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ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 10:34 AM
:confusedOk, Andy's telling me he's depressed and he sounds kinda bad. He's deployed for another probably 5 months and this is his first one. He's been on sleeping pills and is scheduled to see a psychiatrist. These were his words "the doctor prescribed me ambien, the sleeping pill because im so stress out about you and the baby that i cant sleep at night. And i havent seen the psychiatrist yet but i will on the 23rd because of depression. I have fallen deep into depression, and its hard to get through the day." I know the only thing I can do is try to comfort him through my emails, but I'm really worried.

Caimbrie
08-10-2007, 10:41 AM
I don't know what his rate is or anything but if he is on a sub or is a nuke he'll lose those :(

I hope he gets better.

Kris
08-10-2007, 10:43 AM
I am glad he is getting help, but as for you helping him just try to talk with him try to support him. I am here if you ever need to talk

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 10:45 AM
What will he lose the sleeping pills?

Caimbrie
08-10-2007, 10:49 AM
What will he lose the sleeping pills?


No, sleeping pills and anti-depressants, if they are given to them, those are something that will make the Navy consider them not fit for sub duty, and they can be disqualified subs, which means they will be surface.

Nukes can't be on any kind of sleeping pills or anti-depressants because of the nature of thier job, if they need them, they lose nuke.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 10:53 AM
Oh ok.

Caimbrie
08-10-2007, 10:55 AM
Oh ok.


What kind of job does he do? Is he on a sub?

I really am sorry that he is having such a tough time. When you talk to him just try to be supportive and tell him you're there for him.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 10:57 AM
He is an AT I believe thats what its called on a ship. I'm trying to support him by giving him as much info about whats going on with the baby and my pregnancy so he won't feel left out.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 03:39 PM
What will happen if he doesnt get past this depression?

Victoria
08-10-2007, 03:41 PM
He should see the ship chaplain!

rosebud*
08-10-2007, 03:43 PM
What will happen if he doesnt get past this depression?
he could possibly be discharged.. Also he can loose his ablity to deploy.. DH has said that if you regularly take anti depressants you can become a danger to yourself and others when you are on ship. ( because you can stop taking them and there is no way to monitor you) and therefore become non-deployable.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 03:47 PM
Oh man, am I worried now because I know hes going to be put on medication not only for sleeping pills but depression too. I hope they help him because I can't.

MIKOSWIFEY
08-10-2007, 04:00 PM
Maybe if you tried to reassure him that you and the baby are safe, ok, and happy and nothing is going wrong at all it would help. If it's clinical depression I'm not sure if anything you actually DO will help, just the meds. :hugehug

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 04:10 PM
No I know he is bipolar, I'm not sure if his depression has anything to do with it. He knows we are fine, I email him almost twice everyday sending him pictures and updates of everything. I think its only because he won't be here for the birth.

Rileysmom
08-10-2007, 04:12 PM
No I know he is bipolar, I'm not sure if his depression has anything to do with it. He knows we are fine, I email him almost twice everyday sending him pictures and updates of everything. I think its only because he won't be here for the birth.

:confuzzle If he is diagnosed as bipolar, he needs to be taking meds. Is this your diagnosis or a doctor's? Depression is part of being bipolar. Does the ship know this?

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 04:34 PM
He was diagnosed about a few weeks before he left for deployment but, he hasnt gotten any medication for it.

Caimbrie
08-10-2007, 04:44 PM
If its that bad he may end up getting discharged.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 04:48 PM
I think its bad so far, hes only been in the navy a year and hes already had a minor heart attack, bipolar and a panic attack, maybe he should be home. If it is bad enough, I hope they find out and do whats best for him.

Rileysmom
08-10-2007, 04:48 PM
I didn't think that they allowed him in the Navy if he was bipolar? I know you can't usually get IN the military if you are bipolar.

rosebud*
08-10-2007, 04:52 PM
I didn't think that they allowed him in the Navy if he was bipolar? I know you can't usually get IN the military if you are bipolar.
I think so too.. dh is doing recruiting and being diagnosed before navy is a major disqualifier.


