so who's hubby is now officially a chief as of yesterday????? the first pay incriment started yesterday so i was just curious who was going to be a chief before they get pinned :giggle

My DH is! One of the Master Chiefs messed with him this morning at PT. They asked who was already getting Chief's pay and Chris raised his hand along with some of the other guys. This Master Chief said well why are you out of uniform then? Chris replied, "I'm not sir. I'm in my PT uniform." :giggle He got him there! Chris said he just said, "Good answer!"!

DH is!

My husband won't be a "Real Chief" until September of next year, I guess. He was 115 out of 121 so he'll be the last increment, I'm sure.

My husband won't be a "Real Chief" until September of next year, I guess. He was 115 out of 121 so he'll be the last increment, I'm sure.

I count pinning day as the day they're "real Chiefs"... DH was officially an E7 yesterday (he even said it that way):wink

Congratulations to your hubbies and you all! :five

My husband won't be a "Real Chief" until September of next year, I guess. He was 115 out of 121 so he'll be the last increment, I'm sure.
we still have no idea what our increment will be either. :sigh I don't care, I just want a definitive answer.

we still have no idea what our increment will be either. :sigh I don't care, I just want a definitive answer.

According to the handbook thing I have, you're supposed to know your date of advancement within 6 weeks of results.. so hopefully you guys will know soon!

after all the initiation that they go through for this, I think it's absolutely absurd that they have to wait a year to get paid. I think Chiefs should be paid immediately following initiation.

after all the initiation that they go through for this, I think it's absolutely absurd that they have to wait a year to get paid. I think Chiefs should be paid immediately following initiation.

I totally agree.. we were kind of shocked that DH was 33 of 59 and still had Sept. 16th as his advancement date.. (his sponsor is still telling us we might have to wait on the pay.. I don't see why..)

Also I don't think it goes by seniority as on of the selectees only has about 9 years in but he is getting paid on the first increment he got picked early. :dunno wish they had clear concise ways of doing the pay.. and I agree with Brandi I think it should be immediate following initiation. makes it easier.

Also I don't think it goes by seniority as on of the selectees only has about 9 years in but he is getting paid on the first increment he got picked early. :dunno wish they had clear concise ways of doing the pay.. and I agree with Brandi I think it should be immediate following initiation. makes it easier.

Was the selectee one of the top ones for his group? Maybe with a small enough number for that rate, he was still able to be first increment.. some rates didn't advance many Chiefs this year at all..

Was the selectee one of the top ones for his group? Maybe with a small enough number for that rate, he was still able to be first increment.. some rates didn't advance many Chiefs this year at all..
I don't know for sure.. He was top for his group, but I remember someone posted saying they get paid by seniority, then by how they were picked. :dunno maybe I read wrong.. like I said I just want an answer, then i can feel better rather than being in limbo like when is he gonna get paid.

Was the selectee one of the top ones for his group? Maybe with a small enough number for that rate, he was still able to be first increment.. some rates didn't advance many Chiefs this year at all..

Thats what I was going to say. Dh has told me it goes by seniority, he has over 18 yrs and he is number 5 out of 9. Our date is to be determined

I don't know for sure.. He was top for his group, but I remember someone posted saying they get paid by seniority, then by how they were picked. :dunno maybe I read wrong.. like I said I just want an answer, then i can feel better rather than being in limbo like when is he gonna get paid.

They are paid by seniority.. Dh wasn't planning on being 1st increment either, since he hasn't hit 13 yrs. yet... It all depends on how many 19 yr and so on that they selected. ... The group he's going through all this stuff with has a 19 yr and an 8 or 9 year..so he's pretty much in the middle there.

Well, if it goes by the date on his profile sheet, his pay started yesterday.

My husband won't be a "Real Chief" until September of next year, I guess. He was 115 out of 121 so he'll be the last increment, I'm sure.

mine too :teehee he was 27 out of 28!! dh wont hit his 11 year mark next week :D

Well, if it goes by the date on his profile sheet, his pay started yesterday.

where can i find DH's profile sheet? i finally remembered his bupers/BOL password, but didn't find anything about when he'll start getting paid. he was 10 out of 32 selected and he's got 10.5 years in...

also, would the pay have been included in this past paycheck or in the october one? (we got a few hundred more than usual and i can't figure out why until the next LES comes out lol).

where can i find DH's profile sheet? i finally remembered his bupers/BOL password, but didn't find anything about when he'll start getting paid. he was 10 out of 32 selected and he's got 10.5 years in...

also, would the pay have been included in this past paycheck or in the october one? (we got a few hundred more than usual and i can't figure out why until the next LES comes out lol).

