I'm new to all of this, I'm just curious what everyone's outlook on the war is? Do you think our troops still belong over there or do you think they should come home? I hope Im not offending anyone by asking this.

oh man, here it goes again. I can just feel it.

I try not to have an opinion on the war since my DH has joined. ANd if I do, I don't voice it. It's his job and I respect that more than anything. I also don't do any Bush-bashing, because technically he is my husband's boss.

someone should move this to news/debates

oh man, here it goes again. I can just feel it.

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Moved to news/debates ;)

My only outlook on it is that I'm tired of it and quite ready for it to be over and done with.

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Apparentely this has been brought up before and it didn't go over well? I don't no how to change it to new and debate so can someone do it for me. Thanks :)

My opinion by the way is I just keep my mouth shut. I support everything my husband does and is fighting for.

Never keep your mouth shut. Well ok, SOMETIMES keep your mouth shut :giggle

Yes it's been addressed - several times, and it usually winds up knock down drag out, but that's what the debates forum is for. Just don't sling any mud at each other and there's no reason this can't be a healthy, open minded conversation amidst consenting adults.

Ready, BREAK!! :giggle

I agree with the other posters as far as I support and respect the military.
I don't understand why everyone gets all :eek about these kinds of threads. I guess i am one of those people that I think everyone is entitled to their opinions whether you agree or disagree. I think everyone agrees with we want our guys home and safe but to also feel like they accomplished something. So I guess that is my opinion. I want them home and to have then feeling that they did what they had to do to make the world a better place for someone else. JMO

I dont see where it was all that big of a deal to be moved to news/debates -

My feelings are I support our troops and my DH very much they have chose to defend their country and unfortunatly they dont have the choice of which battles we engage in - with that being said though I think what we are trying to do over there is a great gesture and change is needed BUT in my personal opinion they will never change it would take wiping them out completely and starting all new with infants - This life style is Instilled in them from bith, and even if things are starting to look brighter after we pull out it will go back to the same way. I feel our guys are sacrificing their time and their lives for nothing.

I dont see where it was all that big of a deal to be moved to news/debates -




It wasn't, yet. But if history is to repeat itself, it will be eventually ;)

I agree with the other posters as far as I support and respect the military.
I don't understand why everyone gets all :eek about these kinds of threads. I guess i am one of those people that I think everyone is entitled to their opinions whether you agree or disagree. I think everyone agrees with we want our guys home and safe but to also feel like they accomplished something. So I guess that is my opinion. I want them home and to have then feeling that they did what they had to do to make the world a better place for someone else. JMO
Also as far as being new to this. Just remember everyone has opinions. Handle it with grace and class. No reason to get all high school about someone not agreeing with you. HTH

I I don't understand why everyone gets all :eek about these kinds of threads. I guess i am one of those people that I think everyone is entitled to their opinions whether you agree or disagree.

EXACTLEY!!!! :yes

I have a feeling people are going to avoid this onelike the plague:scared:scared :grouphug Can't we all just get along:giggle

I dont agree with the war. With that said I do support our troops and I do understand that its not a situation we can now just walk away from. As much as I miss my DH I realize if they were to pull everyone out now it'd just make things worse. There is no choice but to stay and finish

people avoid these threads like the plague because it inevitably turns into a democrat v. republican, conservative v. liberal debate

My feelings are I support our troops and my DH very much they have chose to defend their country and unfortunatly they dont have the choice of which battles we engage in - with that being said though I think what we are trying to do over there is a great gesture and change is needed BUT in my personal opinion they will never change it would take wiping them out completely and starting all new with infants - This life style is Instilled in them from bith, and even if things are starting to look brighter after we pull out it will go back to the same way. I feel our guys are sacrificing their time and their lives for nothing.

DH and I both feel that exact same way about it.