I think its bad so far, hes only been in the navy a year and hes already had a minor heart attack, bipolar and a panic attack, maybe he should be home. If it is bad enough, I hope they find out and do whats best for him.
Wow, that is a lot of trauma for him to have in less than a year.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 04:59 PM
We didnt know about this bipolar until like 2 months ago, I don't know why they didnt test him for it because I wish they would have, it would have helped to know that he was bipolar earlier. Yeah I know it is alot.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 08:10 PM
Hey whats sub disqualified and how do they determine if your sent home or not. Is the sub also a ship because thats what hes on.

Rileysmom
08-10-2007, 08:20 PM
Who diagnosed him as bipolar? Was it before or after he left for deployment. They will more than likely separate him from the Navy altogether if he is indeed bipolar, I think it's b/c of the drugs often required for it. They don't usually send him home b/c he is depressed though, if that's what you are getting at. If that's the case, we would have probably 1/2 as many guys out there than there are now.

Tell him to talk to the Chaplain, find links to stress relievers, keep emailing him, send him care packages.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 08:31 PM
ill ignore that

Rileysmom
08-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Huh? Ignore what?

Rileysmom
08-10-2007, 08:33 PM
Hey whats sub disqualified and how do they determine if your sent home or not. Is the sub also a ship because thats what hes on.

A sub and a ship are different. Sub goes underwater and a ship stays above water. What ship is he on? The Enterprise? That's a ship.

ShandyPierre
08-10-2007, 08:48 PM
yes the enterprise

*Christy6*
08-10-2007, 08:50 PM
Who diagnosed him as bipolar? Was it before or after he left for deployment. They will more than likely separate him from the Navy altogether if he is indeed bipolar, I think it's b/c of the drugs often required for it. They don't usually send him home b/c he is depressed though, if that's what you are getting at. If that's the case, we would have probably 1/2 as many guys out there than there are now.

Tell him to talk to the Chaplain, find links to stress relievers, keep emailing him, send him care packages.

We wouldnt have anyone manning the boats would we?

rosebud*
08-10-2007, 09:03 PM
If he is diagnosed as bipolar, by the navy, he should be allowed finish off his time on shore duty but he will be catagorized as non deployable.. Which also means he won't be allowed to re-enlist. Although after talking with my dh, he mentioned that they might just cut him loose all together because he has had a lot happen to him in such a short amount of time.

Caimbrie
08-10-2007, 09:27 PM
yes the enterprise


The Enterprise is an Aircraft Carrier. That is a surface ship, he doesnt have to worry about being disqualified subs since he isn't a submariner anyway.

Caimbrie
08-10-2007, 09:36 PM
I'm just a little curious... ya'll are married.. How do you not know what KIND of ship he is on? There is a huge difference between a surface ship and a sub. I guess I am just taken back by you now even knowing what your husband is on :puzz

But regardless... He needs to talk with the chaplain if it is that serious. I hope ya'll arent trying to use this to get him out of deployment though, because that can cause a huge headache with him being involunarily separated quickly and leaving ya'll with no income.

Jo
08-11-2007, 06:35 AM
Shandi~If he was diagnosed as being bi-polar, why didn't they put him on medication before he left? When doctors diagnose you with something, they give you the prescription at the same appointment.

Allen has his good days and his bad days, but he keeps himself busy by throwing himself into his job (he's a div O in maintenance so it requires alot of time 16+ hour days) and working out.

I can't imagine not getting depressed out there, but he should try to focus on something else and not so much on how terrible it is. He needs to focus on what it's going to feel like when they are steaming across the atlantic on their way home!! That is such a happy time, when that boat starts coming across-knowing that we are waiting here for them.

Send him tons of care packages, letters, emails, cards, videos and wav files-to help him get through his days.

