DO you think people who smoke should be able to sue the tobacco companies when or if they eventually become sick from it??

Should family members be able to sue the tobacco companies after someone who smoked dies?

No, I most certainly do not. Im a smoker, and I know ALL the risks im taking everytime I light up. I do NOT think its right these people use the tobacco co's as their scape goats. People need to live up to their actions, and face some consequences once in a while.

Its a money thing, like EVERYTHING else on this planet. The tobacco co's are providing a product, not holding a gun to anyones head and making them smoke.

People whos family members get killed by drunk drivers dont sue the co that made the booze.

No, I most certainly do not. Im a smoker, and I know ALL the risks im taking everytime I light up. I do NOT think its right these people use the tobacco co's as their scape goats. People need to live up to their actions, and face some consequences once in a while.

Its a money thing, like EVERYTHING else on this planet. The tobacco co's are providing a product, not holding a gun to anyones head and making them smoke.

People whos family members get killed by drunk drivers dont sue the co that made the booze.

I totally agree with you. I am a former smoker also and I dont think they should sue. They know what they are doing. The warnings are all there and they still choose to smoke.

I totally agree with you. I am a former smoker also and I dont think they should sue. They know what they are doing. The warnings are all there and they still choose to smoke.
It would be like putting a warning label on a gun that says "If you shot a bullet into your head, you will die" And someone doing it anyway. THEN getting money for it. LAME!

As soon as women's groups can sue the makers of Barbie for creating a well of self doubt in women.

As soon as I can sue McDonald's for making food that I can eat and raise my cholesterol.

As soon as a distraught family can sue Slipknot for writing songs about suicide.

As soon as Jack Thompson can sue a game company for making objectionable IP.

As soon as parents can sue id Software for making the game "Doom".

I smoke and intend on getting an infinite refill of morphine instead of spending thousands on treatment - none of which will stop me from dying anyway.

No, I most certainly do not. Im a smoker, and I know ALL the risks im taking everytime I light up. I do NOT think its right these people use the tobacco co's as their scape goats. People need to live up to their actions, and face some consequences once in a while.

Its a money thing, like EVERYTHING else on this planet. The tobacco co's are providing a product, not holding a gun to anyones head and making them smoke.

People whos family members get killed by drunk drivers dont sue the co that made the booze.

:yes

People that do that piss me off :catfight:rolleyes:madwife

No, we know full well the risk. I should scan some cigarette boxes here- lol there is no "surgeon general's warning"-there are photos of human brains, lungs, eyes, teeth and deformed babies... there is no fooling. We know the risk.

Uh, NO!

No - at least not in todays setting. BEFORE all of the information was out there as to the dangers of smoking, maybe, but today everyone KNOWS what the risks are and those who CHOOSE to smoke are CHOOSING to accept those risks. My DH is a smoker, if/when there is an impact on his life (ie disease and/or death) I will not be looking to the tobacco industry to pay me for HIS choice (I will, however, be pissed as hell at him for continuing to endanger his health by smoking)

I told my mother that if she gets any ailment associated with smoking and needs to be cared for, she's not coming here. She will go into a home because all three kids told her that. She knows the consequences, and doesn't seem to mind.

No, they are aware of the risks!! Its their own fault for starting!

No, I most certainly do not. Im a smoker, and I know ALL the risks im taking everytime I light up. I do NOT think its right these people use the tobacco co's as their scape goats. People need to live up to their actions, and face some consequences once in a while.

Its a money thing, like EVERYTHING else on this planet. The tobacco co's are providing a product, not holding a gun to anyones head and making them smoke.

People whos family members get killed by drunk drivers dont sue the co that made the booze.

I agree, well said Tiff!

NO, and I repeat NO NO NO, they should not be allowed to sue a tobacco company if they get cancer or whatever illness related to smoking! You make the CHOICE to put the cigarette in your mouth, no one forces you to do it. You can make the CHOICE to stop smoking, no more how "addicted" to it you are. JMO.

