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edited to add another question although I just wanted to debate the topic in general because no matter what question goes in here... the debate will evolve, I'm sure.

If a girl ends up pregnant while in high school, should she be made to go to a special school? Why or why not?

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I thought they had a 3 pager on that earlier? Maybe that was somewhere else. LOL

I thought they had a 3 pager on that earlier? Maybe that was somewhere else. LOL

It was closed before many had a chance to participate.

Hmm.. teenage pregnancy is the result of unprotected sex.

So con-fuzzled. :(

What am I debating?! Haha.

Ok here is a question.

If a girl ends up pregnant while in high school, should she be made to go to a special school? Why or why not?

Hmm I don't think she should be 'made' persay... but if it's either a special school or being kicked all together- then yes.

There are a few around here that I know of, and the teen mums love it! The teachers are really helpful and flexible, they provide daycare etc etc.. so being made to go to one wouldn't be all that bad.

Your feelings on it, whatever. The debate was ended before everyone could reply. I won't be closing it so it can be fully discussed.

No, I don't think she should be forced to go to a special school.

When I was in high school my best friend got pregnant, she was in all AP classes, and remained in AP classes, and did really good in them and finished out until graduation. At my school pregnant girls were allowed to stay in their regular classes, but if they had the baby mid-school year they were required to go to summer school or make it up in night school if they wanted to finish out their school year and get their high school degree, which I think is a good way to run things.

In my opinion, a baby is a miracle, and if it happens it happens. I don't think pregnant teenaged girls should be shielded from society and kept in special class rooms away from all the other kids who weren't pregnant. It's sad to say, but sometimes s*it happens. I don't think they should be kept from their regular education, and I think they should be allowed to still have access to things such as AP and accelerated classes. JMO.

I don't think a pregnant teen couple (mom and dad) should be forced to go to an alternate school. IMO, it's a way of hiding them for their actions and I don't think that's right. I think they should be allowed to have a choice if they want to continue going to the regular school or a special school if one is available.

I am torn. One one hand I don't think it's fair that they should have to go to a special school just because they are pregnant, it's a baby not a disease but on the other hand I totally see why they should because you certainly don't want the other kids thinking that being a teenage mom is "cool".

Ok here is a question.

If a girl ends up pregnant while in high school, should she be made to go to a special school? Why or why not?

No, not MADE to. I will say however, that alternative schools are better for a teen mother. I went to an experimental online charter school in high school and there were a lot of preggos or new moms going there because they could STAY HOME and be IN CLASS with their kid right there. You could record the class and play it back later, which would be handy when the kid went to bed. It was pretty awesome. It was also a way better education with more advanced classes and one on one time with teachers/tutors than the schools I've attended.

No, I wasn't one of the preggos.

I don't think there should be any forcing going on. I think they should be give the decision for themselves. These schools for mums have things regular schools don't so there is a reason to consider, however- I can't see a reason to force.

I think it's really neat that the special schools y'all are talking about for parents are actually pro-motherhood and help them out.

In our neighboring school they made the pregnant girls pretty much "Drop out," then they could attend a special class to get their diploma, but were not allowed to walk, or be a functioning part (go to prom, operation graduation, etc) with their senior class..

If its an OPTION open to the mom and she CHOOSES to go thats fine. Being made to go no I dont agree with. Pregnancy is NOT an illness and it shouldnt be hiden away.

Ok I think that she should have the choice to go or to stay in the school she gose to. I don't think it is right to make she hide from every one else. I had My oldest DD at 16. Yes I wish I had her when I was older. But I would not some one to make me go to a special school.And if you are going to make her go. Then why not the father to. She didn't make the baby by her self.

No, I don't think she should be "forced" to go to a special school. When I was in high school there was plenty of pregnant girls, many of them graduated with honors, etc. Just because they messed up and got knocked up doesn't mean they should be segregated into another facility.
Now, our high school offered a daycare, so that teen parents could attend regular school, and not have to miss classes due to having no one to care for their children. They also offered shortened days and special absences so they could attend their prenatal appointments and birth classes, etc. I think the high school I attended was very pro-active in making sure these girls got the same education opportunity as everyone else, I'm sure not every campus does that for their students.
There was also a special campus students could *choose* to attend. It was a half day school, not only open to pregnant teens, but also those who had gotten in trouble at the regular schools, or for some other reason needed specialized attention. But it was completely optional.

though it's not hte ideal i would hope that the girl would step up and be a mom or make a good decision for her and the baby. also as for the should they have to go to special schools i think they should do what my district did. they sent them to regular high school that had a daycare center on campus for those who were teen parents and they required the electives to be parenting (CPR, first aid, feeding, diapering, etc) classes

Hmm.. teenage pregnancy is the result of unprotected sex.