They won't send him home because of depression, but they will have him attend counseling sessions with a doctor or chaplain.

Dragonfly76
08-11-2007, 06:57 AM
No I know he is bipolar, I'm not sure if his depression has anything to do with it.

If he is Bipolar then he should have been placed on Mood Stablizers ie Lithium or Depakote and if he's not taking his medications then he can become suicidal.

mek2004
08-11-2007, 08:58 AM
Aircraft carriers such as the Enterprise have an entire medical complement, meaning they have psychologists and doctor's on board who are able to perscribe antdepressants and mood stabilizers. Needless to say, these doctors get VERY busy during deployments so that is probably why he is not seeing anyone until the 23rd.

You can tell him if he feels things are getting worse to head straight to Medical and let them know, or let his Chief or LPO know he needs help immediately.

ShandyPierre
08-12-2007, 10:25 PM
I'm just a little curious... ya'll are married.. How do you not know what KIND of ship he is on? There is a huge difference between a surface ship and a sub. I guess I am just taken back by you now even knowing what your husband is on :puzz

But regardless... He needs to talk with the chaplain if it is that serious. I hope ya'll arent trying to use this to get him out of deployment though, because that can cause a huge headache with him being involunarily separated quickly and leaving ya'll with no income.


Andy says he won't be able to see a psychiatrist till the 23rd. I have no idea why he isnt on medication. I gave everyone here all the info I had, we were seperated at the time. I knew what he was on but, I wanted to make sure when she said subdisqualified, she actually meant submarine. I am new to these navy terms. It's so wrong of you to form judgements about people so quickly when you don't know anything about the situation or the person. We are not trying to get him out of deployment, I had almost no info to go off of, that was very wrong of you to assume that. Shame on you.:vent

*pinkie*
08-12-2007, 10:29 PM
its really hard on first time fathers going on their first deployment..just reassure him as much as you can,..send pics..send packages...lethim know that you and the baby are doing fine.. its best that he gets some help..maybe some peace of mind. I hope everything works out ok :hug

ShandyPierre
08-12-2007, 10:39 PM
Thank you, I will do all of that.

Jo
08-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Shaunie~Keep your chin up and he'll be fine! If you need anything, please let me know. :)

MontanaSweetie
08-12-2007, 10:45 PM
Andy says he won't be able to see a psychiatrist till the 23rd. I have no idea why he isnt on medication. I gave everyone here all the info I had, we were seperated at the time. I knew what he was on but, I wanted to make sure when she said subdisqualified, she actually meant submarine. I am new to these navy terms. It's so wrong of you to form judgements about people so quickly when you don't know anything about the situation or the person. We are not trying to get him out of deployment, I had almost no info to go off of, that was very wrong of you to assume that. Shame on you.:vent

She could only go off of what you were saying, and not knowing if your husband is on a ship or sub is rather odd. I don't think she has anything to be ashamed of, since IMO, it was a legitimate question.

Caimbrie
08-12-2007, 10:49 PM
Andy says he won't be able to see a psychiatrist till the 23rd. I have no idea why he isnt on medication. I gave everyone here all the info I had, we were seperated at the time. I knew what he was on but, I wanted to make sure when she said subdisqualified, she actually meant submarine. I am new to these navy terms. It's so wrong of you to form judgements about people so quickly when you don't know anything about the situation or the person. We are not trying to get him out of deployment, I had almost no info to go off of, that was very wrong of you to assume that. Shame on you.:vent

I wasn't even saying that to be mean or rude, but the whole thing seams odd to me. You are right, I DON'T know everything and I was just asking questions and giving advice based on what I've read here. I'm not making any judgements at all. I didn't even say you WERE trying to get him out of deployment, I was just saying I hope that wasn't the case.

ShandyPierre
08-12-2007, 10:50 PM
No, I think she should because if you dont know something, you shouldn't assume anything you should ask questions, if it matters that much. Instead of assuming we wanted to get out of deployment and assuming I didn't know if he was on a sub or ship, why not ask. I knew he was on a ship but I didn't know what sub stood for, I didnt know it meant submarine.

