I am not looking for this to be a debate but more as my vent... I just know how these things can turn into debates so I think I am doing the right thing by putting this here.

Anyhow. Last night, dh and I were watching the Day show.. ? ya know, with Jon Stewart. Afterwards South park came on and neither one of us turned it so we just watched. Well, it really made me angry with the way that they were cursing. I mean, they would bleep out "f***" but not GD. Which took me back to thinking, "why is it ok that people say GD but it's not ok to learn the truth about God or for one to use prayer, etc" It just made me really angry and then I thought "well, no wonder things are the way they are"... you have a nation that has those who believe and worship and you have those that don't worship. (and it's not those that I am talking about either) It's those that don't believe yet put up a fight to make it so the people who do or want to teach others can't openly. Yet, here they are swearing and using other religions or beliefs as they see fit. I don't know if I am making any sense.. but as I said it was just my opinion.. and I guess I can't make much sense of something that doesn't make sense to me.. so enough of my rambling... :dunno

God is not profane, and a large amount of people do not care if the word is used in vain.

I think it would be a bit ridiculous to expect censorship based on religion on a comedy program.

I wouldn't expect it.. but my problem with it was that the word f*** was bad enough to be bleeped out, but GD wasn't... yet in certain places we are not suppose to pray or use "God" or anything like that..Yet we are suppose to be ok with hearing it in a negative tone...

I dunno.. I hate hearing GD and don't say it either..

I dunno.. I hate hearing GD and don't say it either..

I am the same way.. Ya know.. it's not that I think people shouldn't say it.. if that is how they feel or if they don't worship God then of course they aren't going to think the same way I do..

My problem is just as I said before.. (above)

I do agree with you. It is kindve ridiculous that f*** can be censored but GD cant be. I mean after all children do watch those shows. Sometimes I think about since you can't make racial remarks because it is a hate crime why can u make religious remarks because they are just as offending to some people why shouldnt they be a hate crime too! Everyone knows it will never change though which sucks and swearing on t.v. is just getting worse

I think they do it that way because "damn" is a less offensive word than most other profanities. It's like "ass". They're allowed to be said on TV without bleeping. In the past they've had other meanings and they weren't always profane. Now you throw God, NOT a profanity, in front of damn and I can see their logic. And we're talking about South Park, here. This show took a count of how many times they could use the word SHIT in their show, once shit had become a word they could use on television without it being bleeped out after a certain hour in the night.

GD is profane in some situations but not others. that's why it's edited out of movies on tv but it's okay for things like south park. that's stupid

South Park is shown after a certain time.

I personally don't think God is EVER "profane" and cannot honestly remember a time that I have seen it edited out.

I really hate censorship ESPECIALLY of something like God.

ash i'll agree with you that the censorship of the word God in general is ridiculous but the phrase Goddamn or God damnit or anything else is bad in my eyes.

I guess I just disagree, I do not think it is that bad and needs to be censored regardless of damn following it.

Sounds dumb.. but GD is THE most offensive curse word out there to me IMO.. :dunno

Sounds dumb.. but GD is THE most offensive curse word out there to me IMO.. :dunno

I agree.
Sometimes I slip and say GD-it. And I feel so guilty after I do. We try very hard to not say it.

Heres my opinion on it... I attend church every Sunday, and im a born again christian.. So GD irks me to no end. BUT, I know shows like Southpark are going to not censor these things out. I know full well that if I choose to watch these shows, im risking hearing negativity.

I dont agree with it, but I also dont complain about it. You make the choice on what shows your going to watch, and its simple.. If you dont like what you hear, change the channel.

In my house, whole different story.. If you are a guest, or live with me, please dont use those words under my roof.

Its a matter of censoring what you choose to hear and watch. They never proclaimed Southpark wasnt going to have foul language, and the content is in more ways than one questionable. Its time slot is later at night, and everyone pretty much knows its got "bad" taste as far as where it takes its comedy to.