I dont agree with the war. With that said I do support our troops and I do understand that its not a situation we can now just walk away from. As much as I miss my DH I realize if they were to pull everyone out now it'd just make things worse. There is no choice but to stay and finish

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people avoid these threads like the plague because it inevitably turns into a democrat v. republican, conservative v. liberal debate
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Well I see good and bad in both democrat republican and dont consider myself either one, plus I dont feel someone elses opinion is wrong just because it is not my own so I guess some have the maturity to not make it into a fight -so I guess thats why I am posting here

I just saw Hotel Rwanda last night. If you watch that and think we should have intervened, how could you Not think we need to intervene in Iraq-- everyday that we are there saves hundreds of lives-- that's what I believe

I think I have such great opinions and since I am always right....I have decide to run for President. :yes :hystericlaugh
This is my slogan tell me what you think " Vote for me if you want to party" I think it is catchy. First thing I will make is all enertainers will make min. wage and military will get a big fat pay raise....So....Who is with me?? :rofl

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I think I have such great opinions and since I am always right....I have decide to run for President. :yes :hystericlaugh
This is my slogan tell me what you think " Vote for me if you want to party" I think it is catchy. First thing I will make is all enertainers will make min. wage and military will get a big fat pay raise....So....Who is with me?? :rofl


got my vote LOL

I got one Do I hear Two??? Come on I'll invite all of the SOSERS!!

I got one Do I hear Two??? Come on I'll invite all of the SOSERS!!

TWO!!!!! LETS PARTY!!!! :hosed :yahoo

I avoid it because every single time I post my point of view, I am told " I am in the wrong lifestyle" " maybe I should have thought about it before I married my husband." " Maybe my husband should get out of the military" " or I dont know what I am talking about, and I have no right to voice my opinion" Or " You cant support the troops if you dont support the war" "You are mis informed, your stupid"

I keep my mouth shut on this one, because I dont like to be jumped on, and I dont like to see other people being jumped on.

My personal opinion is that I just want the war to be over. I will always be very supportive of the troops and what they do and sacrifice for this country. I don't feel that I have to support the president's decisions though.

I avoid it because every single time I post my point of view, I am told " I am in the wrong lifestyle" " maybe I should have thought about it before I married my husband." " Maybe my husband should get out of the military" " or I dont know what I am talking about, and I have no right to voice my opinion" Or " You cant support the troops if you dont support the war" "You are mis informed, your stupid"

I keep my mouth shut on this one, because I dont like to be jumped on, and I dont like to see other people being jumped on.

My personal favourite is 'you're not entitled to an opinion unless you're a US citizen'.

My personal favourite is 'you're not entitled to an opinion unless you're a US citizen'.
yes that one too! Thats such BS! Everyone is entitled to their opinion

No I don't support the war. I don't think there is any reason to still be over there. We're wasting money and lives. There are far more important issues that we should be dealing with. America is a world power and we should be putting our resources towards Darfur. I don't understand how that can be ignored. My husband is currently deployed, so I'm not saying I think he's over there for nothing. I fully support my husband, and am very proud of him for what he does, but I don't back our President at ALL. And there are many service members who don't, but are doing what they volunteered their lifes for. I just feel there's nothing left over there for us to be doing.

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I have done this debate way to many times to get into it again.

My feelings are I support our troops and my DH very much they have chose to defend their country and unfortunatly they dont have the choice of which battles we engage in - with that being said though I think what we are trying to do over there is a great gesture and change is needed BUT in my personal opinion they will never change it would take wiping them out completely and starting all new with infants - This life style is Instilled in them from bith, and even if things are starting to look brighter after we pull out it will go back to the same way. I feel our guys are sacrificing their time and their lives for nothing.

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I don't support this war and I will never forgive this administration for getting us to this point.

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ooh, yeahh! me, too!:yes

I don't believe anyone is for war per se. I think people are for doing the right thing and it is all subjective for what is the right thing. For example, Saddam Hussein was a madman out of control that would have been an even bigger nightmare by now had we maintained the status quo. I don't like seeing things continue, afterall I have a son who wants to join the military and that is only three years away, however I want things to be cleaned up right. I don't blame the president, I don't blame his administration...there are numerous parties involved, including congress and the senate and it is awfully convienent for some people to suddenly have a change of heart based on how the polls are going. Whether I agree with somebody or not, I have more respect for people who stand up for what they believe and can support that belief to others with respectful discussion rather than bashing and name calling. Hope that made sense! =)

Moved to news/debates ;)

My only outlook on it is that I'm tired of it and quite ready for it to be over and done with.

