscience is untrue and hurtful. What a horrible and ignorant thing to say. Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 05:54 PM I TOTALLY AGREE. The assumption that someone has to have religion (or a certain religion) to have an adequate moral compass or conscience is untrue and hurtful. What a horrible and ignorant thing to say. I agree ash 07-03-2007, 05:55 PM I didnt care to read the whole thread because I am pretty certain I would be upset by some of the answers. That being said.. I dont think interracial dating is any different than dating within race. The guy I just was dating was black and people said negative things to me about it, and all i think is, if they limit themselves to people who look like them, they could be missing out on real love. or their soulmate. Victoria 07-03-2007, 05:55 PM I feel so AWFUL for those of you who feel that my interracial marriage is an "inappropriate" one. We have a BEAUTIFUL son because of it. Some of you folks need to open up your BLIND and color-blinded eyes... guardgirlfriend 07-03-2007, 05:56 PM I don't know that this is completely true. My DH is from the south and I'm not the same race as he is. His family is very accepting of me. I'm from Oregon and my family had a harder time with our marriage than his did although they are all very accepting of him and usnow also. Well it's not always true for everyone. I mean I'm from the south and I really dont care one way or the other. If it makes you happy go for it. It was really just a generalization. Sorry. :D Victoria 07-03-2007, 06:00 PM It's some of you that makes those of us who are part black feel like SHIT... Nickschic 07-03-2007, 06:02 PM I have no problem with intterracial couples. If I had met someone out of my race who i wanted to date or even marry I would have. Im not really sure how my family would feel about it but Im pretty sure they are as open as I am . This was never talked about in my family. Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 06:04 PM It's some of you that makes those of us who are part black feel like SHIT... I don't understand why... Everyone has thier own opinions and views in life. Just because some might not agree doens't mean anything. There are lots of things about my backround that people don't like but it doesn't matter to me that people don't like it. I'm not one of the people who are against it but I'm just saying I don't understand why it matters :) define 07-03-2007, 06:04 PM I feel so AWFUL for those of you who feel that my interracial marriage is an "inappropriate" one. We have a BEAUTIFUL son because of it. Some of you folks need to open up your BLIND and color-blinded eyes... Wha'cha talking about?!?! You're just as beautiful as your son and you came from an interracial marriage. :D On that note, so am I. I guess my marriage is "inappropriate" too. Nickschic 07-03-2007, 06:05 PM I feel so AWFUL for those of you who feel that my interracial marriage is an "inappropriate" one. We have a BEAUTIFUL son because of it. Some of you folks need to open up your BLIND and color-blinded eyes... Its ok girl dont worry about them. I love ya. :hugs Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 06:07 PM I don't understand why people are automatically "closed minded" or "blind" because they don't see things the same way :dunno and I'm not even one of the people who don't agree with interracial marriage. I thought people were allowed to have thier own views and opinions? harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 06:08 PM I don't understand why people are automatically "closed minded" or "blind" because they don't see things the same way :dunno I thought people were allowed to have thier own views and opinions? agree Rileysmom 07-03-2007, 06:08 PM ur not pissing me off, so i dont piss you off i will make this statement. THERE SEEMS TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE BOX FROM THE JUDGEMENT, THIS THREAD, AND THE HOMOSEXUAL ONE. THIS coming from the person who says it's messed up about a kid getting her nose peirced, and about how a woman should be cleaning for her man? Weren't you saying that is how YOU were raised? Alexandra 07-03-2007, 06:09 PM Honestly, this thread was a huge shock to me. I come from the happy liberal bubble of Massachusetts and it is a little hard for me some of these viewpoints expressed. Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 06:09 PM THIS coming from the person who says it's messed up about a kid getting her nose peirced, and about how a woman should be cleaning for her man? Weren't you saying that is how YOU were raised? Wow.. I was just about to say that :lol well I don't have to now. VinnysGirl 07-03-2007, 06:09 PM I don't understand why... Everyone has thier own opinions and views in life. Just because some might not agree doens't mean anything. There are lots of things about my backround that people don't like but it doesn't matter to me that people don't like it. I'm not one of the people who are against it but I'm just saying I don't understand why it matters :) :yes I don't understand why people are automatically "closed minded" or "blind" because they