JMO

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I dont agree with it, but I also dont complain about it. You make the choice on what shows your going to watch, and its simple.. If you dont like what you hear, change the channel.



Its a matter of censoring what you choose to hear and watch. They never proclaimed Southpark wasnt going to have foul language, and the content is in more ways than one questionable. Its time slot is later at night, and everyone pretty much knows its got "bad" taste as far as where it takes its comedy to.



Gonna agree with this. South park is an adult oriented show that someone chooses to watch. Its no different then choosing a r rated movie over a pg movie. Its about choice. South park was MADE to offend. It really was. I myself cannot stand the show so I choose to not watch it. And then I dont get offended.

I myself am not religious. ANd yes I do say the words tho I do it alot less because of my kids. I dont want my kids to swear.

Its about choice. Choose to not allow the words or programming in your household. ;)

Heres my opinion on it... I attend church every Sunday, and im a born again christian.. So GD irks me to no end. BUT, I know shows like Southpark are going to not censor these things out. I know full well that if I choose to watch these shows, im risking hearing negativity.

I dont agree with it, but I also dont complain about it. You make the choice on what shows your going to watch, and its simple.. If you dont like what you hear, change the channel.

In my house, whole different story.. If you are a guest, or live with me, please dont use those words under my roof.

Its a matter of censoring what you choose to hear and watch. They never proclaimed Southpark wasnt going to have foul language, and the content is in more ways than one questionable. Its time slot is later at night, and everyone pretty much knows its got "bad" taste as far as where it takes its comedy to.

JMO

I agree with this.

I think it would be a travesty to ban any word pertaining to a religion - it's a slippery slope.

I understand. I HATE people to say GD and i dont say it at all. My hubby even warns his friends that he brings around me. I will slap the back of a head if i hear it:giggle, but I do know that it is gonna be in movies or on tv, but if they bleep out once cuss word, they should bleep them all. Thats like that one song... by painc at the disko "i write tradgities not" i cant remember the name of the song but on the radio they bleep out shit and fuck and dont bleep out the GD. That pisses me off because it is public radio and chidren listen to the radio. I just think it is wrong. anyway....

Heres my opinion on it... I attend church every Sunday, and im a born again christian.. So GD irks me to no end. BUT, I know shows like Southpark are going to not censor these things out. I know full well that if I choose to watch these shows, im risking hearing negativity.

I dont agree with it, but I also dont complain about it. You make the choice on what shows your going to watch, and its simple.. If you dont like what you hear, change the channel.

In my house, whole different story.. If you are a guest, or live with me, please dont use those words under my roof.

Its a matter of censoring what you choose to hear and watch. They never proclaimed Southpark wasnt going to have foul language, and the content is in more ways than one questionable. Its time slot is later at night, and everyone pretty much knows its got "bad" taste as far as where it takes its comedy to.

JMO

well said

well said
Thanks ;)

Thats like that one song... by painc at the disko "i write tradgities not" i cant remember the name of the song but on the radio they bleep out shit and fuck and dont bleep out the GD. That pisses me off because it is public radio and chidren listen to the radio. I just think it is wrong. anyway....

I downloaded that song, and the one i downloaded wasn't bleeped.. so I dind't listen to it anymore LOL

Just to make it clear.. my fight is not with southpark or any rated R movie with cursing.. and I don't think God itself should be edited out but like someone else said when damn follows.. that is not just a phrase but one that many use as to curse... from what I have heard...

My fight as I stated is just with the fact that the words themselves are not bleeped out when others are and that is the worst of all.. I do watch movies where it is used and never complain about it... BUT in these circumstances it made me mad.

We know you didn't want a fight! I get where you're coming from, sometimes it just feels better saying it.. LOL :yes

Just to make it clear.. my fight is not with southpark or any rated R movie with cursing.. and I don't think God itself should be edited out but like someone else said when damn follows.. that is not just a phrase but one that many use as to curse... from what I have heard...

