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harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 10:57 AM
if there was a program that you could microchip your child would you do it? would you ever put a gps chip in your child? provided that there was no harm done to your child and it was performed at like birth when they were a few hours old

Germanchick
07-13-2007, 11:00 AM
No, never. A few years ago they tried a project were they 'mircochipped' a whole family in Florida and it had or was supposed to have all kinds of inf on it (medical etc). IMO that is taking things too far. I think there is just too much room for abuse and misuse of these things.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1981026.stm

goldilockz
07-13-2007, 11:00 AM
No. That's too much.

USCGBoxerMom
07-13-2007, 11:02 AM
No, I don't think I would. But I have chipped my dogs...go figure.

tifflovezyou
07-13-2007, 11:02 AM
NO! I most definitely would NOT micro-chip my child. Thats taking it too far...... That gives new meaning to being an over protective parent.

tifflovezyou
07-13-2007, 11:03 AM
No, I don't think I would. But I have chipped my dogs...go figure.
I did that too, but its wayyyy different

USCGBoxerMom
07-13-2007, 11:04 AM
I did that too, but its wayyyy different

Oh I know...:lol

harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 11:04 AM
i'll be the oddball out, i think i would. of course this is hypothetical and the procedure would be super safe in my hypothetical world lol

tifflovezyou
07-13-2007, 11:05 AM
Though, wouldnt it be great if you could sneak up on your kid when they were out past curfew. Or at a party they shouldnt be at. I still wouldnt do it... :giggle

rosebud*
07-13-2007, 11:06 AM
You know at first thought it seems so out there, but with everything happening in the world today, it almost seems like a benefit. It's like everytime I turn on the news I hear of a child gone missing, or the teenage prostitutes at the truckstops. ( i watch the national geographic channel a lot. damn that lisa ling :) ) I mean if there was a way to know where your child was things like that might not occur so much.. JMO

** but to answer the question, honestly I don't know if i would or not if it was an option.

harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 11:07 AM
see i'm thinking it would be something like if your child is missing it could be activated and you could find them

rosebud*
07-13-2007, 11:07 AM
see i'm thinking it would be something like if your child is missing it could be activated and you could find them
That is what my thoughts were. if something were to happen you could easily locate them.

goldilockz
07-13-2007, 11:08 AM
I think it's a horrible idea.

Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, or my knowledge of just how sneaky Big Brother can be, but I don't trust that something ELSE wouldn't be introduced without the knowledge of involved persons. For anything from research, to census, etc etc.

tifflovezyou
07-13-2007, 11:10 AM
I think it's a horrible idea.

Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, or my knowledge of just how sneaky Big Brother can be, but I don't trust that something ELSE wouldn't be introduced without the knowledge of involved persons. For anything from research, to census, etc etc.
Im not trusting when it comes to stuff like this either. I was thinking those thoughts as well

harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 11:11 AM
i actually think it could be helpful for our census. have it linked to a master computer and it would eliminate the need for the mailing of pesky census forms lol. i'm a dork

MichelleB
07-13-2007, 11:21 AM
No, I think that idea is just odd. I would also be worried that at some point it could turn into a bad thing...

USCGBoxerMom
07-13-2007, 11:24 AM
My fear is some freak would tap into the "central computer" and be able to track kids away from home to pick up.

goldilockz
07-13-2007, 11:25 AM
My fear is some freak would tap into the "central computer" and be able to track kids away from home to pick up.

I hadn't even thought of hacking issues!

Wicked
07-13-2007, 11:27 AM
People are already micro chipped. LOL. Ever hear of bank cards? GPS in cars? Cell phones? IP addresses? You can be tracked down to almost every second of your day already. LOL.

I would do it to my child for one reason... If anything ever happened to them (like getting lost or kidnapped) I could hopefully locate them before something horrible happens to them.

tifflovezyou
07-13-2007, 11:27 AM
My fear is some freak would tap into the "central computer" and be able to track kids away from home to pick up.
OMG I didnt think of that either, GOOD POINT!