Mid month things like this always show up in the 1st of the next month's pay. So those who got advanced on the 16th should see it in the Oct. 1st check.

after all the initiation that they go through for this, I think it's absolutely absurd that they have to wait a year to get paid. I think Chiefs should be paid immediately following initiation.

I agree. I think the year wait is a bit much.......I talked to a friend that said it was longer than that for them one year.

I actually HATE how the Navy pays people due to advancement. No one else does it like that from what I understand.

We'll see the pay next summer......

Mid month things like this always show up in the 1st of the next month's pay. So those who got advanced on the 16th should see it in the Oct. 1st check.


thanks, that's what i thought, but a few people insisted it would be in this last deposit :screwy

I know nothing much about the Navy, just wanted to say congrats to all of you and your SO's :D

I know nothing much about the Navy, just wanted to say congrats to all of you and your SO's :D

Thanks Loretta!

after all the initiation that they go through for this, I think it's absolutely absurd that they have to wait a year to get paid. I think Chiefs should be paid immediately following initiation.

I agree. DH will start getting paid in mid -December. He explained it all to me the other night because I didn't understand why it didn't start right after initiation.

I know nothing much about the Navy, just wanted to say congrats to all of you and your SO's :D

Thank you!

I don't know for sure.. He was top for his group, but I remember someone posted saying they get paid by seniority, then by how they were picked. :dunno maybe I read wrong.. like I said I just want an answer, then i can feel better rather than being in limbo like when is he gonna get paid.

They are paid by seniority as a First Class. It works no different though then when they are advanced at lower ranks, in increments though the year. Lowerr ranks are done according to the score on the advancement exam however. Those who are getting pinned on Friday, but not paid are being frocked and getting to wear the rank and the priviledges of the rank, but not paid until thier increment comes.

They are paid by seniority as a First Class. It works no different though then when they are advanced at lower ranks, in increments though the year. Lowerr ranks are done according to the score on the advancement exam however. Those who are getting pinned on Friday, but not paid are being frocked and getting to wear the rank and the priviledges of the rank, but not paid until thier increment comes.

I understand that ;) but what I am saying is that making Chief is different than making any other enlisted rank... there is no 6 weeks of hell to go through with any other rank, no other rank is supposedly as big of a deal as this one. So, I think it's stupid that they treat the pay the same as any other advancement, when it's clearly not the same as just any other advancement. This is one rank that I think should get paid right away, following initiation.... for EVERYONE.

My husband won't be a "Real Chief" until September of next year, I guess. He was 115 out of 121 so he'll be the last increment, I'm sure.

:yes I think it was at least 6 months before DH was paid, maybe longer?

I understand that ;) but what I am saying is that making Chief is different than making any other enlisted rank... there is no 6 weeks of hell to go through with any other rank, no other rank is supposedly as big of a deal as this one. So, I think it's stupid that they treat the pay the same as any other advancement, when it's clearly not the same as just any other advancement. This is one rank that I think should get paid right away, following initiation.... for EVERYONE.

:agree

the Navy can be so special sometimes! :wink

I understand that ;) but what I am saying is that making Chief is different than making any other enlisted rank... there is no 6 weeks of hell to go through with any other rank, no other rank is supposedly as big of a deal as this one. So, I think it's stupid that they treat the pay the same as any other advancement, when it's clearly not the same as just any other advancement. This is one rank that I think should get paid right away, following initiation.... for EVERYONE.

I totally agree with you Brandi, as it is they keep stressing the fact on what it means to be a Chief, yet they are going to still treat you the way the treat junior enlisted, so how does making Chief make it any different than making it to 1st class??