Is it? Can you back this up 100%? The reason I ask is because my bestfriend got pregnant at 16 while on the pill. Unfortuantly the ONLY sure fire way to NOT get pregnant is to NOT have sex. NO birth control is 100%. Ever.

As for going to a special school I think thats a cop out quite honestly. Where I grew up, kids got pregnant, were made to go to the alternative school, and there were still just as much pregnancies but MORE drop outs. NOW they actually have daycares in some of the high schools. At first I thought this was ridiculous until I saw the statistics. there were LESS dropouts. More kids were getting their diplomas.

Teenage sex is going to happen. That is NEVER going to change. And Pregnancy is going to happen. That will NEVER change. As long as teens are having sex there will be pregnancy. The goal should be to keep them in school and educated. This helps to give them a chance and off welfare because of getting that education and being able to find work easier etc

There is no easy fix to the problem and you cannot stop it. The best thing we can do is try to find ways to better the situation as much as possible and edcuation is the first step

No, I don't think pregnant girls need to be hidden away. I already said my piece in the other thread. I will copy & paste laterz.

OH OK I will say why:

Education is the best way to help solve this issue. Most teenagers do not understand HOW their body works. They also suffer from the misconception that "it can't happen to me." (most not all) Many parents do not address sex, reproduction, BC, the consequences of having sex, & how it is a life altering decision no matter if you get an STD or become pregnant. If we educated them correctly about how their bodies work and that yes it CAN happen & that babies are forever it might help stop teen pregnancies. Or at the least make the amount smaller. Also goes for STD's like I said earlier MANY teenagers do not think that oral IS sex. Education is the key.

Best way to prevent teen pregnancy:

Take one aspirin a day.















Hold it between your knees.

I don't think that they should be made to go to an "alternative" school..

I went to Catholic school and we had several girls who got pregnant and they were allowed to continue going.. I am not familiar with the public school system though.. I think what you ladies were mentioning about the daycares on campus is a great idea..

I don't think that they should be made to go to an "alternative" school..

I went to Catholic school and we had several girls who got pregnant and they were allowed to continue going.. I am not familiar with the public school system though.. I think what you ladies were mentioning about the daycares on campus is a great idea..

we had several campuses in our district so the campus with the least zoned there got to be the daycare center school

I don't agree with forcing them to only take electives that revolve around parenting either. No person KNOWS how to be a mom, if they are going to force teenage mothers to take all of those courses then they should force ALL mothers too. They should be allowed to take their regular classes so that they can get into college, and in order to get the really good scholarships you need good electives. That can be compared to other students in the running for the same scholarship.

No. I don't think she should have to go to a seperate school.
We went to a tech highschool and it was optional to leave any of the schools and go to Teen Parenting to finish up. Some did because they offered the parenting classes on top of the normal schooling.
My best friend got pregnant the end of our Jr year and had her son November of our Sr year. She was never made to go to a different school and I think it would be callous to force them to go. It should be a personal decision. She graduated with great grades and an amazing son. Having her and 2 of my other close friends pregnant also(there was about 6 I think) in class with the rest of us didn't cause an issue... what would be the issue. They don't need a reminder thrown into their face that they are teenage mothers. No one prays their daughter gets pregnant at 16 or so but if it happens then we deal with it. It doesnt' do anyone any good to dwell on why oh why it happened to my kid. We need to support them through it and tell them we love them and hope they can be amazing parents. And I wouldn't kick my daughter out if she got pregnant. Would I be thrilled? No. But, I would be there for her and help her. I wouldn't allow her to forego her responsibilities but I would help her and coach her any way I could.

I don't agree with forcing them to only take electives that revolve around parenting either. No person KNOWS how to be a mom, if they are going to force teenage mothers to take all of those courses then they should force ALL mothers too. They should be allowed to take their regular classes so that they can get into college, and in order to get the really good scholarships you need good electives. That can be compared to other students in the running for the same scholarship.

i agree but i think their logic is that teens are such a high risk group for things like abuse and neglect because they just don't know kwim? and studies have shown that their impulse control isn't as developed as adults. i think that SOME of their electives should be parenting related.

Nope. I've known plently of responsible teenagers who got pregnant, finished near the top of their class, got a job and fully supported themselves and the baby. They shouldn't be isolated.

in my high school they didint support teenage pregnancy but they had a day care on campus and specail "meetings: for pregnant teens but they had complaints about the schools morals and they dont have the day care anymore (my sisiter goes to school there now thats how i know) but i dont think they should go to another school, but its there choice.