Germanchick
07-13-2007, 11:28 AM
i actually think it could be helpful for our census. have it linked to a master computer and it would eliminate the need for the mailing of pesky census forms lol. i'm a dork

1984 here we come. I wouldn't want anything in me that would give anyone the power over me to know anything and everything I have been doing. That is taking things way too far

Green~Mammy
07-13-2007, 01:06 PM
Yes I would micro chip my child if it mean't I would have a better chance of finding them in the event they were kidnapped or lost. I don't want a microchip that has a complete medical/financial reading just a locator.

googlegirl
07-13-2007, 01:09 PM
maybe I would give my child a locator bracelet like the one Sigourney Weaver put on that little girl in Aliens- but it would be pink and green with sparklies

harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 01:09 PM
Yes I would micro chip my child if it mean't I would have a better chance of finding them in the event they were kidnapped or lost. I don't want a microchip that has a complete medical/financial reading just a locator.

:yes

Armylove
07-13-2007, 01:13 PM
nope, never, not in a millions years. To may chances for abuse with that. To many ways for other poeple to use that for themselves.

nope, none. no way. never, dont even think about it.

How would you like it if someone did that to you?

Victoria
07-13-2007, 01:15 PM
NO! I'd have my child wear a GPS bracelet, neckchain, etc, instead!

Dori
07-13-2007, 01:21 PM
I think it's a horrible idea.

Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, or my knowledge of just how sneaky Big Brother can be, but I don't trust that something ELSE wouldn't be introduced without the knowledge of involved persons. For anything from research, to census, etc etc.

I agree. I would never do it because it would absolutely be abused by the wrong people. They're already microchipping some government officials in other countries. I think Mexico is doing it... I fear for the day microchipping becomes a government mandated thing.

Armylove
07-13-2007, 01:22 PM
I agree. I would never do it because it would absolutely be abused by the wrong people. They're already microchipping some government officials in other countries. I think Mexico is doing it... I fear for the day microchipping becomes a government mandated thing.
Ditto, its taking it to far. But then again, I view alot of the laws we have today as being to far. But that a whole other vent.

Stephanie77
07-13-2007, 03:02 PM
No way, my children are not animals . I would mind some kind of locator bracelet, necklace or cell phone.

Nicci
07-13-2007, 03:11 PM
If it was a microchip like the ones they use in pets, sure. I'm all for having a code number that can be entered into a computer at the hospital and have all my medical records pop up. It's such a pain to have to haul them around all the time. But a GPS or data storage other than a code number? Nah. Right now the smallest GPS chip is the size of a postage stamp and IMO that's still too large to implant. And I don't see the point. The chances of a kid getting kidnapped are very low. For every 1 kid you read about in the news that gets hurt, there are a million others that didn't. The news just likes to scare you.

BubblesAngel13
07-13-2007, 03:18 PM
If I knew it was safe, I probably would! For the purposes of finding them if they were ever kidnapped! :yes

girl20racer
07-13-2007, 03:28 PM
Wow, it almost sounds like "Mark of the Beast" scary.

I wouldn't

Hope
07-13-2007, 03:47 PM
I remember back when I was little this really scary Baptist minister at my friend's church preaching about the locators they put in animals and how someday they are going to put them in humans and they will be the mark of the Beast like in Revelations. Scariest thing ever. I was terrified, going to the doctors to get my shots that they were putting one in me and I'd have to live through the Rapture and go to hell... Wow, that good ol' Southern Baptist brimstone and fire preaching! Scared me shitless.

Kara
07-13-2007, 04:03 PM
I'm not sure...I'm split on this topic! But I would probably put a little tracker in their car when they get their lisence:)

girl20racer
07-13-2007, 04:14 PM
I remember back when I was little this really scary Baptist minister at my friend's church preaching about the locators they put in animals and how someday they are going to put them in humans and they will be the mark of the Beast like in Revelations. Scariest thing ever. I was terrified, going to the doctors to get my shots that they were putting one in me and I'd have to live through the Rapture and go to hell... Wow, that good ol' Southern Baptist brimstone and fire preaching! Scared me shitless.


:lol

That is EXACTLY what I thought of when I read it.. :ohno

Caimbrie
07-13-2007, 04:22 PM
hmm I'm not real sure... I guess it really all depended on how the system of it was set up and how harmless it is... ect.