Caimbrie
08-12-2007, 10:53 PM
No, I think she should because if you dont know something, you shouldn't assume anything you should ask questions, if it matters that much. Instead of assuming we wanted to get out of deployment and assuming I didn't know if he was on a sub or ship, why not ask. I knew he was on a ship but I didn't know what sub stood for, I didnt know it meant submarine.

Sub doesn't stand for anything else in the Navy...

I didn't assume anything.. I DID ask questions....

ShandyPierre
08-12-2007, 10:55 PM
ok well im done with this thread

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 10:40 AM
If he is Bipolar then he should have been placed on Mood Stablizers ie Lithium or Depakote and if he's not taking his medications then he can become suicidal.

Ugh! There are much better bi-polar meds other than Lithium......my SIL was put on Lithium and it was horrible. I hate how everyone is like "He or she is crazy, put them on Lithium" She is now no longer able to have kids (also it made her gain 70 pounds in a short period). She demanded to be put on something else and is now doing well on Abilify.

Anyway, I'm sorry girl, that you are going through all of this. I know you are trying your best...hang in there!

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 10:42 AM
Sub doesn't stand for anything else in the Navy...

I didn't assume anything.. I DID ask questions....

Oh gosh.....leave her alone...she is going through a rough time and she is new to all of this military lingo! Hell I didn't know what a cutter was until I saw it (it's a ship by the way).

Caimbrie
08-13-2007, 10:47 AM
Oh gosh.....leave her alone...she is going through a rough time and she is new to all of this military lingo! Hell I didn't know what a cutter was until I saw it (it's a ship by the way).


I wasn't even giving her a hard time :rolleyes Are people seriously that bored they have to LOOK for something to bitch about? Come on now. I wasn't even giving her a hard time... I wasn't being mean.

mrsjones0520
08-13-2007, 10:52 AM
Abilify is a very good bipolar medication-my mom's bipolar, and as long as she stays medicated, then she has no problems. I've taken Ambien and it really helped me fall asleep(that's all it does unless it's CR-control release). But I definately think he should see the Chaplin on the ship or whareever he's at-he might just need someone to talk to about dealing with everything at once. IF it's more then that, the chaplin will advise him on how to keep his career and his health-you wouldn't believe what a chaplin can accomplish. I hope you guys get everything figured out!!!! If he does get discharged for some reason, I'm sure that you guys can find something else. Good luck and let me know if you need anything!!! PM me if you have questions about being bipolar

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 10:54 AM
I wasn't even giving her a hard time :rolleyes Are people seriously that bored they have to LOOK for something to bitch about? Come on now. I wasn't even giving her a hard time... I wasn't being mean.

I have only been on for a short time and I saw this and wanted to read it because I have been talking to her other than here to help her out. So it's not like I came on here looking to bitch so throw that out the window. And you did give her a hard time, stating that you hope this isn't a way to get out of a deployment and making her feel dumb for not understanding what "sub" means. For once can't you just say, I'm sorry for what you are going through and we are here for you.....and leave it at that!

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 10:55 AM
Abilify is a very good bipolar medication-my mom's bipolar, and as long as she stays medicated, then she has no problems. I've taken Ambien and it really helped me fall asleep(that's all it does unless it's CR-control release). But I definately think he should see the Chaplin on the ship or whareever he's at-he might just need someone to talk to about dealing with everything at once. IF it's more then that, the chaplin will advise him on how to keep his career and his health-you wouldn't believe what a chaplin can accomplish. I hope you guys get everything figured out!!!! If he does get discharged for some reason, I'm sure that you guys can find something else. Good luck and let me know if you need anything!!! PM me if you have questions about being bipolar

Agreed.....my SIL has been doing great on it. Oh and I really think talking to the Chaplin is a good idea....that is what my DH did after he had his alcohol incident.