don't see things the same way :dunno and I'm not even one of the people who don't agree with interracial marriage. I thought people were allowed to have thier own views and opinions? Completely agree!!! Wicked 07-03-2007, 06:12 PM I don't understand why people are automatically "closed minded" or "blind" because they don't see things the same way :dunno and I'm not even one of the people who don't agree with interracial marriage. I thought people were allowed to have thier own views and opinions? I didn't call anyone in this thread closed minded or blind and I missed where someone else did, but I just wanted to say that while some people throw around labels like closed minded and blind too easily sometimes, there are also people who will use the fact that they are "allowed to have an opinion" as proof that they are somehow not closed minded. It IS possible to have a closed minded opinion, just like it is possible to believe in something for yourself and still think it is okay for other people to do the opposite if they want. ;) SIMMYBABEZ 07-03-2007, 06:13 PM I don't know if I want to get started in this. I have alot to say, and it WILL piss alot of people off. Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 06:14 PM I didn't call anyone in this thread closed minded or blind and I missed where someone else did, but I just wanted to say that while some people throw around labels like closed minded and blind too easily sometimes, there are also people who will use the fact that they are "allowed to have an opinion" as an excuse for BEING closed minded. It IS possible to have a closed minded opinion, just like it is possible to believe in something for yourself and still think it is okay for other people to do the opposite if they want. ;) I'm not one of the people who even think there is anything wrong with it.... I am just looking at it form the other side too. Brandi 07-03-2007, 06:14 PM I don't know that this is completely true. My DH is from the south and I'm not the same race as he is. His family is very accepting of me. I'm from Oregon and my family had a harder time with our marriage than his did although they are all very accepting of him and usnow also. From my experience, it is generally southern white people who are more against interracial dating/marriage. Just from my personal experience though, and that's all I can go by. define 07-03-2007, 06:14 PM I thought people were allowed to have thier own views and opinions? IMO, there is a difference between having your own beliefs, values, and opinions than to make someone feel like shit (not literally) because of their marriage and/or race, and it seems that, this is what this thread has done, especially saying an interracial marriage is "inappropriate." harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 06:14 PM i got called close minded because i said it wasn't for me. i've dated people of other races, and it didn't work. am i closed minded because i've tried it and it didn't work and i've come to the conclusion that it's not for me? Caimbrie 07-03-2007, 06:16 PM IMO, there is a difference between having your own beliefs, values, and opinions than to make someone feel like shit (not literally) because of their marriage and/or race, and it seems that, this is what this thread has done, especially saying an interracial marriage is "inappropriate." Well I'm not one of the people who said that :lol and I didn't read ALL of the responses because I do believe some people have been very rude in here on both sides. Ste9 07-03-2007, 06:16 PM I think I say the same thing in these threads - everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just because it doesn't agree with someone else's doesn't make it wrong, just different. I just want to say that you ladies all confuse me. If you agree with the original poster about something then it's not ok to have a different opinion but if you disagree with the original poster then it is ok. For example - the whole Heidi post with taking her daughter to pierce her nose. Many of the ladies on here agreed with Heidi and said that she was an open parent for taking her daughter to do it. Those who disagreed with her were "jumped on" and chewed up because they didn't agree with her doing it. Now those same ladies have a difference of opinion with the origianl poster and are saying "I thought we could all have a different opinion and it should be ok?" This really confuses me. Why is it ok in one instance but not the other? It doesn't bother me that people wouldn't date outside their race. That is their opinion and they are entitled to it. I think the place were I and others have a problem is when someone says it's "inappropraite" to date or marry outside your race. Just day you don't agree with it or say that you wouldn't do it but saying it's inappropriate is placing judgement upon those who are in them or the product of them. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 06:17 PM IMO, there is a difference between having your own beliefs, values, and opinions than to make someone feel like shit (not literally) because of their marriage and/or race, and it seems that, this is what this thread has done, especially saying an interracial marriage is "inappropriate." i didn't say it was inappropriate either, just that it wasn't for me and i didn't understand it Wicked 07-03-2007, 06:20 PM I don't know if I want to get started in this. I have alot to say, and it WILL piss alot of people off. I want to hear it anyway Simmy!! i got called close minded because i said it wasn't for me. i've dated people of other races, and it didn't work. am i closed minded because i've tried it and it didn't work and i've come to the conclusion that it's not for me? You are closed minded to the people who can't grasp that when you say "it's not for me" you actually MEAN "It's not for me" and not "no one else should do it because *I* don't want them to"? I don't know, but that could explain it.. I didn't see who called you closed minded though so you would have to ask them. I get where you are coming from and don't think you are closed minded. I don't think that being GAY is for me, since I am straight and all, but that doesn't mean that I am a homophobe. I argue for gay rights ALL THE TIME and believe that gays should be allowed to marry and adopt kids and everything else straight people are allowed to do. Ste9 07-03-2007, 06:21 PM From my experience, it is generally southern white people who are more against interracial dating/marriage. Just from my personal experience though, and that's all I can go by. Maybe it's white people in general that are more against it :lol Cause like I said my family had a harder time with than his did. My Mom told me that my grandmother would roll over in her grave if she could (she was cremated so that's not a possibility :giggle) and my Dad told me that I was "unequally yoked" because I married outside my race and none of them are from the south. harrisonsdream 07-03-2007, 06:21 PM I want to hear it anyway Simmy!! You are closed minded to the people who can't grasp that when you say "it's not for me" you actually MEAN "It's not for me" and not "no one else should do it because *I* don't want them to"? I don't know, but that could explain it.. I didn't see who called you closed minded though so you would have to ask them. I get where you are coming from and don't think you are closed minded. I don't think that being GAY is for me, since I am straight and all, but that doesn't mean that I am a homophobe. I argue for gay rights ALL THE TIME and believe that gays should be allowed to marry and adopt kids and everything else straight people are allowed to do. simmy i might not agree with you but i want to hear too. thank you wicked. Armylove 07-03-2007, 06:23 PM From every debate since Ive been on this board, it always turns out like this. Damned if you do damned if you dont. Im not saying everyone, but it happens a lot. Your wrong if you dont agree with me type thing. And this is why I dont normally post in any debate stuff. *Dawn* 07-03-2007, 06:25 PM I feel so AWFUL for those of you who feel that my interracial marriage is an "inappropriate" one. We have a BEAUTIFUL son because of it. Some of you folks need to open up your BLIND and color-blinded eyes... I agree with you hun...I guess my marriage is "inappropriate" too since Adam is hispanic and i'm a white girl :wink but who cares we have beautiful babies and were happy so thats all that counts! Brandi 07-03-2007, 06:27 PM It's some of you that makes those of us who are part black feel like SHIT... Don't feel like shit. Really, it boils down to different cultures and I think America and the rest of the world, for that matter, has a loooooong way to go before people are completely past racial profiling, discrimination, interracial dating, etc. It's one of those things, much like several of our other heated debates (circ vs no circ, breast vs bottle, religious/christianity, gay rights, abortion, etc)... people are going to have their own opinions that are based on their own experiences and the way they were raised. That's just the bottom line and everyone needs to realize that not everything is a personal jab just because someone else has a differing view. Yes, I am guilty of taking things personally, especially when I feel like I'm being made out to be like less of a person (such as the circ and breastfeeding debates) but I'm working on growing a thicker skin and I think everyone else should, as well... at least if you're going to be in the debates section where things WILL get heated. I'm fairly neutral on this thread. I have first hand experience with the bible belt way of things, so I know first hand how and why people who are against interracial dating feel the way they do. But I also had the opportunity to move from where I grew up, experience an interracial relationship which gave me wonderful and irreplaceable insight to how well a interracial relationship could be. So, I see both sides and I don't think either side is WRONG. Different, but not WRONG, per say. One day, I do believe we'll all be one race. I really do. But we have a long way to go and we're just not there yet. Ste9 07-03-2007, 06:27 PM THIS coming from the person who says it's messed up about a kid getting her