No, we know full well the risk. I should scan some cigarette boxes here- lol there is no "surgeon general's warning"-there are photos of human brains, lungs, eyes, teeth and deformed babies... there is no fooling. We know the risk.

You should scan the one that has the huge black box with white letters that says "Smoking Kills" in the largest font they could find. I bout fell over when I saw that one. That kind of educational theory wouldn't work so well here in the US - people would sue the company if the DIDN'T die.

absoutely not! well at least not now with all these obvious labels, advertising, and educating... it's like a person sueing a gun company when he intentionally shot himself in the leg..

No...and as a matter of fact i think it should be illegal to sue the cigarette companies over this. There are enough warnings out there, seriously it's either spoken about or written so can't say they have never heard it.

My Granny died from lung cancer....she was a long time smoker and as sad as it was when she died, I would never dream of using her name to sue for money over her death and her cigarette smoking. I would rather use that time and energy remembering her and teaching my kids all about her

I ask this Question for those that do not think people should sue-

How can the tobacco industry continue to manufacture a deadly product?

Ford is recalling a million vehicles, over a million toys have been recalled,
Phen Phen, Vioxx were taken off the market due to causing health problems.

Why has the tobacco industry been able to continue manufacturing a product that has KNOWN deadly side effects?

And to ask-- WHY do you risk your life unneccasarily, and why endanger those that are around you when you smoke?

Have you actually seen someone DIE from a smoking related illness- cancer of the throat?
enphasema?
lung cancer?
I have and let me say it is not pretty-
the morphine only helps at the end...

At this moment my grandmother who has never smoked a day in her life - cannot eat any food- she uses a feeding tube, she has enphasema and coughs and spews mucus all day-
why because she use to work in an enviroment that allowed smoking.
she is only 83.
she will die a slow painful death, because of those companies that are "ALLOWED" to continue manufacturing a deadly product.

WHy people sue--- because there is no other legal recourse-
and hopefully it will get them where it hurts the most - the pocket book-

do a research on the amount of money they have paid out to law suits--
almost a billion dollars-

could Mc Donalds afford that- no way they would have shut their doors after the first 20 million went out...

think about that......

No there is already a warning on the pacakges..it isn't there fault if they don't read it.

I grew up around my great grandmother who just a few years ago died from cancer...she had it growing all over her body, had a huge hole in the side of her face from they removing her eye..and I will never smoke after seeing that.

I dont know why they can still sell it, but ultimately it is the comsumers decision whether or not they will buy it...Nor do I know why they would use them..it still escapes me why both of my cousins smoked after seeing my GGma go threw that.

No

No, of course not.

I ask this Question for those that do not think people should sue-

How can the tobacco industry continue to manufacture a deadly product?

Ford is recalling a million vehicles, over a million toys have been recalled,
Phen Phen, Vioxx were taken off the market due to causing health problems.

Why has the tobacco industry been able to continue manufacturing a product that has KNOWN deadly side effects?

And to ask-- WHY do you risk your life unneccasarily, and why endanger those that are around you when you smoke?

Have you actually seen someone DIE from a smoking related illness- cancer of the throat?
enphasema?
lung cancer?
I have and let me say it is not pretty-
the morphine only helps at the end...

At this moment my grandmother who has never smoked a day in her life - cannot eat any food- she uses a feeding tube, she has enphasema and coughs and spews mucus all day-
why because she use to work in an enviroment that allowed smoking.
she is only 83.
she will die a slow painful death, because of those companies that are "ALLOWED" to continue manufacturing a deadly product.

WHy people sue--- because there is no other legal recourse-
and hopefully it will get them where it hurts the most - the pocket book-

do a research on the amount of money they have paid out to law suits--
almost a billion dollars-

could Mc Donalds afford that- no way they would have shut their doors after the first 20 million went out...

think about that......