I don't know the complete answer to that and while I agree that it would be nice for all CPO's to get paid at the same time, I believe it is done the way it is to maintain a senority system, per the Goatlocker. Where personnel in the same pay grade have the same amount of continuous service in that pay grade the one with the greater amount of continuous service in the next lower pay grade shall take precedence, regardless of rating held. i.e. Of all the CPO selectees each year, those who are paid before others have seniority over the others in that rating because they have a longer period of continuous service in that rank (E6) beore being made an E7. If there is a selectee who has 8 yrs in and a selectee who has 18 yrs in, wouldn't it make sense for that selectee who has 18 yrs in to technically have seniority to the person who has 8 yrs in?

it was explained to me that part of the reason they can't pay everyone at once is because they just don't have the budget to be shelling out the $300+ a month to every chief right away. i can understand that, but it still stinks. especially since the initiation causes us to have to shell out quite a bit of money.

oh, and i asked this earlier, but no one answered lol...does anyone know where i go to view DH's profile page to see if it says when he gets paid? i looked on BUPERS or BOL and it listed that he was selected for chief, but that was the only chief related info i could find. TIA

it was explained to me that part of the reason they can't pay everyone at once is because they just don't have the budget to be shelling out the $300+ a month to every chief right away. i can understand that, but it still stinks. especially since the initiation causes us to have to shell out quite a bit of money.

oh, and i asked this earlier, but no one answered lol...does anyone know where i go to view DH's profile page to see if it says when he gets paid? i looked on BUPERS or BOL and it listed that he was selected for chief, but that was the only chief related info i could find. TIA

We found the link through the advancement page. Where you initially found the results. I haven't had my coffee this morning, and I can't remember off hand what the site was. :tired

We found the link through the advancement page. Where you initially found the results. I haven't had my coffee this morning, and I can't remember off hand what the site was. :tired

lol, i never officially saw the results on those sites since i couldn't remember DH's password back then. squadron called me to tell me. there was some little blurb about how they didn't have any other advancement info for him so maybe they still don't know when he'll get paid. :dunno

lol, i never officially saw the results on those sites since i couldn't remember DH's password back then. squadron called me to tell me. there was some little blurb about how they didn't have any other advancement info for him so maybe they still don't know when he'll get paid. :dunno

There's a thread about profile sheets.. someone started it when the sept. advancement dates came up.. I'm going hunting for it now.. coffee in hand.. :hehe

Here's the link :http://www.npc.navy.mil/Boards/ActiveDutyEnlisted/CPO+Selection+Boards.htm

And here's the thread: http://militarysos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90658

I don't know the complete answer to that and while I agree that it would be nice for all CPO's to get paid at the same time, I believe it is done the way it is to maintain a senority system, per the Goatlocker. Where personnel in the same pay grade have the same amount of continuous service in that pay grade the one with the greater amount of continuous service in the next lower pay grade shall take precedence, regardless of rating held. i.e. Of all the CPO selectees each year, those who are paid before others have seniority over the others in that rating because they have a longer period of continuous service in that rank (E6) beore being made an E7. If there is a selectee who has 8 yrs in and a selectee who has 18 yrs in, wouldn't it make sense for that selectee who has 18 yrs in to technically have seniority to the person who has 8 yrs in?


I understand what you're saying but wouldn't it also then make sense for someone who busted their ass doing everything they can to make rank early to get paid more at least as much as someone who maybe didn't ever study or didn't really care that much about making it? I'm not saying all E6's with 15+ years in are shit bags, because believe me, I KNOW some rates just do not advance... ET's were one of them for a while that seemed like no one was really able to advance and I know that there are some rates that are at a pretty much stand still. But I'm saying that you could look at it from both sides. Just because someone who has been in for 16 years and is just making chief has been in longer, that does NOT make them necessarily "senior" or more deserving of more pay. You could have a shit bag 16 or 17 year selectee who just twiddled his thumbs and didn't contribute much to the Navy, then have a super stand up 9 or 10 year selectee who busted his ass to get every qual and contributed more than his fair share. So,the seniority thing doesn't really stand up in this argument for me. It kind of frustrates me that some of the extremely motivated sailors who happen to be less "senior" (in terms of time in service) are somewhat penalized for it with things like chief's pay and being put into the "Early candidate" bracket when they go up for board.

Here's the link :http://www.npc.navy.mil/Boards/ActiveDutyEnlisted/CPO+Selection+Boards.htm

And here's the thread: http://militarysos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90658

thanks! unfortunately, i have no clue what his NKO username or password are. guess i'll just keep waiting

thanks! unfortunately, i have no clue what his NKO username or password are. guess i'll just keep waiting

I don't know his either (I don't really want to know) Fortunately he was home and we looked it up together.. we both about died when we saw Sept. 16th.