What would be considered a special school?

I went to a high school that had a child care facility for the teenage moms. I thought it was great because they didn't have to drop out because of having a baby. They were able to continue their high school education and graduate with their class.

my mother became pregnant with me spring semester of her senior year. they let her stay and she graduated (they did make her drop colour guard though, but i'm sure that was for my safety). there wasn't an alternative school, of course, at that time; but they also didn't want to see anyone drop out or be kicked out. fast forward about 18 years to the same high school. my cousin became pregnant december of our senior year. she was offered to be placed in the alternative school but chose to tough it out and face the challenges and possible scrutiny. i could see how it affected her over the months. honestly, it did her a lot of good and she became a stronger person for it. one of the reasons she chose to stay in the regular high school is because the alternative school for our area is also for "delinquents" and the like, not just pregnant teens and teenage mothers. it's not a great option for all and should not be forced.

I don't think they should be forced to go to a diffeent school.

I still kind of have mixed feelings about the daycares in schools.. but I know it's a good thing for a lot of teen moms.

My mom got pregnant for my older sister when she was in 7th grade (she had stayed back a few times due to being a really sick kid so she was 14 in 7th grade) because that was back in 1973 she was forced out of school with only a 7th grade education. Luckily my mom did what she had to do as an adult and is a real estate agent now.

No a girl should not be made to go to a special school if she winds up pregnant. Methinks we have a Bree VanDecamp reincarnate? :ninja

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ETA -

I don't think they need to be hidden away for what some may consider a horrible choice or a bad decision. There are so may horrible choices and bad decisions to be made by teenagers...getting pregnant while in high school is just one of them. This isn't the fifties...

Hell no they are having a baby not a disease that will eat others flesh...I think that its wrong to hide it.

I don't think they should be forced to go to a diffeent school.

I still kind of have mixed feelings about the daycares in schools.. but I know it's a good thing for a lot of teen moms.

My mom got pregnant for my older sister when she was in 7th grade (she had stayed back a few times due to being a really sick kid so she was 14 in 7th grade) because that was back in 1973 she was forced out of school with only a 7th grade education. Luckily my mom did what she had to do as an adult and is a real estate agent now.

I am not sure about the rest of highschools but the one I went to had a daycare and it was a class that the students could take. It would get you credits toward your HS degree and it would also count toward ECE hours for girls who were going that route. I think it is a fantastic idea!

well we had a few girls in my class way back in 1980 that were pregnant who were teens and they didnt go to a special school. I dont see why they should have to go to a special school. I think that they should be able to finish their education. I am not condoning it but I wouldnt want them to not finish high school either. I also dont necessarily think its sending a statement saying that teen pregnancy is cool either. It might for some but for others it would be lesson of what not to do. It also depends on your religious upbringing to. Just from my religious views personally sex before marriage no matter how old you are is wrong in the eyes of God if you believe in God that is. Alot of people will disagree with me on this and that is their right and I dont have a problem if they disagree with me on this either but this is just my personal viewpoint on this subject.

I also had gotten pregnant after I graduated high school and I was only 19 but I gave the baby up for adoption because I knew that I couldnt take care of a child and I thought it was an act of love to put her with 2 loving parents that could provide for her better than I could and I knew that God would bless me later in life and I would get married and have more children which I did. I thought that at that time that adoption was the best choice to make.

Anyway I didnt mean to go on that long but I was just putting in my views.

IMO teenage pregnancy is becoming to common, and that the schools and parents should both be more proactive instead of reactive about the situation.

As for if someone gets pregnant while in high school, I don't feel they should be sent somewhere else because if they stay in school than they are showing 1 a lot of courage, 2 strength to get through the hard times, 3 the maturity to know what is important.

What's the alternative to daycare in schools? Teen moms dropping out. Not worth it to me :no

What's the alternative to daycare in schools? Teen moms dropping out. Not worth it to me :no

Right and then they will be on welfare their whole lives because they cant provide for their kids.

It's more prudent to HELP them to get educated than not.

I will quote myself from the other thread because it is excatly how i feel about this topic...

sorry to me it's not condoning nor condeming. It's showing REALITY. In REALITY teens get pregnant. In REALITY teens face being condemed by people who look down on them because of either their stupidity or an accident with faulty birth control. Either way it's still a REALITY.

And this is coming from a TEEN parent.

What's the alternative to daycare in schools? Teen moms dropping out. Not worth it to me :no

At my high school we had a teen parent center and still do. The waiting list was FOREVER because we had girls trying to transfer from as far as Fallbrook and San Ysidro to get in.