My fight as I stated is just with the fact that the words themselves are not bleeped out when others are and that is the worst of all.. I do watch movies where it is used and never complain about it... BUT in these circumstances it made me mad.
Ok, but you know when you start watching it that it could possibly have profanity.. They give quite the warning. So, I guess what I dont understand is why you would choose to watch such a show if you KNOW theres going to be cursing and questionable content.

I would just change the channel if I didnt want to hear it. Southpark and any other show like that is rated "M". This means there may be bad language or crude comedy, etc.

Just to make it clear.. my fight is not with southpark or any rated R movie with cursing.. and I don't think God itself should be edited out but like someone else said when damn follows.. that is not just a phrase but one that many use as to curse... from what I have heard...

My fight as I stated is just with the fact that the words themselves are not bleeped out when others are and that is the worst of all.. I do watch movies where it is used and never complain about it... BUT in these circumstances it made me mad.

I understand the point you're making. It's hard to please everyone though - if 'God' is censored, even as a curse word, it would cause outrage with people who think that censorship of any religious word is wrong. It's a case of damned if you do... :dunno

Im not arguing with you AT ALL. I actually agree that I dislike the use of the word, just dont really understand why one would choose to watch something that upset them :confuzzle

I used to watch South park when I was a teenager, but I don't watch it anymore..

first of all i don't think SouthPark is a kid's cartoon. It is an adult comedy show, and kids should not watch it unless they are older and it seems fit. I definitely see what you are saying and understand why it would upset you, but me coming from an immediate family that is spiritual and not religious, it does not offend me. I do get offended when people try to teach what they believe it the truth about God through every day relations because if I want to learn I will ask or teach myself. WHereas you (i think anyway lol) may feel it is the nations job to teach/preach the Lord. SO i guess it's a double edged blade, because you are entitled to your freedom of religion/faith but other people are entitled to theirs as well, which may or may not be the same as yours, and not feel like they have to "obey the rules" (sorry, that was worded SO wrong, but I couldnt think of any other way to put it) of your faith. KWIM? I'm sorry you have to hear that crap on tv, but at least dont take it personally; southpark pokes fun/swears/opresses all different ethnicities, faiths, agegroups, cultures, everything. SOme find it offensive, i find it humorous simply because I try to think of the universal message behind the dirty humor. WOW sorry if this got off topic and rambled on too long, i have a habit of reading the first post then replying directly to the poster lol!! anyway, i hope none of that offended, if it did, then, darn, i stink at posting peaceful messages and i'm sorry lol :goodvibes

Im not arguing with you AT ALL. I actually agree that I dislike the use of the word, just dont really understand why one would choose to watch something that upset them :confuzzle

oh I know.. I don't take debating or "disagreeing" as arguing hehe... in the original post I said..

I mean, they would bleep out "f***" but not GD. Which took me back to thinking, "why is it ok that people say GD but it's not ok to learn the truth about God or for one to use prayer, etc" It just made me really angry and then I thought "well, no wonder things are the way they are"... you have a nation that has those who believe and worship and you have those that don't worship. (and it's not those that I am talking about either) It's those that don't believe yet put up a fight to make it so the people who do or want to teach others can't openly. Yet, here they are swearing and using other religions or beliefs as they see fit. I don't know if I am making any sense

I have no problem with people cursing or using words as they believe or see fit... what I was saying was that I have a problem with the way people are so quick to say "respect my religion" take down the ten commandments, take the pledge out of schools, etc, etc yet they have no respect for those who do worship to say lets bleep this out.. I mean, sure no one who does worship will be watching southpark lol.. but there are other shows that one may watch and may hear that or something else ya know... an adult may not care because they have their beliefs and such but children are impressionable...

again, I can see the point of others who don't worship though.. I mean, if you (speaking in general) don't believe then how can that word or phrase mean something bad or offending religion when you don't even call yourself christian or religious...

