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Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 08:56 PM
Say your baby doesnt come out head first, will they deliever by c section?

harrisonsdream
08-18-2007, 08:56 PM
they prefer to do it by c-section i believe but they can deliever the baby vaginally when the baby is butt first.

Caimbrie
08-18-2007, 09:11 PM
If the baby is already coming out that way then they can deliver it. It's called "breach" If they know the baby is breach ahead of time they can try to flip it and if that doesn't work they typically schedule a c-section. Breach births can be very dangerous for the baby.

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:12 PM
If the baby is already coming out that way then they can deliver it. It's called "breach" If they know the baby is breach ahead of time they can try to flip it and if that doesn't work they typically schedule a c-section. Breach births can be very dangerous for the baby.

Do they leave that up to the patient or just do things..I think that should be a issue the person decides.

harrisonsdream
08-18-2007, 09:13 PM
If the baby is already coming out that way then they can deliver it. It's called "breach" If they know the baby is breach ahead of time they can try to flip it and if that doesn't work they typically schedule a c-section. Breach births can be very dangerous for the baby.

said better than me :) thanks

*Crystal*
08-18-2007, 09:16 PM
My baby is breech and we are talking about a C-section. Ive also had a C-section before though. We think its better for me to have another C-section with a breech baby than to try to turn the baby because the pressure of turning it can cause me to rupture!

Caimbrie
08-18-2007, 09:16 PM
Do they leave that up to the patient or just do things..I think that should be a issue the person decides.

Well if the baby is breach and does not flip on thier own and they also don't flip with manual help (if your baby is breach you can always ask them to try to flip him/her manually, it's painful but worth it if it works. They will try as long as there arent other issues that will make it too risky).. you can't really insist on having a vaginal birth because breach is very dangerous. It can cut off the oxygen to the baby and cause them to be severely handicapped or die. There are breach births that happen by accident that do turn out ok but not many doctors will let a patient CHOOSE to have a breach birth because it's far more dangerous to the baby and the mother than it's worth.

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:18 PM
thanks ladies!

Caimbrie
08-18-2007, 09:19 PM
Babies can be breach right up until labor and then suddenly flip btw. I've known woman who have scheduled sections because the baby was breach and the day before the baby flips all of the sudden.

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:27 PM
I just want to understand everything now...I do not care for my OB staff at this point and I dont want them feeding me crap.

harrisonsdream
08-18-2007, 09:28 PM
what's wrong with your OB staff?

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:29 PM
its a wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy long story, but they pissed off my husband, so the next class should be super fun for them.

harrisonsdream
08-18-2007, 09:30 PM
ahh okay, if you want to pm me or we can get some coffee or something this upcoming week and you can vent it all out to me if you care to :) :hugs

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:31 PM
That would be cool!

I am just counting down the days until I am tricare free!

Caimbrie
08-18-2007, 09:32 PM
Well if your baby is breach when you are in labor they arent lieing when they say you need a c-section.

harrisonsdream
08-18-2007, 09:32 PM
i definitely don't mind tricare, there is worse insurance. just let me know when. monday, wednesday and saturday i've got class.

MichelleB
08-18-2007, 09:35 PM
:yes to everything Sarah said. If the baby is breach it is dangerous and a c-section is probably best. Giving birth is one of those experiences where you can't have complete control. Things might happen that require you to go with the flow and trust your doctors. NOW is the time to find a different one if you aren't comfortable with them.

Tricare isn't BAD per say. They don't run the doctor's offices or hospitals.

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:37 PM
You are right, I should just say I have the worst luck with the medical people within the system!

I just didnt want them to tell me its ok to do it the vaginal way.

Caimbrie
08-18-2007, 09:40 PM
You are right, I should just say I have the worst luck with the medical people within the system!

I just didnt want them to tell me its ok to do it the vaginal way.


Oh I definitely don't think they will :teehee It's a real pain in the ass for them to deliver a breach baby :lol

Caimbrie
08-18-2007, 09:42 PM
:yes to everything Sarah said. If the baby is breach it is dangerous and a c-section is probably best. Giving birth is one of those experiences where you can't have complete control. Things might happen that require you to go with the flow and trust your doctors. NOW is the time to find a different one if you aren't comfortable with them.

Tricare isn't BAD per say. They don't run the doctor's offices or hospitals.

:yes

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:43 PM
So can i just have the baby now LOL

Caimbrie
08-18-2007, 09:45 PM
:lol If only it were that easy.. you really wouldn't want to have the baby now thoigh :P They'd be a little too premature and need to stay in the hospital.

Jennygirl
08-18-2007, 09:47 PM
My husband keeps telling me the timer isnt up yet LOL I was like its NOT A TURKEY!

fridayheather
08-19-2007, 12:10 AM
Lydia was transverse breech and they attempted to turn her but she definitely would NOT GO! (Her head was lodged in between the two sections of my rib cage). I was scheduled for a c-section but my bp had different ideas and I had her via emergency c-section 5 days earlier than planned.

Green~Mammy
08-19-2007, 12:46 AM
For a breech baby it depends on what type of breech. Some breech positions can be safely delivered vaginally others are best if it is a c/s. A breech baby can always flip at the last minute you still have some time left to try and get the baby to flip on it's own.