Caimbrie
08-13-2007, 10:59 AM
I have only been on for a short time and I saw this and wanted to read it because I have been talking to her other than here to help her out. So it's not like I came on here looking to bitch so throw that out the window. And you did give her a hard time, stating that you hope this isn't a way to get out of a deployment and making her feel dumb for not understanding what "sub" means. For once can't you just say, I'm sorry for what you are going through and we are here for you.....and leave it at that!


I did give her support. Look at her other thread. I support a LOT of people here.

I didn't say she was dumb. I didnt realize she didn't understand what SUB (I didn't think it was that difficult to understand) meant, the way I took it was she didnt know what he was on. I misunderstood her apparently. I didn't call her stupid, I didnt infer she was stupid and I didn't think she was stupid. I wasn't even the only person who took it that way. Also, I wasn't accusing her of anything either, I was making an informative statement and I wasn't even being mean about it.

Ya'll are already bitching about me in private messages so why come on here to jump to her defense when I am an not even attacking her. Stop trying to read something into what I said that isn't there.

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 11:03 AM
I did give her support. Look at her other thread. I support a LOT of people here.

I didn't say she was dumb. I didnt realize she didn't understand what SUB (I didn't think it was that difficult to understand) meant, the way I took it was she didnt know what he was on. I misunderstood her apparently. I didn't call her stupid, I didnt infer she was stupid and I didn't think she was stupid. I wasn't even the only person who took it that way. Also, I wasn't accusing her of anything either, I was making an informative statement and I wasn't even being mean about it.

Ya'll are already bitching about me in private messages so why come on here to jump to ger defense when I am an not even attacking her. Stop trying to read something into what I said that isn't there.

:nutts Oh geez....what do you mean bitching about you in private messages? She isn't even signed on to Yahoo so I'm not even talking to her right now. Get over yourself.

Caimbrie
08-13-2007, 11:05 AM
:nutts Oh geez....what do you mean bitching about you in private messages? She isn't even signed on to Yahoo so I'm not even talking to her right now. Get over yourself.

:lol you just said you were talking to her. Whatever Crystal, you're trying to find a reason to argue with me and it's pointless.

goldilockz
08-13-2007, 11:07 AM
Holy crap, now we're not allowed to ask questions for clarification when we don't know what someone is talking about?

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 11:08 AM
:lol you just said you were talking to her. Whatever Crystal, you're trying to find a reason to argue with me and it's pointless.

I said I have been talking to her...like in the past when she 1st posted about the whole thing with her hubby. How can I be talking to her now and she isn't even on :dunno

MissAmyB
08-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Nukes can't be on any kind of sleeping pills or anti-depressants because of the nature of thier job, if they need them, they lose nuke.


Haven't read very many posts, so I don't know if it's even applicable, but this is NOT true. I was on a sleeping pill and an antidepressant WHILE UNDERWAY and there was no discussion whatsoever about de-nuking me. If they had worked, the doc on board was content to keep me on them indefinately. Just wanted to reassure the OP.

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 11:10 AM
I have only been on for a short time and I saw this and wanted to read it because I have been talking to her other than here to help her out. So it's not like I came on here looking to bitch so throw that out the window. And you did give her a hard time, stating that you hope this isn't a way to get out of a deployment and making her feel dumb for not understanding what "sub" means. For once can't you just say, I'm sorry for what you are going through and we are here for you.....and leave it at that!

Past tense!

Caimbrie
08-13-2007, 11:11 AM
I said I have been talking to her...like in the past when she 1st posted about the whole thing with her hubby. How can I be talking to her now and she isn't even on :dunno

Going back to edit your response to me doesn't chage the fact that you werent clear in what you said. omfg grow up.

Caimbrie
08-13-2007, 11:12 AM
Haven't read very many posts, so I don't know if it's even applicable, but this is NOT true. I was on a sleeping pill and an antidepressant WHILE UNDERWAY and there was no discussion whatsoever about de-nuking me. If they had worked, the doc on board was content to keep me on them indefinately. Just wanted to reassure the OP.