Kat
07-13-2007, 05:17 PM
OH F*** NO!!!!!
Dude.. the first thing that pops in my head is MARK OF THE BEAST. Hell no, not my child, not me. :no
According to the Scriptures, the "mark of the beast" is received on the right hand or forehead. With modern technology, it is very possible that this mark may be directly linked with a computer chip

harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 05:26 PM
so y'all wouldn't do something to help keep your child safe because it's the "mark of the beast"

DakotaCowgirl
07-13-2007, 05:48 PM
Nope..not here. I don't even like it in my animals. That is to much right there and I am with the mark of the beast thing too. Big brother knows to much already. When he gets old enough to go out alone, he will carry a cell phone. Not a chip.

Yuck!

Dr. K
07-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Good question!

I don't have kids, but I think I would highly consider it if I did. Because if they went missing it sounds like it would be a huge help to find them and hopefully sooner and alive! Also if they were ever hurt and I wasn't right there in the ER with them, the ER could get all their past medical history right away and to ID them in order to call me ASAP.

I think chipping older individuals is a good idea too. That way if they are found without ID or without another person conscious to speak for them, their past medical history and wishes for resucitation and organ donation could be found out immediately by the ER and followed precisely. In that case I think chipping is a good idea.

goldilockz
07-13-2007, 05:57 PM
It's also pretty unrealistic. The money and manpower it would take to run that kind of program would be astronomical. There would have to be servers and databases that you would have to update when you move, new phone numbers, etc. To keep those kinds of records for the mass number of people in the US, much less the entire population of the earth, would strain the economy even more because if it were to be a possibility, you would have to charge people to use it. Then if it's a mandatory thing, people would skirt it so as not to have to pay, and you would have to pay taxes on the manpower and resources to track THOSE people down, like with child support.

It's not a realistic idea. JMO

define
07-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Nope, I wouldn't.

harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 06:24 PM
It's also pretty unrealistic. The money and manpower it would take to run that kind of program would be astronomical. There would have to be servers and databases that you would have to update when you move, new phone numbers, etc. To keep those kinds of records for the mass number of people in the US, much less the entire population of the earth, would strain the economy even more because if it were to be a possibility, you would have to charge people to use it. Then if it's a mandatory thing, people would skirt it so as not to have to pay, and you would have to pay taxes on the manpower and resources to track THOSE people down, like with child support.

It's not a realistic idea. JMO

that's why it's HYPOTHETICAL lol

Brandi
07-13-2007, 08:59 PM
YES. Without a doubt.

Joy
07-13-2007, 09:13 PM
Nope, I'm not very "religous" but what I did learn and held onto it goes to close to the "mark of the beast" for my liking and also too controlling. Why should you have to put a micro-chip IN your child? Why can't you WATCH your child close enough to keep them from being taken? I can understand parents can't help children being kidnapped from home in their sleep... granted. But at a store. :rolleyes In the front yard :rolleyes Where were YOU? Was that phone call that important? That magazine? Whatever. I see SOO many parents walk away from their carts at the store. :mumble. You don't want your kids getting lost or stolen, then take as good care of them as you do your cell phone, wallet, purse... keep them in hands reach, in visual range at ALL times and you wouldn't need to microchip your child like some animal.

Traci
07-13-2007, 09:18 PM
i'll be the oddball out, i think i would. of course this is hypothetical and the procedure would be super safe in my hypothetical world lol

Your not alone. i think if I were given the option when my kids were born I may. With the number of missing children it may be helpful. It would have to be proven safe for my child though.

goldilockz
07-13-2007, 09:40 PM
that's why it's HYPOTHETICAL lol

My bad, I assumed it was a debate wherein we could present reasons why we wouldn't want it/why it wouldn't work.

Sorry.

harrisonsdream
07-13-2007, 09:42 PM
My bad, I assumed it was a debate wherein we could present reasons why we wouldn't want it/why it wouldn't work.

Sorry.

no it is but it's not like it would happen today tomorrow or even 5 years down the road. it's just everyone is saying that it's not practical for right now. and in my original post i said provided everything was safe. ;)

MontanaSweetie
07-13-2007, 10:03 PM
While its a good idea in theory, No, I would never personally have it put into my child, or myself either.