Here is some info on breech for you:
Reprinted with permission from American Pregnancy Association

Usually a few weeks before birth, most babies will move into delivery position, with their head moving near the birth canal. If this does not happen, the baby's buttocks and/or feet, will be in place to be delivered first. This is called a breech presentation. Breech births occur in about 1 of 25 full-term births.

What are the different types of breech presentations?

Frank breech: The fetus's buttocks are aimed toward the birth canal and the legs stick straight up in front of the body. The feet are near the head.
Complete breech: The buttocks are down, with the legs folded at the knees and the feet near the buttocks.
Footling breech: One or both of the fetus's feet are pointing down and will come out first.

What causes a breech presentation?
The causes of breech presentations are not fully known. However, a breech birth is more common when women have:
Had more than one pregnancy
Had more than one fetus in the uterus
Had a premature delivery
A uterus that has too much or too little amniotic fluid
An abnormal shaped uterus or a uterus with abnormal growths, such as fibroids.
Placenta previa

How is a breech presentation diagnosed?
A few weeks prior to the due date, the doctor may place his/her hands on the mother's lower abdomen to locate the baby's head, back, and buttocks. If the doctor thinks the baby is in a breech position, an ultrasound may be used to confirm. Special X-rays can also determine the baby's position, and measure the pelvis to determine if a vaginal delivery of a breech baby may be attempted.

Can a breech presentation mean something is wrong?
Most breech babies are born healthy. However, they do have a higher risk for certain problems than babies born head first. Birth defects are slightly more common in breech babies. A birth defect may be the reason they have not moved into the right position before birth.

Can a breech presentation be changed?
The best time to try to turn a breech baby is between 32-37 weeks of pregnancy. There are many different types of methods to use and all have different levels of success. Talk with your health care provider on which options they feel would be best for you to try.

Medical Techniques

External Version
External version is a non-surgical method in which a doctor can help move the baby within the uterus. A medication to help relax the uterus might be given as well as an ultrasound exam, to better check the position of the baby, the location of the placenta, and the amount of amniotic fluid in the uterus. Gentle pushing on the lower abdomen can turn the baby into the head-down position. Throughout the external version, the baby's heartbeat will be checked closely so that if any problems should occur, the doctor will stop turning immediately. Most attempts at external version are successful; however as the due date gets closer this procedure is more difficult.

Chiropractic Care
The late Larry Webster, D.C., of the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association, developed a technique which enabled chiropractors to release stress on the pregnant woman's pelvis and cause relaxation to the uterus and surrounding ligaments. The relaxed uterus would make it easier for a breech baby to turn naturally. The technique is known as the Webster Breech Technique.

The Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics reported in the July/August 2002 issue that 82% of doctors using the Webster Technique reported success. Further, the results from the study suggest that it may be beneficial to perform the Webster Technique in the 8th month of pregnancy.

Natural Techniques
The following two techniques often suggested by Physical Therapist, Penny Simkin, are things you can try at home for free, with no risks involved.

The Breech Tilt
Raise hips 12' or 30cm off the floor using large, solid pillows three times daily for 10-15 minutes each time. This is best done on an empty stomach,and at a time when your baby is active. Concentrate on your baby and not tensing your body, especially in the abdomen area.

Using Music
We know that babies can hear sounds outside the womb, so many women have used music or taped recordings of their voice to try to get their baby to move towards the "noise!" Headphones placed on the lower part of your abdomen, playing either music or your voice, has encouraged babies to move towards the sounds and out of the breech position.

There are also homeopathic remedies that women have found to very successful in breech situations. Contact your local holistic practitioner about the use of Moxibustion or Pulsatilla in turning breech babies naturally.

Vaginal delivery versus cesarean for breech birth?
Sometimes doctors do not know if a vaginal delivery is possible for a breech birth until a woman is in labor. However, the following are necessary factors in order for a vaginal birth to be attempted:
The baby is full-term and in the frank breech presentation.
The baby does not show signs of distress as its heart rate is closely monitered.
The process of labor is smooth and steady; the cervix is widening and the baby is moving down.
The doctor estimates that the baby is not too big or the mother's pelvis too narrow for the baby to pass safely through the birth canal.
Anesthesia is available and a cesarean delivery can be performed on short notice.

What are the risks and complications of a vaginal delivery?
In a breech birth, the baby's head is the last part to emerge, and it may be harder to ease it through the birth canal. Sometimes forceps are used to guide the baby's head out. Another potential problem is cord prolapse in which the umbilical cord can get squeezed as the baby moves toward the birth canal, slowing the baby's supply of oxygen and blood.

If a vaginal delivery is attempted, electronic fetal monitoring will be used to monitor the baby's heartbeat throughout labor. A cesarean delivery may be considered if there are any signs that the baby may be in distress.

When is a cesarean delivery used with a breech presentation?
Breech babies who are premature are often delivered by cesarean birth. Premature babies are small and fragile, and because the head is relatively larger, their bodies don't stretch the cervix as wide as full-term babies do during birth. This means that there may be less room for the head to emerge.

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