So, yes, I see the where others may take it.. but I think just as a form of respect to other religions not to do this or that or say this or that it should be vice versa.... as someone else said though, this will always be...

PS I wouldn't expect a show like southpark or a R rated movie or even something like adult swim to NOT use such words.. just speaking a more indebt opinion of other events that SP sparked the "fire" which made me think of all of this....

first of all i don't think SouthPark is a kid's cartoon. It is an adult comedy show, and kids should not watch it unless they are older and it seems fit. I definitely see what you are saying and understand why it would upset you, but me coming from an immediate family that is spiritual and not religious, it does not offend me. I do get offended when people try to teach what they believe it the truth about God through every day relations because if I want to learn I will ask or teach myself. WHereas you (i think anyway lol) may feel it is the nations job to teach/preach the Lord. SO i guess it's a double edged blade, because you are entitled to your freedom of religion/faith but other people are entitled to theirs as well, which may or may not be the same as yours, and not feel like they have to "obey the rules" (sorry, that was worded SO wrong, but I couldnt think of any other way to put it) of your faith. KWIM? I'm sorry you have to hear that crap on tv, but at least dont take it personally; southpark pokes fun/swears/opresses all different ethnicities, faiths, agegroups, cultures, everything. SOme find it offensive, i find it humorous simply because I try to think of the universal message behind the dirty humor. WOW sorry if this got off topic and rambled on too long, i have a habit of reading the first post then replying directly to the poster lol!! anyway, i hope none of that offended, if it did, then, darn, i stink at posting peaceful messages and i'm sorry lol :goodvibes


No, that isn't my belief that the nation should preach/teach it...

you are right, it is a double edged blade lol.. (refer to my post about about that hehe)

and ya, I do the same thing with replying to the OP first hehe...

I agree with Tiff!

Just to make it clear.. my fight is not with southpark or any rated R movie with cursing.. and I don't think God itself should be edited out but like someone else said when damn follows.. that is not just a phrase but one that many use as to curse... from what I have heard...

My fight as I stated is just with the fact that the words themselves are not bleeped out when others are and that is the worst of all.. I do watch movies where it is used and never complain about it... BUT in these circumstances it made me mad.

But here is the thing. What is offending to one but not be to another... The word ass is no longer bleeped out. There are some others too. So although some may feel this is a real bad cuss word and should be ranked up there, others do not. They feel it is along the lines as saying ass or bitch. So its gonna boil down to not watching it if it offends

Sounds dumb.. but GD is THE most offensive curse word out there to me IMO.. :dunno

Amen Tina. I agree.

oh I know.. I don't take debating or "disagreeing" as arguing hehe... in the original post I said..

I mean, they would bleep out "f***" but not GD. Which took me back to thinking, "why is it ok that people say GD but it's not ok to learn the truth about God or for one to use prayer, etc" It just made me really angry and then I thought "well, no wonder things are the way they are"... you have a nation that has those who believe and worship and you have those that don't worship. (and it's not those that I am talking about either) It's those that don't believe yet put up a fight to make it so the people who do or want to teach others can't openly. Yet, here they are swearing and using other religions or beliefs as they see fit. I don't know if I am making any sense

I have no problem with people cursing or using words as they believe or see fit... what I was saying was that I have a problem with the way people are so quick to say "respect my religion" take down the ten commandments, take the pledge out of schools, etc, etc yet they have no respect for those who do worship to say lets bleep this out.. I mean, sure no one who does worship will be watching southpark lol.. but there are other shows that one may watch and may hear that or something else ya know... an adult may not care because they have their beliefs and such but children are impressionable...

again, I can see the point of others who don't worship though.. I mean, if you (speaking in general) don't believe then how can that word or phrase mean something bad or offending religion when you don't even call yourself christian or religious...