Miranda
07-13-2007, 10:06 PM
Nope, I'm not very "religous" but what I did learn and held onto it goes to close to the "mark of the beast" for my liking and also too controlling. Why should you have to put a micro-chip IN your child? Why can't you WATCH your child close enough to keep them from being taken? I can understand parents can't help children being kidnapped from home in their sleep... granted. But at a store. :rolleyes In the front yard :rolleyes Where were YOU? Was that phone call that important? That magazine? Whatever. I see SOO many parents walk away from their carts at the store. :mumble. You don't want your kids getting lost or stolen, then take as good care of them as you do your cell phone, wallet, purse... keep them in hands reach, in visual range at ALL times and you wouldn't need to microchip your child like some animal.


I think this is a bit harsh...not all parents whos children are kidnapped did something wrong. You have to remember that most kidnappers are of a "PROFESSIONAL" manner. They stalk, they wait, they have it all planned out. Other missing "kids" are grown adults, or college students that a parent cannot always keep an eye on. But you are right that there are way to many senseless harmings to children. I would totally do it for my children if it were safe. And then when they were of age to decide they wanted it out, then thats their choice. But if it was for their own safety, id hope theyd keep it. I cannot even imagine the pain, heartbreak, and misery of a parent whos child is missing. not knowing if their child is dead or alive, in pain, being tortured.....and i never want to go through it. Anything to prevent that I am for.

Veronica
07-13-2007, 10:26 PM
I'm not sure...I'm split on this topic! But I would probably put a little tracker in their car when they get their lisence:)

I'm split as well. and the tracker in the car is :thumbsup

Brandi
07-13-2007, 11:02 PM
I think this is a bit harsh...not all parents whos children are kidnapped did something wrong. You have to remember that most kidnappers are of a "PROFESSIONAL" manner. They stalk, they wait, they have it all planned out. Other missing "kids" are grown adults, or college students that a parent cannot always keep an eye on. But you are right that there are way to many senseless harmings to children. I would totally do it for my children if it were safe. And then when they were of age to decide they wanted it out, then thats their choice. But if it was for their own safety, id hope theyd keep it. I cannot even imagine the pain, heartbreak, and misery of a parent whos child is missing. not knowing if their child is dead or alive, in pain, being tortured.....and i never want to go through it. Anything to prevent that I am for.

I agree with this. I'd even venture to say that most of the true kid nappings are not done in a situation that's within the mother or father's control. People break into homes to steal children out of their beds. What if a relative that is a normally responsible person happens to turn away for a few seconds and bam, the child is gone. Look at the way schools are these days, with shootings and what not... someone could just as easily walk in and either sign a child out as theirs (they're SUPPOSED to check for ID and call a parent but I know first hand that many schools are too lax about that type of thing) or they could just as easily walk in with a gun and take which ever kids they want to. What about a teen that's kidnapped? Maybe a 16 year old girl who is at the mall with a couple friends or buying a new shirt for work, then happens to get nabbed while walking out to her car.

I think it is COMPLETELY and totally unfair to insinuate that most kid nappings happen b/c of parents letting it happen.

goldilockz
07-14-2007, 08:57 AM
That 12 year old girl that was kidnapped and killed was outside in the alley alone at 9:45 at night.

I'm sorry if this offends, but the majority of kidnaps ARE because the parent turned their attention away even for a second. YES, the kidnappers stalk and plan, and they WAIT for that one moment. That's just how it is. It's not the parent's "fault" that they had to turn their attention to the other child for a second or whatever, but that's how most of them happens.

It is very very rare to have a case like Polly Glass who was snatched from her bed in her home. Most happen on a playground, or in a mall, etc.

I don't think what Joy was saying was "harsh" at all. I think it's realistic.

Traci
07-14-2007, 09:03 AM
I still think if something safe was offered to help in these situations that happen, reguardless of whos fault it is,I would do it.JMO

Becca
07-14-2007, 09:08 AM
if there was a program that you could microchip your child would you do it? would you ever put a gps chip in your child? provided that there was no harm done to your child and it was performed at like birth when they were a few hours old

I would have to say no. My child is not an animal to be tagged. It just seems to extreme to me - even considering the whole kidnapping angle. It's too...um...yeah. It would just be too much.

Edited to add:

OMG. Tawny...we agree on something. :giggle

goldilockz
07-14-2007, 09:13 AM
OMG. Tawny...we agree on something. :giggle

First time for everything :giggle