I was only referring to Subs, because I didnt know what her husband was on at the time :)

MissAmyB
08-13-2007, 11:18 AM
No, sleeping pills and anti-depressants, if they are given to them, those are something that will make the Navy consider them not fit for sub duty, and they can be disqualified subs, which means they will be surface.

Nukes can't be on any kind of sleeping pills or anti-depressants because of the nature of thier job, if they need them, they lose nuke.

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought since you said specifically that NUKES can't be on anything, I wanted to reassure the OP that this was not true. As I read, I realize it didn't matter since her hubby is an AT, not a nuke, but someone else's hubby might be and don't want anyone to needless worry.

Caimbrie
08-13-2007, 11:20 AM
Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought since you said specifically that NUKES can't be on anything, I wanted to reassure the OP that this was not true. As I read, I realize it didn't matter since her hubby is an AT, not a nuke, but someone else's hubby might be and don't want anyone to needless worry.


I understand :)

ChewiesBaby
08-13-2007, 11:20 AM
Jeez people... she was only trying to help her!!

Crystal520
08-13-2007, 11:21 AM
Going back to edit your response to me doesn't chage the fact that you werent clear in what you said. omfg grow up.

Uh...I hit edit instead of quote....sorry! Are you done thinking I am talking to her behind your back? Because I am not a liar and even when I do talk to her, I will not bring this up because she needs my support.

Caimbrie
08-13-2007, 11:35 AM
Uh...I hit edit instead of quote....sorry! Are you done thinking I am talking to her behind your back? Because I am not a liar and even when I do talk to her, I will not bring this up because she needs my support.


I... dont... care... if... you... talk... about... me... anyway...

You are the LAST thing on my mind darling, you are not worth the time it is taking me to type this nevermind my thoughts and worries. Just remember what you put out comes back three-fold. You can sit here and say I'm so awful but you're the one starting drama for no freaking reason.

tifflovezyou
08-13-2007, 11:37 AM
:drama :grouphug

Green~Mammy
08-13-2007, 12:25 PM
No I know he is bipolar, I'm not sure if his depression has anything to do with it. He knows we are fine, I email him almost twice everyday sending him pictures and updates of everything. I think its only because he won't be here for the birth.

Does the Navy know he is bipolar? If you are bipolar you are non-deployable & the meds that they give you for it cause you to be med boarded. That is why I am medically retired right now. I am bipolar & have PTSD a couple other small things but it was the bipolar that caused me to be discharged. I was never a danger to anyone & have never been committed it was strictly the meds & the fact that I can not deploy.

ShandyPierre
08-13-2007, 12:37 PM
Thank you guys for taking up for me, i just kinda felt slow for not knowing what sub was, I can't tell you if hes on a sub if I don't know what it is, thats what I was trying to say. No hard feelings towards anyone. Just to let everyone know Andy says they said they believe he is actually bipolar but, he won't be able to get treatment until they diagnose him on the 23rd. Right now we are just playing the waiting game and I am trying to make a back up plan just in case he does have to come home. It would be nice to have him home but, I'll still be fine if he doesn't, as long as he gets some help, thats my main concern and my pregnancy too of course. I don't think its serious enough for him to come home though but, Im not there so I can't say anything.

Mao
08-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Thank you guys for taking up for me, i just kinda felt slow for not knowing what sub was, I can't tell you if hes on a sub if I don't know what it is, thats what I was trying to say. No hard feelings towards anyone. Just to let everyone know Andy says they said they believe he is actually bipolar but, he won't be able to get treatment until they diagnose him on the 23rd. Right now we are just playing the waiting game and I am trying to make a back up plan just in case he does have to come home. It would be nice to have him home but, I'll still be fine if he doesn't, as long as he gets some help, thats my main concern and my pregnancy too of course. I don't think its serious enough for him to come home though but, Im not there so I can't say anything.