So, yes, I see the where others may take it.. but I think just as a form of respect to other religions not to do this or that or say this or that it should be vice versa.... as someone else said though, this will always be...

PS I wouldn't expect a show like southpark or a R rated movie or even something like adult swim to NOT use such words.. just speaking a more indebt opinion of other events that SP sparked the "fire" which made me think of all of this....
Children are impressionable, they shouldnt watch shows like Southpark. I see your point, and being a Christian, I agree to an extent. I just dont allow myself to watch shows or movies that will upset me.

Its all about choice, the things you watch, company you keep etc. It would be like going into a bar and saying "I hate being around drunks" Knowing full well its whats expected. You(not you personally) know that when watching a specific show on TV, you MAY get offended, so I just choose not to watch stuff that may or may not offend me or hit a personal spot with me.

oh and also like Tiff was saying we choose what we watch on TV or the movies and so if we dont like hearing certain words then we shouldnt be watching those shows. I dont think its a censorship issue either. we dont have any control over what the bleep out so it makes more sense to just not watch those shows that are known to have that kind of foul language in it.

Children are impressionable, they shouldnt watch shows like Southpark. I see your point, and being a Christian, I agree to an extent. I just dont allow myself to watch shows or movies that will upset me.

Its all about choice, the things you watch, company you keep etc. It would be like going into a bar and saying "I hate being around drunks" Knowing full well its whats expected. You(not you personally) know that when watching a specific show on TV, you MAY get offended, so I just choose not to watch stuff that may or may not offend me or hit a personal spot with me.

I agree

Gonna agree with this. South park is an adult oriented show that someone chooses to watch. Its no different then choosing a r rated movie over a pg movie. Its about choice. South park was MADE to offend. It really was. I myself cannot stand the show so I choose to not watch it. And then I dont get offended.

I myself am not religious. ANd yes I do say the words tho I do it alot less because of my kids. I dont want my kids to swear.

Its about choice. Choose to not allow the words or programming in your household. ;)


:tu I agree with this. I'm not religious either, but I also do my hardest not to say GD. I do use quite colorful language at times, but GD is something I try not to put in my vocabulary.

I totally agree with you , GD is very offensive!!!

I totally agree with you , GD is very offensive!!!

To you. Thats the thing. Whats offensive to one isnt to another kwim? It doesnt offend me if someone says it. Now if they say it in front of my kids I might get a little peeved but thats cuz I dont want my kids cussin at 3 years old. Thats just like ANY word. And I can name quite a few. Some might find it offensive and some might not. I have friends that call each other bitch. I for one am not fond of that. But thats me. They are and thats them

To you. Thats the thing. Whats offensive to one isnt to another kwim? It doesnt offend me if someone says it. Now if they say it in front of my kids I might get a little peeved but thats cuz I dont want my kids cussin at 3 years old. Thats just like ANY word. And I can name quite a few. Some might find it offensive and some might not. I have friends that call each other bitch. I for one am not fond of that. But thats me. They are and thats them

I am really glad that I posted this with an open mind.. because I definetely see what you are saying about this...

Totally coming in on the tailend...but anyhow - I don't like to hear it, and I don't say it - it's the one thing I absolutely just don't ever say :dunno I don't watch southpark - not because of the cursing, but because it's STUPID.

:giggle

South Park isn't a kids show. It's a show meant for adults, which is why it shows so late and usually has a TVMA rating. So, I don't think censoring out fuck but leaving in god damn is some sign to children that it is okay to curse god. It's not a children's show.

The creators of South Park are pretty anti-religion, anti-conservative, and anti-censorship and have made it VERY well known. Everyone has the right to express their opinions in this country, just like everyone has the right to turn the channel when they don't like what the person on TV is saying.

I think this comes down to a basic understanding of everyone's right to believe what they want to believe. It is not necessary to take away someone else's freedom of expression to preserve your own freedom of belief.