Because this is a free country, and people are free to be as stupid as they want to be. Especially when it comes to stupidly using products that pay a lot of money to politicians to stay legal. LOL. Cigarettes are not used to treat any illness so they don't have to make people healthier. Why is alcohol still legal? Why is fast food legal? Why are cars that burn gasoline legal? Free market. My grandfather had severe emphysema when he died at the age of 71 and he never worked or lived in a smoke filled environment. There is no way to protect everyone from everything, so the things with the most money and political influence win. One of the side effects of democracy.

I ask this Question for those that do not think people should sue-

How can the tobacco industry continue to manufacture a deadly product?

Ford is recalling a million vehicles, over a million toys have been recalled,
Phen Phen, Vioxx were taken off the market due to causing health problems.

Why has the tobacco industry been able to continue manufacturing a product that has KNOWN deadly side effects?

And to ask-- WHY do you risk your life unneccasarily, and why endanger those that are around you when you smoke?

Have you actually seen someone DIE from a smoking related illness- cancer of the throat?
enphasema?
lung cancer?
I have and let me say it is not pretty-
the morphine only helps at the end...

At this moment my grandmother who has never smoked a day in her life - cannot eat any food- she uses a feeding tube, she has enphasema and coughs and spews mucus all day-
why because she use to work in an enviroment that allowed smoking.
she is only 83.
she will die a slow painful death, because of those companies that are "ALLOWED" to continue manufacturing a deadly product.

WHy people sue--- because there is no other legal recourse-
and hopefully it will get them where it hurts the most - the pocket book-

do a research on the amount of money they have paid out to law suits--
almost a billion dollars-

could Mc Donalds afford that- no way they would have shut their doors after the first 20 million went out...

think about that......


For that matter lets sue the companies that make alcohol, processed foods, people who use MSG in there foods, people who process foods in plants where peanut products and gluten products are processed....the list could literally go on. Way too much of todays society would rather place blame on others rather than themselves and it's a crying shame.

As far as I have seen there is no 100% evidence that second hand smoke is killing people, there are plenty of people who get emphysema without having ever smoked or being around second hand smoke.

I am very sorry for your grandma...it's sad watching a loved one die...btdt twice already. One being my granny who died of lung cancer from many years of smoking....that was a choice she made however to smoke and she knew the consequences of her actions.

No. They indulged their own damn addiction.

nope, the risks are fully printed and anyone and everyone has access to them. and to the person who said why can the companies continue to manufacture a deadly product it's because they put the warnings on the packaging saying yes this may cause x, y and z problem. i watched my great grandma die of emphysema and no it's not pretty and i did feel sorry for her because she came from a time when smoking was the cool thing to do and there wasn't public knowledge of the consequences. she stopped when she started getting sick but it was too late

I ask this Question for those that do not think people should sue-

How can the tobacco industry continue to manufacture a deadly product?

Ford is recalling a million vehicles, over a million toys have been recalled,
Phen Phen, Vioxx were taken off the market due to causing health problems.

Why has the tobacco industry been able to continue manufacturing a product that has KNOWN deadly side effects?

And to ask-- WHY do you risk your life unneccasarily, and why endanger those that are around you when you smoke?

Have you actually seen someone DIE from a smoking related illness- cancer of the throat?
enphasema?
lung cancer?
I have and let me say it is not pretty-
the morphine only helps at the end...

At this moment my grandmother who has never smoked a day in her life - cannot eat any food- she uses a feeding tube, she has enphasema and coughs and spews mucus all day-
why because she use to work in an enviroment that allowed smoking.
she is only 83.
she will die a slow painful death, because of those companies that are "ALLOWED" to continue manufacturing a deadly product.

WHy people sue--- because there is no other legal recourse-
and hopefully it will get them where it hurts the most - the pocket book-

do a research on the amount of money they have paid out to law suits--
almost a billion dollars-

could Mc Donalds afford that- no way they would have shut their doors after the first 20 million went out...

think about that......
Actually I have thought about all of those reasons. Im sorry to hear your grandmother is having such a tough time, I DO NOT agree with people smoking in environments that are not well ventilated. But im not sure that was the question here.