I'm sorry that you and your SO are going through so much right now. Try not to worry about the what-ifs - if he hasn't been diagnosed as bi-polar there's a chance that he might not be. He could just have reactional depression, which is quite common in his profession.

Ugh! There are much better bi-polar meds other than Lithium......my SIL was put on Lithium and it was horrible. I hate how everyone is like "He or she is crazy, put them on Lithium" She is now no longer able to have kids (also it made her gain 70 pounds in a short period). She demanded to be put on something else and is now doing well on Abilify.

Anyway, I'm sorry girl, that you are going through all of this. I know you are trying your best...hang in there!

Your SIL sounds like the exeception to the rule, as Lithium is generally the best medication for bi-polar disorder. And 'crazy' does not equal bi-polar, some people are crazy and not mentally ill at all! :lol

Dragonfly76
08-13-2007, 01:24 PM
Your SIL sounds like the exeception to the rule, as Lithium is generally the best medication for bi-polar disorder. And 'crazy' does not equal bi-polar, some people are crazy and not mentally ill at all! :lol

:yes

harrisonsdream
08-13-2007, 01:25 PM
I'm sorry that you and your SO are going through so much right now. Try not to worry about the what-ifs - if he hasn't been diagnosed as bi-polar there's a chance that he might not be. He could just have reactional depression, which is quite common in his profession.



Your SIL sounds like the exeception to the rule, as Lithium is generally the best medication for bi-polar disorder. And 'crazy' does not equal bi-polar, some people are crazy and not mentally ill at all! :lol

i've had a psychologist and pyschiatrist both tell me lithium isn't good except for EXTREME bi-polar. they are leaning towards trying anti-seizure medications to try for mild-moderate bipolar. i was on lamictal pre-pregnancy.

Mao
08-13-2007, 01:49 PM
i've had a psychologist and pyschiatrist both tell me lithium isn't good except for EXTREME bi-polar. they are leaning towards trying anti-seizure medications to try for mild-moderate bipolar. i was on lamictal pre-pregnancy.

They must be trying new things in the US then. I specialised in psychiatry and molecular neuropsychopharmacology and the BMJ has always stated that lithium is the best drug for bi-polar. Sometimes antipsychotics are used to stabilise the patient before he/she is put on lithium, as lithium is better at maintaining the status quo than at stabilising, but for the long term in the majority of patients lithium is the drug of choice.

harrisonsdream
08-13-2007, 02:00 PM
They must be trying new things in the US then. I specialised in psychiatry and molecular neuropsychopharmacology and the BMJ has always stated that lithium is the best drug for bi-polar. Sometimes antipsychotics are used to stabilise the patient before he/she is put on lithium, as lithium is better at maintaining the status quo than at stabilising, but for the long term in the majority of patients lithium is the drug of choice.

yeah they've discovered some undesirable side-effects apparently from people that were on it for decades hence the move from typical bipolar meds to meds like anti-seizure medications plus stuff like lithium isn't safe for women that are pregnant/breastfeeding

Mao
08-13-2007, 02:16 PM
yeah they've discovered some undesirable side-effects apparently from people that were on it for decades hence the move from typical bipolar meds to meds like anti-seizure medications plus stuff like lithium isn't safe for women that are pregnant/breastfeeding

Lithium isn't perfect by any means - patients need to be monitored at regular intervals for blood toxicity. In terms of efficaciousness, however, lithium is the best drug on the market at the moment. Here, they use antipsychotics in the short term for pg women. Anti seizure meds have had mixed results.

harrisonsdream
08-13-2007, 02:17 PM
Lithium isn't perfect by any means - patients need to be monitored at regular intervals for blood toxicity. In terms of efficaciousness, however, lithium is the best drug on the market at the moment. Here, they use antipsychotics in the short term for pg women. Anti seizure meds have had mixed results.

oh i know lithium is like all drugs. lamictal is the safest in the class it's in for pregnant/nursing mothers.