We had teachers, the building was split in two rooms. First half was the "daycare" the second half was the classroom. We were all required to do homestudy as well as take 1 to 4 mainstream classes. It was nice to be able to go to school, take your baby be allowed to escape from the realities of being a parent and enjoy being a teen for an hour a day on campus.

I think she should have a choice..and I think the guy who did it should have a choice at the special school as well :P it's only fair.

I am not sure about the rest of highschools but the one I went to had a daycare and it was a class that the students could take. It would get you credits toward your HS degree and it would also count toward ECE hours for girls who were going that route. I think it is a fantastic idea!

Now see we had that too but it was a ESS service that parents in the community could use. Just like any other daycare. And we earned ECC's by taking the child care class. That was ENTIRELY different from the TPC (teen parent center) at my school.

No she shouldnt be forced that's discrimination and I think it's wrong. If there was a school that would better accomadate her and she wanted to go to it, that would b different..I dont think that someone should make u do that if u dont want to

see in my district we had only one school for teen moms (and fathers if they so chose to go) that was a regular high school, regular students went there too and i don't think it was mandatory to go there during your pregnancy but you had to be enrolled there after you had the baby so your child could go to the daycare.

No not forced. It should be a choice.

see in my district we had only one school for teen moms (and fathers if they so chose to go) that was a regular high school, regular students went there too and i don't think it was mandatory to go there during your pregnancy but you had to be enrolled there after you had the baby so your child could go to the daycare.

Did they HAVE to be enrolled there (or was it in order to use the daycare they had to enroll in that school) if they had other child care arrangements in place could they stay in a reg school? Because tere is a big differance between if you want to use the daycare you have to go here & your child has to go to this daycare & you have to go to this school.

Did they HAVE to be enrolled there (or was it in order to use the daycare they had to enroll in that school) if they had other child care arrangements in place could they stay in a reg school? Because tere is a big differance between if you want to use the daycare you have to go here & your child has to go to this daycare & you have to go to this school.

in order to use the onsite daycare they had to be enrolled there

I do NOT think she should be made to go to a different or "special" school. There were a few pregnant girls during my junior/senior year of high school. One of them I had for English and History. I got to be pretty close to her throughout of classes and even went to her baby shower.

Her pregnancy was a real eye opener for me!!!!!! With that said, pregnant girls staying in regular schools may also be a REAL eye opener to many others...

Not forced, just because they got pregnant doesn't mean they can't finish school. My mom had me at 16, she went to school until she was 36 weeks a long, then she went to summer school to make up for the time she took off after I was born. My mom graduated with everyone else in her class.

I think it is very important to keep pregnant girls/ expecting fathers is school and to treat them like everyone else. They have a child depending on them for the next 18 years.

One of my best friends had a baby shy of her 16 birthday, it was such an eye opener , at school during lunch break she always had to go straight to the daycare while rest of us sat around and had fun. On the weekends she couldn't have fun with us, I felt bad for her and told myself I never want to be a teen mother.

At my high school we had a teen parent center and still do. The waiting list was FOREVER because we had girls trying to transfer from as far as Fallbrook and San Ysidro to get in.

We had teachers, the building was split in two rooms. First half was the "daycare" the second half was the classroom. We were all required to do homestudy as well as take 1 to 4 mainstream classes. It was nice to be able to go to school, take your baby be allowed to escape from the realities of being a parent and enjoy being a teen for an hour a day on campus.

What school did you go to?

No, I don't think girls who get pregnant in high school need to be sent away to a different school. They need to be encouraged and educated! These girls get scared and alot of them drop out of school because they don't think they can finish. There are schools that have programs for pregnant or teenage mothers. But by pushing a pregnant teenager out of school is telling her, you messed up now go deal with it elsewhere. WRONG MESSAGE!

Education about pregnancy and STD's in the first place, IMO, might cut down on the teen pregnancy rate. Parents teaching their children MORALS and VALUES would help too!

No I don't think they should be sent to a special school. I know at my high school there was a day care on the campus where the teenage mothers could leave their children. They were also required to take parenting classes and work in the day care with the children there.

Truth be had I think teenage pregnancy is a saddening, I don't think children should be having sex but if it happens I like seeing programs out there like what my school had. I admire the young ladies who can still educate themselves and go through college being a teen mother. My cousin had a baby her senior year, finished high school, finished college, married a great guy and is now a teacher.

Why? Because family and others were willing to help out and encourage her. I babysat her son quite a bit in college so she could go to classes, basketball practice, etc. I don't think teen mothers need to be punished, they need to face the consequences but know that their lives aren't over.