People CHOOSE to smoke, they KNOW the risks. The reason tabacco cos are "allowed" to market a deadly product is because people are taking their own risks when they decide to smoke.

Many companies manufacture deadly products, this isnt a world where EVERYTHING is safe. The companies that made medications that caused problems were suppose to be helping people. The people who took these meds didn't know they could get sick from them. One of the creeds in medicine is that you will "Do NO harm".

Its just an excuse for people not taking responsibility for their actions.

no!

No..Your choice to smoke.

DO you think people who smoke should be able to sue the tobacco companies when or if they eventually become sick from it??

Should family members be able to sue the tobacco companies after someone who smoked dies?

NO! People know damn well when they smoke what the risks are. They shouldn't be surprised when they get cancer or pass away.

As soon as women's groups can sue the makers of Barbie for creating a well of self doubt in women.

As soon as I can sue McDonald's for making food that I can eat and raise my cholesterol.

As soon as a distraught family can sue Slipknot for writing songs about suicide.

As soon as Jack Thompson can sue a game company for making objectionable IP.

As soon as parents can sue id Software for making the game "Doom".

I smoke and intend on getting an infinite refill of morphine instead of spending thousands on treatment - none of which will stop me from dying anyway.


This is all so true! i'm a smoker and if you've ever been bored enough to examine the warning lable that they put on every lil box......ect. but also to the point of picking up that first cig, you should know what people are dieing from around you everyday......

Wow, a debate where NO ONE disagrees...

WEIRD.

HELL NO!!! It is their decision to smoke, and many can choose not to - so can they.

I think that is as stupid as a guy breaking in someones house, getting hurt and suing them for their injuries.

I'm going to have to agree with everyone else here and say no. There are warnings on the box of cigs... Many places are now banning smoking in the building so second hand smoke won't be as plausible (sp?). Many bars (at least here in tx) are banning smoking inside.

no, and no. and i'm a smoker. smokers KNOW the dangers, even if we ignore them. i CHOOSE to smoke. i should not be allowed to sue the tobacco company if i wind up with a smoking related illness. my family should not be allowed to profit by suing the company because of something stupid that *I* did (my family wouldn't, i'm just making a point lol).

I don't agree with people being able to sue.

In the past I believe most of the lawsuits have pertained to how much nicotine the manufacturers were putting into the cigarettes.......to get first time users hooked faster. I heard something not too long ago where they have once again been caught putting higher levels ( even since they had agreed to regulate it more), to still make their product more addictive than it would be naturally:vent

I don't think its right to sue them if they WILLINGLY smoked...
Its like sueing MacDonald's for making you fat...

smokers suing is beyond stupid. Its a choice. How about alcoholics suing alcohol companies? Or people who eat fast food everyday suing mcdonals. I mean come on. We ALL know that mcdonalds is yummy. But we also ALL know that if you eat that every single day, not only will you gain weight but your risk of high cholesteral and the like goes up

In this day and age there is quite honestly bad things with almost anything. Too mmuch water can kill you. A glass of wine a day? for awhile was good for ya. then was bad. now good again. Lead paint used to be used all the time. Now they have found it is bad. How about all the pollution you breath in each and every day?

Suing over something like that is beyond ridiculous. When I smoked I knew full well the reprucussions.

My adopted Dad smoked around us as kids all the time. Yes even in the car windows rolled up. If I get lung cancer you can bet your sweet ass I am suing.

I am not sure on people that willfully use the poison tobacco companies sell. Sometimes I think suing them is the only way to get them to stop selling a product that harms SO many not just the smokers but the people in the smokers life/environment as well. (second hand smoke is WORSE no filter)

My step Dad still smokes we are always asking him to quit. If he gets ill I will care for him (if my Mom is unable to or has passed away already) because he is my Dad and I love him. I would not force him into a home just because he smoked. I would hope that my kids will care for me when I am old & sick as well.