Mao
08-13-2007, 02:17 PM
Apologies for thread-jacking :oops

I hope everything works out, hun :hugs

Green~Mammy
08-13-2007, 05:22 PM
yeah they've discovered some undesirable side-effects apparently from people that were on it for decades hence the move from typical bipolar meds to meds like anti-seizure medications plus stuff like lithium isn't safe for women that are pregnant/breastfeeding

Wrong:
Lithium is safe for pregnancy but NOT safe for breastfeeding

Depakote is NOT safe for pregnancy but is safe for breastfeeding

Abilify is too new so not safe for pregnancy OR breastfeeding

Ask your DR to look it up they have a "blue" book for meds & can tell you what is approved for pregnancy & breastfeeding. Depakote has been proven to cause sever abnormalities in developing fetuses. I was told to be VERY careful to not become pregnant while taking it. It effects how the fetuses brain develops.

I talked it over with both my physician, the kids pediatrician, my OB/GYN, my therapist, & the DR on call when I gave birth and was assured Depakote is safe for nursing.

Lamictal is too new I don't want to try anything that has not been used long term such as that and Abilify.

Sorry for jacking the thread.

harrisonsdream
08-13-2007, 05:36 PM
Wrong:
Lithium is safe for pregnancy but NOT safe for breastfeeding

Depakote is NOT safe for pregnancy but is safe for breastfeeding

Abilify is too new so not safe for pregnancy OR breastfeeding

Ask your DR to look it up they have a "blue" book for meds & can tell you what is approved for pregnancy & breastfeeding. Depakote has been proven to cause sever abnormalities in developing fetuses. I was told to be VERY careful to not become pregnant while taking it. It effects how the fetuses brain develops.

I talked it over with both my physician, the kids pediatrician, my OB/GYN, my therapist, & the DR on call when I gave birth and was assured Depakote is safe for nursing.

Lamictal is too new I don't want to try anything that has not been used long term such as that and Abilify.

Sorry for jacking the thread.

look i was going by what I was told by people TRAINED in the field. sorry if you have conflicting information.

MySoldiersWifey
08-13-2007, 05:50 PM
I'm sorry this is going on right now. The best advice I can give you is to be there for him. Send him care packages, cards when he least expects it, letters, emails. Encourage him to talk to a Chaplain. I hope that he can get some help after his appointment.

Green~Mammy
08-13-2007, 08:25 PM
look i was going by what I was told by people TRAINED in the field. sorry if you have conflicting information.

you don't need to get snippy :dunno I was telling you what I had been told by DRs as well. I was trying to give you some info so that you know what is out there just incase the lamictal stops working. :banghead

harrisonsdream
08-13-2007, 08:36 PM
you don't need to get snippy :dunno I was telling you what I had been told by DRs as well. I was trying to give you some info so that you know what is out there just incase the lamictal stops working. :banghead

i was matching tone sorry if that offended you

Green~Mammy
08-13-2007, 08:38 PM
i was matching tone sorry if that offended you

then next time try asking me if I mean to sound like a snot because I assure you I was not saying it in the tone you read it. insert cheesy happy smile guy here.

end of TJ sorry.

harrisonsdream
08-13-2007, 08:39 PM
then next time try asking me if I mean to sound like a snot because I assure you I was not saying it in the tone you read it. insert cheesy happy smile guy here.

end of TJ sorry.

it's cool, sorry for getting snippy back at you

Green~Mammy
08-13-2007, 08:41 PM
its cool commence with the make out session, I think it was the wrong I put in it I was NAKing so I didn't feel like writing out that it was incorrect that Depakote is unsafe for nursing. I take it I nurse and I am sorry for being a snot.

harrisonsdream
08-13-2007, 08:44 PM
it's kind of a moot point though since it's about her hubby not her though lol

Green~Mammy
08-13-2007, 08:46 PM
true