nose peirced, and about how a woman should be cleaning for her man? Weren't you saying that is how YOU were raised? I don't think it was so much that she took her daughter to get her nose pierced. I think it was more the fact that she took her to do it right after she was sneaky about piercing her lip. For many people we looked at it as her behavior being rewarded. If my child did something like that behind my back I wouldn't take him/her out and join them in doing it I would make them take it out. ash 07-03-2007, 06:30 PM I agree with you Victoria, this thread could certainly make people feel like shit. The statement "its not for me, but you go ahead" is so funny everytime I see it used. that is just saying "i think it is not good/bad/horrible/innappropriate/unaccaptable but i will not OUTWARDLY judge" and i love the "i let a biracial couple be my friend" good for you :clap... that is as lame as the "i use the N word, and dont want to have a black boss, but im not racist, i swear, i have a black friend" :rolleyes I think saying a relationship is innapropriate based on race IS RACISM. And I think saying you would never be open to an interracial relationship is CLOSE MINDED... not open=closed... just a thought. It is sad to read this because for me, I would like to think if I was madly in love with a black man and decided to marry him, you ladies, who've i've "known" for nearly 2 years, would be happy for me and support me, not disappointed in the color of his skin. Rileysmom 07-03-2007, 06:36 PM I don't think it was so much that she took her daughter to get her nose pierced. I think it was more the fact that she took her to do it right after she was sneaky about piercing her lip. For many people we looked at it as her behavior being rewarded. If my child did something like that behind my back I wouldn't take him/her out and join them in doing it I would make them take it out. No, she was saying the age was the issue in that debate. And just as we shouldn't judge interacial relationships, we also shouldn't judge people's parenting as well. What works for some doesn't work for others. I found it ironic that she is saying people don't think out of the box, yet she was saying how terrible it was that the 13 year old got her nose peirced, and how a woman should be doing all the cleaning. dotb182 07-03-2007, 06:41 PM Wow I'm joining in alittle late but here is my opinion, I personally have no problem with interracial dating but I don't think I would ever do it myself. I was raised in a strict southern family and a lot of my family memebers ( not that I'm proud of it ) are redneck bigots so I was brought up that it is wrong., but that doesn't mean that today I believe taht or that I am offended or think its wrong if others are in a interracial relationship. Its just not something I have ever done. But love is love and tahts all that matters in the end. :) Chevy_Gurl 07-03-2007, 06:49 PM :wow I am totally and completely against. :shock ok not really (just wanted to be on both sides of the fences today) considering what my 'race' makeup and the kids. I think whoever you find love in whether it be the same race or another, who cares. It realy should boil down to.... Everyone deserves to be happy and loved by whoever. Love is colorbind. Since when did you see love come in a certain color? Blue, purple, orange, green red? USCGBoxerMom 07-03-2007, 06:55 PM I am guessing THIS is what all the "inappropriate" crap is about on this thread... I just don't. I am not going to lie, I just don't think it's appropriate to be in a relationship outside of your own ethnic group. YUP...I am the one who said I don't think it's appropriate....because for MY values and beliefs it's not. YOUR values and beliefs are different, I answered the question HONESTLY....something I will think twice about doing again you can be rest assured. Someone said it already..."Damned if you do...damned if you don't". Kat 07-03-2007, 06:55 PM Ok Im only on page 6 so I havent read MUCH yet.... I just have to LMFAO at those who say "its not for me" :lmao :lol Ya'll are hilarious. I mean, have you had your DNA tested? Are you SURE your not ALREADY in a biracial relationship? Or are we talking about bi "skin color" relationships????????? Cause last I knew, there were more races than black, white, and hispanice :lmao Ok I will be back :wink Kat 07-03-2007, 06:58 PM it's not for me. but i have no issues with it. my mom is korean and my stepdad is black. But Donna... you arent just white. You have another race in you. How can you say its not for you, when you yourself are in a "multi racial" relationship? Kara 07-03-2007, 06:58 PM I believe God gave me someone that I was meant for, and he happens to be white. Right now, he is sunburned and RED, and I love him just the same..color doesn't mean a thing to me. And I happen to think mixed race children are some of the most beautiful babies I've ever seen! SIMMYBABEZ 07-03-2007, 06:59 PM Ok first of all- lets pull in these definitions. rac·ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1865–70; < F racisme. See race2, -ism] —Related forms racist, noun, adjective Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source rac·ism (rā'sĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key n. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. rac'ist adj. & n. (Download Now or Buy the Book) The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source racist 1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from Fr. racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1907) and racialist (1917), both often used at first in a British or South African context. Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper WordNet - Cite This Source racist adjective 1. based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2. discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion noun 1. a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University. Ok- so in my opinion. Anyone who dosn't "understand", anyone who "dosn't agree with it", anyone who thinks it's "repulsive"- is a racist. And those sorts of people- make me sick. Not only that, but I also feel sorry for them. For people to be racist, they have hatred in their hearts. Tragic, really. Everyone knows that I think in life- your one and only goal- should be to be happy. I believe that EVERYONE deserves it, and no one should NOT deserve it because of their race, colour, creed, religion, or shoe size. With that being said- OBVIOUSLY I believe in interracial relationships. I myself, am IN one. My husband is hispanic. He is from El Salvador. He is a "caramel" colour. I- am Australian. 4th generation Australian. My family has absolutely no mixed colours in it, my family is as "white" as can be. It's a "pure bloodline". Hell- I'm so white, my maiden name is White. And I have been brought up as a white Australian, and I have also been brought up in a country where MAJORITY of it's people- are white (we do have a very multi cultral country, but most are caucasian). But somehow- I happened to end up believing that love is BLIND, Love is a miracle, and love should NOT be taken for granted, discriminated against, or ignored. So when I first met Giovanni, I saw that he was hispanic. A natural response to the eye. But I also saw the man I loved, the man I knew I didn't want to walk away from, and the man I knew I wanted to share the rest of my life with. His colour has never bothered me. I got disowned by my own grandmother because she found out he was hispanic (weird, she adopted an aboriginal son). But I ALLOWED NO ONE TO SWAY what I KNEW WAS REAL. I let that tart disown me, I let those people look at me like filth because I have "lowered my standards", I let those people stare- because you know what.. I don't CARE what they think. They have so much hatred and IGNORANCE in the way of their sight, they arn't worth MY TIME OF DAY. I look at my husband with rose coloured glasses. I look at my husband with NO judgement, no prejudices or pre concieved notions. I look at my husband with love. I DON'T EVEN SEE HIS COLOUR. I'm so blind to it, I actually called him white once. He laughed. And then I remembered he wasn't white. I just don't see his colour at all. Him being a different race & colour has never bothered me, and it never will. So I can honestly NOT COMPREHEND why there are people who actually use their upbringing as an excuse. I am from a small little population of 19 million, and race has NEVER bothered me. And yet here are AMERICANS who have been brought up in a country with 380 odd million- and they are bothered? And those who "don't understand it". What is to understand? It's a colour. It's JUST A COLOUR. Why the hell should 2 little genes in a persons DNA completely change the way you VIEW & THINK of a person? It's disgusting- absolutely disgusting. And I DO agree- those people ARE close minded. This is the 21st century- get with the times people! Our world will never just become ONE COLOUR. That is what makes our world and the people in it UNIQUE. Stop hating and not tolerating people who look different to you. It's going to be a horrible life if you don't. Open your eyes & hearts to look at the beauty of every single living thing in this world, take the time to look at an interracial couple, look closely- are they happy? Don't they deserve to be happy? Whats so sick about it? It's 2 happy people.. that's something beautiful in my eyes. So yeah- lol.........interracial couples are cool. :thumbsup Oh and I'm not talking about those who are ok with it but like their own colour, I am talking about those who think they are above it. Those who couldn't possibly "lower their standards". Kara 07-03-2007, 07:01 PM Ok Im only on page 6 so I havent read MUCH yet.... I just have to LMFAO at those who say "its not for me" :lmao :lol Ya'll are hilarious. I mean, have you had your DNA tested? Are you SURE your not ALREADY in a biracial relationship? Or are we talking about bi "skin color" relationships????????? Cause last I knew, there were more races than black, white, and hispanice :lmao Ok I will be back :wink I agree. Many older people consider different ethnicies "interracial". My grandmother considers me mixed race:yes I'm Irish and Italian! Most people do not consider that interracial. |