No people shouldn't be able to sue after getting cancer from cigarettes... There are warnings on the cartons and it's not any secret you can get cancer from smoking. If you want to smoke knowing you can get sick then you've got to deal with the consequences. Family members shouldn't have the right either, was their relatives choice to smoke.

DO you think people who smoke should be able to sue the tobacco companies when or if they eventually become sick from it??

Should family members be able to sue the tobacco companies after someone who smoked dies?

Most def not! I'm a smoker (presently trying to quit) and I can't imagine getting sick and suing someone for something I did to myself and my family most def wouldn't.

I ask this Question for those that do not think people should sue-

How can the tobacco industry continue to manufacture a deadly product?

Ford is recalling a million vehicles, over a million toys have been recalled,
Phen Phen, Vioxx were taken off the market due to causing health problems.

Why has the tobacco industry been able to continue manufacturing a product that has KNOWN deadly side effects?

And to ask-- WHY do you risk your life unneccasarily, and why endanger those that are around you when you smoke?

Have you actually seen someone DIE from a smoking related illness- cancer of the throat?
enphasema?
lung cancer?
I have and let me say it is not pretty-
the morphine only helps at the end...

At this moment my grandmother who has never smoked a day in her life - cannot eat any food- she uses a feeding tube, she has enphasema and coughs and spews mucus all day-
why because she use to work in an enviroment that allowed smoking.
she is only 83.
she will die a slow painful death, because of those companies that are "ALLOWED" to continue manufacturing a deadly product.

WHy people sue--- because there is no other legal recourse-
and hopefully it will get them where it hurts the most - the pocket book-

do a research on the amount of money they have paid out to law suits--
almost a billion dollars-

could Mc Donalds afford that- no way they would have shut their doors after the first 20 million went out...

think about that......

She asked if someone who SMOKES should be able to sue or if the family of someone who SMOKES should be able to smoke. She didn't say anything about people who become sick after being around people who smoke ect... And yes I have watched someone die of lung cancer...my grandfather. I will agree that it is HORRIBLE for someone who chose to never smoke to have to deal with what your grandmother is. I'll keep her in my prayers!!!

This is all so true! i'm a smoker and if you've ever been bored enough to examine the warning lable that they put on every lil box......ect. but also to the point of picking up that first cig, you should know what people are dieing from around you everyday......

:yes

Wow, a debate where NO ONE disagrees...

WEIRD.

I will gladly play devil's advocate if people need their beliefs reaffirmed - though I don't think I do. I won't make any believers for pro-sueing :)

My adopted Dad smoked around us as kids all the time. Yes even in the car windows rolled up. If I get lung cancer you can bet your sweet ass I am suing.

I am not sure on people that willfully use the poison tobacco companies sell. Sometimes I think suing them is the only way to get them to stop selling a product that harms SO many not just the smokers but the people in the smokers life/environment as well. (second hand smoke is WORSE no filter)

My step Dad still smokes we are always asking him to quit. If he gets ill I will care for him (if my Mom is unable to or has passed away already) because he is my Dad and I love him. I would not force him into a home just because he smoked. I would hope that my kids will care for me when I am old & sick as well.

I don't know if this was in response to my post a while back, but the REASON none of us want to take care of an idiot who did harm to themselves (aka smoker) is because it's a lot of work and time and emotional and financial investment to care for an elderly parent. If our mother just gets old and decrepit then she can stay with me, I'll drive her and give her the meds and change her diaper, sponge bathe etc.

HOWEVER I REFUSE to care for her if she gets any ailments caused by smoking. Why put myself to all that trouble and misery and pain (and my kids for that matter) when SHE could have (and still can as she is only 45) chosen to stop smoking at any time? That's just the reasoning that my brother, sister, and I have come to in this situation. As long as she doesn't get cancer or any other known to be caused by smoking sort of thing, she's welcome to come and live with me when she is old and senile.

No I don't think anyone who smokes has any grounds to sue. There is enough info out there to let a person know that smoking is bad. I did it for over ten years knowing it was bad for me. But that was my decision no one else's.