Navy advancement center, its the same log in as his NKO and that has his profile sheet. https://www.advancement.cnet.navy.mil/

it was explained to me that part of the reason they can't pay everyone at once is because they just don't have the budget to be shelling out the $300+ a month to every chief right away.
which i think is crap since fiscal year starts in October. so that is just some bs reason ( :jerkit) that they like to say.

where can i find DH's profile sheet? i finally remembered his bupers/BOL password, but didn't find anything about when he'll start getting paid. he was 10 out of 32 selected and he's got 10.5 years in...

also, would the pay have been included in this past paycheck or in the october one? (we got a few hundred more than usual and i can't figure out why until the next LES comes out lol).

:thinking
I am actually pretty positive that we started getting DHs chief pay in our September 15th check the year he made it, not October. But your clothing allowance will come the 1st of October.

I understand what you're saying but wouldn't it also then make sense for someone who busted their ass doing everything they can to make rank early to get paid more at least as much as someone who maybe didn't ever study or didn't really care that much about making it? I'm not saying all E6's with 15+ years in are shit bags, because believe me, I KNOW some rates just do not advance... ET's were one of them for a while that seemed like no one was really able to advance and I know that there are some rates that are at a pretty much stand still. But I'm saying that you could look at it from both sides. Just because someone who has been in for 16 years and is just making chief has been in longer, that does NOT make them necessarily "senior" or more deserving of more pay. You could have a shit bag 16 or 17 year selectee who just twiddled his thumbs and didn't contribute much to the Navy, then have a super stand up 9 or 10 year selectee who busted his ass to get every qual and contributed more than his fair share. So,the seniority thing doesn't really stand up in this argument for me. It kind of frustrates me that some of the extremely motivated sailors who happen to be less "senior" (in terms of time in service) are somewhat penalized for it with things like chief's pay and being put into the "Early candidate" bracket when they go up for board.


This was kind of my thought with my DH. He went from a 2nd to Chief in less than 5 years. He was SOY for his ship, SOY for PNW, two Navy Commendation Medals, a NAM, ranked #1 & #2 sailor two consecutive years, not to mention all the collateral duties, quals, all within two years prior to going up for Chief his official first time. He actually went up for it early but did not make it. He got paid about 8 months later because of the seniority thing. There is something to be said for the experience and knowledge that more years in service provide and possibly more years in a particular rank but I think once they are chosen for Chief they should rank them from that point based on their packages and decide from this who should get paid first if they cannot pay them all at the same time.

I understand what you're saying but wouldn't it also then make sense for someone who busted their ass doing everything they can to make rank early to get paid more at least as much as someone who maybe didn't ever study or didn't really care that much about making it? I'm not saying all E6's with 15+ years in are shit bags, because believe me, I KNOW some rates just do not advance... ET's were one of them for a while that seemed like no one was really able to advance and I know that there are some rates that are at a pretty much stand still. But I'm saying that you could look at it from both sides. Just because someone who has been in for 16 years and is just making chief has been in longer, that does NOT make them necessarily "senior" or more deserving of more pay. You could have a shit bag 16 or 17 year selectee who just twiddled his thumbs and didn't contribute much to the Navy, then have a super stand up 9 or 10 year selectee who busted his ass to get every qual and contributed more than his fair share. So,the seniority thing doesn't really stand up in this argument for me. It kind of frustrates me that some of the extremely motivated sailors who happen to be less "senior" (in terms of time in service) are somewhat penalized for it with things like chief's pay and being put into the "Early candidate" bracket when they go up for board.

Oh, I do understand your point of view. My husband was one of these 18 yr guys that picked up CPO because his rate just did not advance well for him over the years and he busted his ass every year despite that. Then there was a 7 yr guy in his shop who barely lifted a finger and made it and has been one of the crappiest examples of a CPO in the past year. It is guys like that who make you shake you head and wonder why or what was the board thinking. But, I digress.....that is the Navy for you and it is unlikely to change any time soon.

okay, DH said to just reset his NKO passwords and stuff so i FINALLY managed to see his profile sheet and it said "adv 16 sept 2007" :D

of course, this means i'm going to have to cough up some serious dough to the NEX in a week or two lol.