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I supported it but I am ready for it to be over now. They KNOW that the long tours are completely screwing up the soldiers and the sailors over there and they don't give a flying fuck.

Ok so see no one has a reason and I think as Military SO's we all have the same opinion. We all want our SO's home and we would wish well for the people we are defending Near and far. Agreed......So now on to my presidency (SP) I GOT TWO VOTES WHO ELSE!!!!:woohoo:egypt:fetti:getdown:thanks

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i agree with what you agreed with :hehe

I dont agree with the war. With that said I do support our troops and I do understand that its not a situation we can now just walk away from. As much as I miss my DH I realize if they were to pull everyone out now it'd just make things worse. There is no choice but to stay and finish

I pretty much agree with this. Some people have said that you can't disagree with the war if you truly support the troops... I personally think that's completely wrong and unfair. I DO support the troops 100% but I don't necessarily like the war or agree with it 100%. However, we're there and I do think there has to be some sort of finish. I don't know how we can necessarily "finish" it, but I don't know if we're ready to completely pull out right now.

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Ok so see no one has a reason and I think as Military SO's we all have the same opinion. We all want our SO's home and we would wish well for the people we are defending Near and far. Agreed......So now on to my presidency (SP) I GOT TWO VOTES WHO ELSE!!!!:woohoo:egypt:fetti:getdown:thanks

I'd vote for ya! ;)

I do support our troops 110%, it is time for them to come home ! Those extended tours piss me off to no end, it's not fair at all. I am so ready for the war to be over with.


I do not like our president, just because he's my husband's boss I do not have to like him. He has lied, lied and lied. That part that irks me most is, he has made it clear it's "his way" or the "highway", what about us Americans ? Seems like he don't give a shit about anybody but himself. Now that was just My personal opinion, so please don't yell at me :)

Ok so see no one has a reason and I think as Military SO's we all have the same opinion. We all want our SO's home and we would wish well for the people we are defending Near and far. Agreed......So now on to my presidency (SP) I GOT TWO VOTES WHO ELSE!!!!:woohoo:egypt:fetti:getdown:thanks


OK, you've got one more vote. On to the White House.

I agree Stephanie but I defiantly have mixed feelings

I guess I am just confused as to why our president thinks we can stop people from killing eachother when they have been doing it for thousands of years. The people in power that we helped get rid of were bad people and should not have been where they were but I think we did it in a very bad way. I saw a bumper sticker that I think sums up my thoughts pretty well:
"Hate the war (L) the warrior"

I support DB's choice to do what he does but I don't support the person who has put him there.

I dont agree with the war. With that said I do support our troops and I do understand that its not a situation we can now just walk away from. As much as I miss my DH I realize if they were to pull everyone out now it'd just make things worse. There is no choice but to stay and finish

I really like how you said this.

i have a hard time supporting war of any kind because of the fragile and precious nature of life. i'm an atheist and am very aware (obsessive is probably a better word) of our mortality. when i watch cnn and the video from the desert i hardly think about the politics or strategy involved. all i can think of when i see camo is that someone's brother, husband, boyfriend or father (someone's happiness, someone's everything) is in danger.

having said that, i understand that war is sometimes necessary. i believe we're too the point where a debate as to whether intervention in iraq was necessary is moot. our troops are already there.

as a poli sci person (condi taught in the department where i earned my degree) i am terribly disappointed in the high level strategy decisions that have been made in the execution/facilitation of this war. a reasonably thoughtful policymaker should have been able to anticipate some of the problems we're having (i know i know, hindsight is 20/20). imo we need only look to history and even some contemporary examples to see that we have a lot to learn about intervening in a country with a political/sociological structure such as iraq.

i hope we are able to conclude the war in a way that honors the men and women who have fought in the war while leaving iraq with some semblance of stability (with the understanding that the american view of stability might not be exactly what we'll get in Iraq)