I do think that there should be more out there on how addicting smoking is.

I don't know if this was in response to my post a while back, but the REASON none of us want to take care of an idiot who did harm to themselves (aka smoker) is because it's a lot of work and time and emotional and financial investment to care for an elderly parent. If our mother just gets old and decrepit then she can stay with me, I'll drive her and give her the meds and change her diaper, sponge bathe etc.

HOWEVER I REFUSE to care for her if she gets any ailments caused by smoking. Why put myself to all that trouble and misery and pain (and my kids for that matter) when SHE could have (and still can as she is only 45) chosen to stop smoking at any time? That's just the reasoning that my brother, sister, and I have come to in this situation. As long as she doesn't get cancer or any other known to be caused by smoking sort of thing, she's welcome to come and live with me when she is old and senile.

We will have to agree to disagree on that point I will never see your side on that sorry.

HAHAHAHAHA, I AM a smoker and would never even attempt to sue the companies for my illnesses.. I knew the exact consequences every time I smoke a cigarette.. It's not like it's not right on the box saying how harmful it is.. LOL

I don't know if this was in response to my post a while back, but the REASON none of us want to take care of an idiot who did harm to themselves (aka smoker) is because it's a lot of work and time and emotional and financial investment to care for an elderly parent. If our mother just gets old and decrepit then she can stay with me, I'll drive her and give her the meds and change her diaper, sponge bathe etc.

HOWEVER I REFUSE to care for her if she gets any ailments caused by smoking. Why put myself to all that trouble and misery and pain (and my kids for that matter) when SHE could have (and still can as she is only 45) chosen to stop smoking at any time? That's just the reasoning that my brother, sister, and I have come to in this situation. As long as she doesn't get cancer or any other known to be caused by smoking sort of thing, she's welcome to come and live with me when she is old and senile.


Wow. Do you drink? Do you drink caffiene? ANYTHING now a days can be addicting. And alot can cause harm. How would it make you feel if you enjoyed a drinking, got cancer, then your kids refused to care for you? Or you got high cholestral from eating fast food or something that lead to a high blood pressure and eventually a stroke. ANd then your kids wouldnt care for you because you chose to eat that way?

Do some research. While you may say it is easy to quit smoking ask ANY smoker (former or current) and they will tell you that is 1 of the HARDEST things you can do. And a smoker cannot quit simply because their family wants it. They have to want it for THEMSELVES. Studies have shown that smoking can be more addicting then heroin. So while you may say she can quit smoking anytime. It isnt always that easy. In fact they say on average it takes SEVEN attempts to quit fully.

I do think that your decision may change if something happens. No matter what the cause, seeing a family member suffering and in pain is hard. In the end it is ya'lls decision. The only thing I am trying to point out is that it isnt as easy as just quiting. Your mom has to want to quit for herself. And even then it can be VERY VERY hard

From someone that smokes (even the little bit I do these days... I have cut way back)
THAT IS SO STUPID AND INSANE! :vent
I know its not the best thing for me so it's my stupidity! I think its insane to even think you could get a dime out of someone for smoking... I think everyone in this country at the least knows what smoking can do...
Thats like sueing McDonalds for making you gain alot of weight... eventhough you ate Big Macs and Large Fries everyday for a year! :rolleyes

With that said I would not "not" care for an ailing member of my family that had cancer or what have you from long term smoking... Yea they should have quit, easier said than done. My sister smokes like a burning building. And if something were to happen to her due to that, I would be by her side taking care of her till the end. I wouldn't throw it into her face because Im sure she wouldn't need a health lesson at this point. I would love her and take care of her.... just my opinion

Smoking is VERY addictive. The only way I was able to quit is because of this baby growing inside me. And you know what. Some days I think a lot about smoking after she is born. I wouldnt do it around her but I would damn well go outside. Its an addiction that never goes away.

I also would not refuse to care for a family member that smoked and got sick. Yeah its their fault that they smoked but especially my mom or dad I would take care of them. They took care of me my whole life.